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La Buena Hierba

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Mossy i have some inca type of autoflower Afghan x dieselryder F3 i will work on it for you mabey there wil be a nice pheno in there for best pain-relief.

i hope i sey it correct
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mossy

Dink..dink..dink...:woohoo::woohoo::woohoo:

Back to talk shortly..but I have to explain why I am on my way upstairs to dance on the patio..incase I get arrested...:muahaha:

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that is the Black DC cross line..IN AF..:woohoo::woohoo::woohoo:

WHOOOOOP-DI-DOOOOOOOO...

The hunt for the First Black AF starts here on ICMAG..TODAY...

The first backcross on the black DC hybrid, was that backcrossed to a black indy style (Mazar x lowrider) x Lownranger) plant?

pipe...

I made 2 crosses...for a "look see"
I couldn't decide which would give me best chance of picking up the Black again.
So..I had a red stemmed F1 male on the same genetic line that the Black came from..
and a red stemmed female @ f2 from the black fem ibl..
so...
F1 (red stemmed) male to
F2 (red stemmed) fem = BX1 Black DC line..

AND..I had a white fem f2 with a white male f2 cross IBL to give me the
F3's to hunt in.

f2 (white) fem to
f2 (white) ,male = f3 Black DC line...

My bet with myself was..if I cast my nets wide enough on the F3's..I'd pick it up there first..guess I was wrong...

And pipe..and..and..and..

remember I had you checking your Pure DC's for a distinguishing leaf trait that I picked up on the Black pheno only...
well..2 of the 3 in that pot are showing the anomoly already..and the 3rd looks as if it will too...
I'm delerious..
I can feel the heat from the hunt on my face...ha ha

Since she is the first to show sex..I have to assume the others are either girls or non-af..so I have put another pot-full in to germ..see if I can pick up some coloured AF males

I have a good dark AF male on the F3's too...
so I am going to pollen strip him for a wee bit of back up..just incase
 
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mossy

Thanks! Any information like this is always helpful and will be noted.
No probs Mr.Meds...I hit it in the JEM's and lots of help/work from my Friends from f1-f4 says that we think we pinned the pheno down to the Afghan content..
(There is also a Kush/JEM project..just incase it was kush content)

it not only alleviates the symptoms..but it is an energy giver too..
Lifesaver..:joint:

HookaHittaH..where on earth is you thread now m8..I was looking yesterday to wish you Merry Christmas and you have disappeared again...
You are up and down more than a whores drawers.:biglaugh:
mossy is the security light right on your plants?
Nah HHH..I have had to re-jig my normal placement.
There is only one place where it is possible to gain acccess..so I have the security light and PIR pointed to that wall and I will extend the watering system round the other side in time for spring.
Girls have to move to stop the ripper...boo..spit..but you have to be sensible.
Wish I could afford to glass in that side..but I cannot so hey ho.
A camera is next on my list.
They are reasonably cheap now..so do-able.
:listen2:I fancied one for ages anyway...just to see what the girls get up to when they think no-one is looking at them..:bigeye:

La Buena Hierba...you do that my m8...:yes:
the ALF (afghan little f*ck) project is Ongoing.
I have finished ALF#3...ALF#4 (ALF#3 + DC) is well underway..
so I will be looking around for another Afghan dom shortly to create ALF#5.
(so you like that i do a seedsrun for f3 afghan x dieseryder?)
Yeah LBH..I like alot..I must have just posted over you m8..

So the plants that aren't shy about branching are the ones you want to focus on so long as they carry the other traits you are looking for...

Aye pipe..that frame structure is the highest yielding frame that I have found in the AF's up to now...sati or indy..mass bud sites.
I have a few of the girls on it now.
It gives highest yield in individual pots.
Both the Betty and the Bud-wide-er are on the same frame...the variation on their looks is the difference the genetic/cross brings.
Bud structure/placement/frame is exactly the same...(so is White Wizz)



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Nice surprise mossy :D
Looking forward to see the next generation,,,,
But to get this thing to have both black and AF traits as fully stable,,, gonna take a while wont it..

This business is kinda like fishing ain't it :p
 

pipeline

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Oh my goodness, the Black DC is autoflowering! Its female isn't it? :santa1:

Damn, that is a bushy plant! Looks like you just cut the top off of one of mine out inthe jungle... :smoke:

Have you seen PTK... Very indica plant.. It was perhaps more indica in appearance than the DC... Leaves were wide I tell ya... Tufty as tall fescue... :D

Pine Tar Kush

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pipeline

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The 3 Pine tar kush are the 2 plants behind the DC (red tag, 2nd row from the front...) and 1 in the front left.

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Keep in mind the structure and the internodal spacing on these will be more loose since they were grown closer together and in native vegetation...

PTK female

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cyber echo..there are a few ways of looking at it..
and I am really not sure how it will go for now..
(that is what f1-f4 are for..:biglaugh:..frequency/dominance and stability.."chances of"..)
BUT..
My Head says I'm gonna get it..
for the Start of Summer season 2011..:chin:

One certainty..IF I can get it onto AF..I will really cut down the journey time as opposed to chasing it through on a long season girl.

I Love my AF's..

Ah pipe..PTK..I have a little soft spot for PTK..
I did a bit of reading up on her when I was trying to pin-point the incense pheno back for ancestory.
What did she finish like..?
That photo of the PTK growth/colour reminds me of the b.indy..ditto some phenos of erd purt..
but looking at her candy stripped stem she resembles the Nightmare colours more..
did she finish with a matt colour or a bright..?
you got any photos of her near finish so I can see the bud..?
Might have some nice/similar dwarf rooting stock that would be good to AF her with.
 

pipeline

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PTK is the tall one just to the left of the flowering staminant DC in the center...
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Still looking through my gallery...
 

HookaHittaH

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Sounds like you got your bases covered mossy. I didnt really think till after i posted that the light schedule shouldn't matter for AF's. But if you had a few long season girls out there it would affect them. I'm really digging the leaf structure on your DC cross. Looks as if those leaves may cut your finger if you get too close ha. Maybe keep the rippers at bay? jk...
Beautiful PTK pics pipe. I too have always read about and had a soft spot for that strain. Maybe someday I will get her in my garden. Itd be cool to cross her with an AF though.
 
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mossy

Hey Guys..everyone of you..
you have all made 2009 so enjoyable for ME...:yes:

I've seen some of the Best Girls..Best Growing..Best photography..that I have ever seen..
in This forum..This Year.

(Thank you thank you ICMAG for the forum..:bow:)

Everyday has been wonderful...entertaining and educational

Skill and Enthusiasm are catching..
and you lot are all full of it. :respect:


I Love my Girls..but You make the journey so much more enjoyable..

I wish you All a Happy New Year..
Speed and Safety in everything you do for 2010

Together we will AF the World..:thanks:

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This is me in for the night....:biglaugh:
but I'll be up on the patio with the Girls at Midnight sending karma to you ALL. :smokeit:
 

pipeline

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Indeed mossy, this has been one heck of a year. With the coming reforms I expect this forum to only grow exponentially!

I've got to get out to the garage for a pipe, we are about to leave to go on errands...
 
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mossy

Hey Come on...Wakey..Wakey..Rise and Shine......:coffee:

It's a New dawn..it's a New Day..it's a New Waaay......
an I'm feeeeling Good...:tree:

New Decade..decade of the AF's..:smoweed:

Hahahahah mossy you're gonna smoke all that ?
Tradition cyber echo..if your pot is full on New Year Eve..it will be full all Year...
But..
I did attempt it...:joint:
sooooooooo..
guess who fell asleep @ 10.30pm and didn't wake up until the dog was going bloody frantic with the fireworks @ midnight..
so I missed it..
Valiant effort though...:smokeit:

HookaHittaH...
Sounds like you got your bases covered mossy.
:smoke:
I find the splicing and dicing the most exciting bit..chopping and cutting the cross..
so I like to make a few..put them through their paces..and see which combination performs best...before I hyb.
Because (most) canna are such mongrels..it amazing what variation you can pull out of most crosses.
 

Meaty

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:wave:

Happy New Year everybody! 2010 is sounding to be a very good year for the legalization movements. We can only pray!


2 more weeks :tree:

 
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mossy

Legalisation..man..that would be a dream come true my m8...:jump:
I cannot believe that you are only two weeks off harvest..
In your honest opinion..what difference has the change in compo/ferts done for them..
Has it been worth it..?
From my end they look much better/bigger yield..but you are the hands on one.

I'm really digging the leaf structure on your DC cross. Looks as if those leaves may cut your finger if you get too close ha. Maybe keep the rippers at bay? jk...
Very "Saw" leafed isn't it..?
I like that kinda definition. Maybe I could have it replicated in steel and draw it across his throat...ha ha ha
Nah..today is peace and goodwill to ALL men..even rippers..
spit..spit..spit....:elf: :elf: :elf:

Beautiful PTK pics pipe. I too have always read about and had a soft spot for that strain. Maybe someday I will get her in my garden. Itd be cool to cross her with an AF though.
mmmmm...been thinking about that one...:chin:
an I am just about positively sure that it has pipeline project written all over it..:biglaugh::biglaugh::biglaugh:

an'..you know..you have come on leaps and bounds with the AF'S this season..
you made your own IBL's..
maybe it is a cross You could make ...:muahaha:
They taste Soooo much sweeter when you have made them yourself
 

Meaty

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Legalisation..man..that would be a dream come true my m8...:jump:
I cannot believe that you are only two weeks off harvest..
In your honest opinion..what difference has the change in compo/ferts done for them..
Has it been worth it..?
From my end they look much better/bigger yield..but you are the hands on one.


In my opinion so far, they seem healthier overall. The yellowing is due to the lime I added, caused lockout. Next round I am ditching the lime altogether. But the true test will be in the smoke. I shall let you know in that department.

Bottom line so far, I think it was worth it.


:listen2: If you can't find fox farms, make your own soil. 60% peat moss, 20% worm castings, 20% perlite. Give or take on the amount of compost.
 
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mossy

If you can't find fox farms, make your own soil.
Cheers Meaty...Mr Meds sent me this tip..
cheers Mr Meds...:yes:

Hey Mossy, If you can't find any FFOF in Spain man try looking for CANNA. I see that there is some on ebay from UK. They'd probably ship to spain. Happy New Years!
so I am going to check it out.

I think some of my germ probs may be down to the compo I had to swap to this season..
(you been sending me gremlins..:elf:...:biglaugh:)
I changed to an organic..but it was so bloody dense that the water pooled on the surface before it would penetrate.
I lightened it up with some hydro balls because perlite is giving me problems..
but I am still nnot happy with it.
ICC recommended a batmix..so I managed to get some of that and I am about to trial it...
an I will checkout the link from Mr. Meds..
might cost a fortune to get it shipped from the UK because of weight..but hey..you never know.

Bottom line so far, I think it was worth it.
Always boils down to yield/taste/effect in the end..
but they look as if they are carrying a lot more weight to me..
 
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Hey Mr Meds...look who my ferts are made by..
If I can get the ferts..maybe I can get the compo too..

Have you tried it..?
 
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