Turbogarden (Ebb & Flow) vs. Econojet(not 2x2) vs. Waterfarm

[turbo14]

By the way so I don't look stupid... I'm assuming 14 in Turbo14 stands for the fact that the Turbogarden is a 14 site system.Mom school paid for something. I do have a brain! LMFAO!

Right you are, Danielson--

I have my turbo's ebb and flow timer for every 3 hours they are watered for 15 minutes, pumping at 1400ppm at 5th week of flower with no nute burn. Good nute program+hydro+shit load of oxygen=

turbo

 

[Craven_au]

You could easily and cheaply put a recirculation kit on the water farm setup and fix the nute mix and stagnation issues. I hate having to poke the white junk out of the drip tubes on the water farms, I used to have take the whole ring and tube apart until I discovered you can just chase a wire down the air tube and clear the obstruction.

I was just thinking the same thing about the Turbogarden recirculation would make life a lot ezyer.U would need a mother to clone from.

And yes u were a great help with the DM advice thank u very much i did drop the ppm by 400 and will give give them a good flush soon.

 

[Bulldog11]

The problem with the lid is not that big of a deal. I have bought 1" foam panels that home depot sell and use that as a lid.($10.00) I have made it so it hangs over the top, or I have cut them down to fit so no drips come out. Another solution to this problem is going to TAP Plastics and have them cut you a piece of black plastic to fit. This works well but costs about 60$. After messing with a couple of different lids, I now prefer to buy the lid that comes with the table. They just work better, but it is not hard to make a lid that works.

 

[Craven_au]

I just wanted u guys to see the response I finally got from someone over at a different website. I wonder why there is SO much arguing on those sites.... Ready.....

Originally Posted byxxxxxxxx
You can easilly make any of those systems for a fraction of the price just by going to lowes. Thats why no one is giving input, we don't waste money on overpriced plastic buckets and fittings.


I love how he claims no one is "helping" me because apparently I'm wasting HIS/THEIR money I guess for him to be SOOOO f@#$in concerned on wasted money. How rude is that post??? Or am I the A-hole?

That guy from the other site is a Total tool. as far as i can tell u r no a-hole.

 

[Craven_au]

Just got given this post though u mite like to see it. one sick ebb n flow
http://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?t=108395

 

[311]

Right you are, Danielson--

I have my turbo's ebb and flow timer for every 3 hours they are watered for 15 minutes, pumping at 1400ppm at 5th week of flower with no nute burn. Good nute program+hydro+shit load of oxygen=

turbo

WOOOAAAAAAAA(in my best karate voice)! LMAO! What nutes/supplements are u using?

 

[311]

I was just thinking the same thing about the Turbogarden recirculation would make life a lot ezyer.U would need a mother to clone from.

And yes u were a great help with the DM advice thank u very much i did drop the ppm by 400 and will give give them a good flush soon.

Are u talkin about circulating a grow. Like have ur clones ready and rooted, so when u harvest , the next batch of plants are ready to be flowered? I think that dude was talkin about putting a recirculating system, such as a air stone in the buckets, or some other contraption that would keep that nute solution from being stagnant,or standing still. I'm not sure what u meant brother. If I'm wrong, please explain what u meant. I mean no disrespect brother, nor am I trying to correct u. Just the first part of ur post didn't make sense to me. I'm sorry, brother. What are u using to flush with bro? I use Clearex, for during grow, and Final Phase for the harvest flush. Peace!

 

[311]

The problem with the lid is not that big of a deal. I have bought 1" foam panels that home depot sell and use that as a lid.($10.00) I have made it so it hangs over the top, or I have cut them down to fit so no drips come out. Another solution to this problem is going to TAP Plastics and have them cut you a piece of black plastic to fit. This works well but costs about 60$. After messing with a couple of different lids, I now prefer to buy the lid that comes with the table. They just work better, but it is not hard to make a lid that works.

I feel the same way u do. I know it's pricey(these products we speak of), and yes there are a LOT of other things I can spend $300 on.... My bills for starters, LMAO. But seriously though...... My father always said.... "U get wat u pay for" If Rubbermaid made a storage bin, in the same fashion, same material as a RES, they would NOT charge us $10 for it. Yes these companies make $$$ off of use, but so does Rubbermaid. They make a healthy profit off of us 2, because they use a cheaper, non sturdy, plastic. So I want everything(res, lid, table) from wat ever company I decide to go with. I look at it this way..... If I am not satisfied with the product........ There's always craigslist. Seems like Hydroponic stuff sells real quick on craigslist around my way. And people seem to charge the going price for the products. If I paid $300, did 1 grow, and got $250 for it, I'd be happy with that. I would feel I got $50 out of that system. Peace.

 

[311]

That guy from the other site is a Total tool. as far as i can tell u r no a-hole.

Dude I don't mean to bring some BS from another site here, but look at my response to him, and look at what he wrote back to me.

This was my response to him:
There is NO reason for u to be rude dude. I KNOW I can make it myself. That's not the ?????? U didn't have to make a comment that I already know. Once again another rude person. Funny how people on other sites don't act like people on here. No need for negative BS!

and his response to me:
No one's being rude, stop drinking. You were wondering why no one is giving you input, I answered that question.

Why don't you actually try reading before flying off the handle kiddie.

Mind u I'm 36, and don't drink anymore. Don't have anything against it, just not my cup of tea. Honestly check this out. This is gonna sound crazy to some people........ But my grandmother owned a tittie-bar(strip club) for 30 some odd years. So honestly, I grew up with titties and alcohol. drinking was never my thing. Not saying I didn't drink(as a matter of fact I think I have a great/extensive wine knowledge, being I'm in the "food" industry), but it just wasn't something I loved doing or looked forward to it. Now getting home and burning a doob. HELL YEAH! That I look forward 2!

As I said, I am not bringing any drama here, by copying & pasting this on here. I just want u guys to know, that I APPRECIATE U GUYS! This thread has been a HUGE success for me because I'm getting GREAT responses. AND I also feel that if someone else ever has the same ???? as I do, and I'm sure that people will $$$$$ wat system that they would like to use..... They might be able to get some useful information out of u guys helping me. SO once again thank u guys for not being A-holes.

 

[311]

Just got given this post though u mite like to see it. one sick ebb n flow
http://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?t=108395

Wait can I say this?????????????
Ah fuck it..... It's my thread! Sorry, don't mean to offend any one, by speaking French BUT!!!!!!!!! WHAT A FUCKIN SICK FUCKIN SETUP! Dude! Really! Can I have 1 of those! I mean..... is that weed heaven? It's so white/fresh/clean in there, so I'm assuming those plants are in plant heaven. All I'm trying to say is.... If I was a plant, and I was in heaven, I would hope that's what it would look. I will admit, that 6000 w is WOW! There's a dude around my way, and he pulls about appx 8 elbows from 6400 watts, but hes got a bunch more plants than that dude there. He does 2400 watt soil and 4000 w hydro. I think he splits it between 2 houses though. not really sure, never asked him. but I know those numbers are true though. I'd be afraid of 6000 watts. I'm using 1000 watts now for 6 girls, I know I can just use my 600 w but I figured more light... bigger buds, right?

 

[311]

Here's few pics of my current soilless soil grow, for u pervs out there, LMAO. It has been a TREMENDOUS pain in the ass, which is why I can't wait to go back to hydro. I still can't understand how people think soilless soil is more forgiving than hydro. In hydro, u simply pull the res, flush, and start again. That simple! Wat can be more forgiving than that???? Me spending hours on my 4-5 gallon buckets. Mind u... It takes a good 15 gallons of water/solution per 5 gallons, to flush the soil. So that's no way forgiving to me. Enjoy the pics. Oh yeah, that fan now sits in the closet on a shelf, while outside I have a brand new fan I just bought at Home Depot for $19. It's a Lasko 18 inch oscillating fan, and it rocks. Both of those fans together, drop the temp over my canopies by 6-7 degrees. If anyone is looking for a cheap reliable fan, that cools, go to home depot and get this fan for $19 now!


LASKO 18 In. Adjustable Oscillating Pedestal Fan

These Bud shots is of my Big Buddha Chiesel, which I started flushing 3 days ago. I'm hoping I will chop her down next weekend. Oh yeah! I'll try to remember to get some Bud Shot pics of my Arjan's Haze, Strawberry Haze, Fuzzy Mango(my accidental strain. Which is K.C. Brains Brasil x Super Silver Haze-mother), and my pain in the ass Pineapple Express(having MAJOR issues with this plant)

In the tub being flushed!

 

[311]

Turbogarden is in the lead!

 

[turbo14]

WOOOAAAAAAAA(in my best karate voice)! LMAO! What nutes/supplements are u using?

Nice pics brotha!

Nutes and Supplements used in Bloom:


Ionic Bloom 3-4 TSP per Gallon
Ionic Boost 3/4 TSP per Gallon
Magi-Cal 1 TSP per Gallon
Liquid Karma 1-2 TSP per Gallon
Sugar Daddy 2 TSP per Gallon
Awesome Blossom 1 TSP per Gallon

For Veg I just use a mix of Liquid Karma @2-3 TSP per Gallon and 1/4 strength Ionic Bloom with no boost. I use to use the Ionic Grow and it worked great but their bloom mix's NPK on the bloom is almost the same exact thing. I actually just feed my 5 Gallon DWC moms only Ionic bloom and Cal-Mag and they are LUSH all the time.

All of them are good systems, you cant really go wrong with ebb and flows of any kind really. The turbos are great for small spaces or using multiple of them in tents are a killer option I must say

I just got the 8 XL Under Current that I will be trying next run to grow some trees

turbo

 

[Craven_au]

Are u talkin about circulating a grow. Like have ur clones ready and rooted, so when u harvest , the next batch of plants are ready to be flowered? I think that dude was talkin about putting a recirculating system, such as a air stone in the buckets, or some other contraption that would keep that nute solution from being stagnant,or standing still. I'm not sure what u meant brother. If I'm wrong, please explain what u meant. I mean no disrespect brother, nor am I trying to correct u. Just the first part of ur post didn't make sense to me. I'm sorry, brother. What are u using to flush with bro? I use Clearex, for during grow, and Final Phase for the harvest flush. Peace!

sorry man i was talkin about adding a control bucket of some kind to the Turbogarden so the system could be drain and refilled more easily with out moving the plants.

I 4 got no DIY but i would not use the turbogarden with out one (control bucket).

I take it you like the DONGLE69 6000W Ebb n flow.

 

[turbo14]

sorry man i was talkin about adding a control bucket of some kind to the Turbogarden so the system could be drain and refilled more easily with out moving the plants.

I 4 got no DIY but i would not use the turbogarden with out one (control bucket).

I take it you like the DONGLE69 6000W Ebb n flow.

I have 4 Turbogardens without any (control bucket) I top off rez's once a week with no problems. To drain rez's without moving plants at all, I use a aquarium vacuum that hooks up to the sink. Badda Bing Badda Boooom

turbo

 

[Craven_au]

I have 4 Turbogardens without any (control bucket) I top off rez's once a week with no problems. To drain rez's without moving plants at all, I use a aquarium vacuum that hooks up to the sink. Badda Bing Badda Boooom

turbo

The simplest ideas are the best, i have used one of them pumps my self but only four my fish tank.Great idea Turbo14 k+

see u now back to the poll.

 

[311]

First 2 pics are of Greenhouse Seed's Strawberry Haze. It is a 10-11 week strain. It is on day 60 from the flip to 12/12. 90% of the hairs are still white, BUT ALL the trichs on the bud are cloudy. There is not 1 clear or amber trich. I was planning on starting flushing next week, but I fell maybe I should go ahead and start. Any Opinions?

These 2 pics are of my accidental strain, which is a x of GHSC Super Silver Haze x KC Brains Brasil

 

[311]

Greenhouse Seed's Arjan's Haze

G13 Labs Pineapple Express "Pain In The Ass"

 

[311]

sorry man i was talkin about adding a control bucket of some kind to the Turbogarden so the system could be drain and refilled more easily with out moving the plants.

I 4 got no DIY but i would not use the turbogarden with out one (control bucket).

I take it you like the DONGLE69 6000W Ebb n flow.

Why would u need a controller bucket on a Ebb and Flow table brother? I've never seen or heard anyone use a controller bucket for a ebb & flow table, only does Ebb & Grow buckets, that kinda look like the Waterfarm. Of course I might be wrong, I'm still learning, brother.

And yes Dongle's system is F@#$in SICK, dude> Hey u from Austrlia, right? Ever heard of 2 great bands called Karnivool, and/or Twelve Foot Ninja? Peace!

 

[311]

This is my other accidental x Strain. By the way I named it Fuzzy Mango. When u take a toke it actually tastes like a hairy mango in ur mouth. As disgusting as it sounds, it is very true. If u guys have eaten mangoes ,u know wat I'm talking about. Check out the MAJOR crystals(actually on most my girls. Thanks to Bud Candy & Humboldt's Own Snow Storm Ultra

And here are some current pics of the Chiesel. those last pics of the Chiesel are now about 5 days old. So enjoy!