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Challenging YOU To "Smoke The Vote!" In Ca!

justalilrowdy

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Hey Payaso.. Skip.. Doobieduck.. and all you icmag moderators lets launch a campaign to "Smoke the Vote!" and get all the california prop 215 patients to get out there to register to vote! Lets make sure our voices are heard here in Lake County as well as the rest of California! Make sure you know the politician you cast your vote for has our best interest at heart! We CAN make changes from who is on our local City Council & Board of Supervisors to who will best represent us as Attorney General and Governor.
We will have voter registration forms available at the club and will be encouraging everyone to "Smoke the Vote" and show our strength and unification at the next election!
If we stand united we'll smoke em!
 

Payaso

Original Editor of ICMagazine
Veteran
This is a wonderful idea!

I am already registered, and do vote, and hope that all medical patients will do the same.

Without voting, you have no say in what happens to you. When you vote, you are using your vote to express your opinion. What's wrong with that? Nothing... it's a good thing.

Actually I firmly believe it is your DUTY as a citizen to vote. Other countries require 100% of the population to vote (Australia is one example)...these are called DEMOCRACIES. A good thing.

Here in Lake County we have a great opportunity to make some real change happen. Rob Brown is up for re-election to the Board of Supervisors, as is Sheriff Mitchell. If you know anything about Lake County you know these positions must be filled by someone new, with ideas more in tune with the general population rather than the old conservative powers that used to be.

Stand up for yourself and vote!

Meanwhile have a nice visit with the folks at Good Karma and register if you have not done so already. Every vote counts!
 

justalilrowdy

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Veteran
Looks like we are going to have the opportunity to vote for legalization in 2010 so EVERYONE who is interested in seeing that happen needs to register to vote. MAKE YOUR VOICE BE HEARD! We will have voter registration forms available to anyone not currently registered to vote.
Its the way to change things.. not just legalization.
Every vote counts!
Peace and love.. and happy holidaze to everyone!! :smokeit:
 
Isnt the vote coming up the bullshit legislation written by the oaksterdam 4? some BS about 1 oz limits and a 5x5 grow only?

Is it worh voting yes on this and sticking ourself with limits and corupt big dispenseries? Would it not be bette to wait for a more favorable written measure to come forth and bide our time with what we have now?

Or am I thinking of a bill that didnt get enough votes?
 

krunchbubble

Dear Haters, I Have So Much More For You To Be Mad
Veteran
Isnt the vote coming up the bullshit legislation written by the oaksterdam 4? some BS about 1 oz limits and a 5x5 grow only?

Is it worh voting yes on this and sticking ourself with limits and corupt big dispenseries? Would it not be bette to wait for a more favorable written measure to come forth and bide our time with what we have now?

Or am I thinking of a bill that didnt get enough votes?



you are right. and anyone who thinks this legalization ballot is going to be a god send is delusional.
richard lee is trying to monopolize the medical marijuana industry in oaksterdam with this ballot, and he has almost succeeded. he is the devil.
he made sure there wont be any more clubs in oakland. and do you think most patients can grow there meds in a 5 by 5 area can sustain themselves? doubt it. hes just making sure that you will still need to purchase meds and conveniently, at his clubs....
 

justalilrowdy

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ICMag Donor
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you are right. and anyone who thinks this legalization ballot is going to be a god send is delusional.
richard lee is trying to monopolize the medical marijuana industry in oaksterdam with this ballot, and he has almost succeeded. he is the devil.
he made sure there wont be any more clubs in oakland. and do you think most patients can grow there meds in a 5 by 5 area can sustain themselves? doubt it. hes just making sure that you will still need to purchase meds and conveniently, at his clubs....

Be ready to make your voice be heard no matter which way you vote!
On the ballot in 2010

Section 1: Name

This Act shall be known as the “The Tax, Regulate, and Control Cannabis Act of 2010.”
Section 2: Findings

This Act, adopted by the People of the State of California, is intended to:

Prohibit furnishing cannabis to minors below the age of 21, unless for medical use.
Repeal all existing state and local laws that criminally prohibit or punish cannabis and associated cannabis related activities.
Permit the possession, use, sharing, cultivation, transportation, and other activities related to cannabis by persons over the age of 21.
Mandate the State government to adopt reasonable laws to permit, license, control and issue taxes for the commercial cultivation and sales of cannabis.
Permit the cultivation, processing, sales, transportation and distribution of industrial hemp.
Authorize local governments to adopt ordinances, rules and regulations regarding such licensed businesses, including appropriate zoning, permits, licenses, safety, and environmental laws to protect the general health and welfare of the public.
Punish those who violate this Act and prevent any state or local agency from prohibiting or obstructing the terms or spirit of this Act
Make cannabis available for scientific, medical, industrial and research purposes.
Permit the State of California to fulfill obligations under the United States Constitution to enact laws concerning health, morals, public welfare and safety.
Continue to enforce all laws relating to driving and contributing to the delinquency of a minor.

Section 3: Definitions

For purposes of this Act:

a. “Cannabis” means all parts from plants of the Genus Cannabis, whether growing or not; seeds thereof; resin extracted from any part of the plant; concentrated cannabis; edible products containing cannabis; and every compound, manufacture, salt, derivative, mixture, or preparation of the plant, its seeds, or resin. The terms “Marijuana” and “Cannabis” are interchangeable for the purposes of this Act.

b. “Industrial hemp” means an agricultural field crop that is limited to non-psychoactive varieties of the Cannabis plant having no more than three-tenths of one percent tetrahydrocannabinol contained in the dried flowering tops, that is cultivated and processed exclusively for the purpose of producing the mature stalks of the plant, fiber produced from the stalks, oil or cake made from the seeds of the plant, or any other compound, manufacture, salt, derivative, mixture, or preparation of the mature stalks (except the resin or flowering tops extracted therefrom), fiber, oil, or cake, or the sterilized seed of the plant which is incapable of germination.

Section 4: Cannabis Control, Decriminalization, Regulation, and Taxation

Article 5 of Chapter 5 of Division 10 of the Health and Safety Code, commencing with section 11300 is added to read:

Section 11300: Laws Permitting Cannabis Activities by Adults Aged 21 and Over

(a) It is lawful, and not a crime or public offense under California law for persons aged 21 and older to engage in the following acts or activities related to the plant genus cannabis: possession, transportation, use, furnishing, sales, cultivation, or processing.

(1) Persons aged 21 and over may cultivate reasonable amounts of cannabis for their personal use. Amounts cultivated beyond personal use needs are subject to commercial restrictions, taxes and fees imposed pursuant to this Act.

(2) All persons aged 21 and over may possess objects, items, tools, equipment, products and material associated with activities permitted under this Act. This includes scales or other weighing devices.

(b) This Act hereby repeals all state laws that prohibit cannabis possession, sales, transportation, production, processing, and cultivation, and removes cannabis from any other statutes pertaining to the regulation of controlled substances, whether now existing or enacted in the future, including but not limited to the following:

(1) Health and Safety Code Sections 11014.5 and 11364 [relating to drug

paraphernalia]; 11054 [relating to cannabis or tetrahydrocannabinols]; 11357 [relating to possession]; 11358 [relating to cultivation]; 11359 [relating to possession for sale]; 11360 [relating to transportation and sales]; 11361 [related to minors]; 11366 and 11366.5 [related to maintaining a place for cultivation, sales]; 11370 [relating to punishment]; 11379.6 [relating to processing]; 11470 [relating to forfeiture]; 11479 [relating to seizure and destruction]; 11703 [relating to definitions regarding illegal substances]; 11705 [actions for use of illegal controlled substance]; Vehicle Code sections 23222 and 40000.15 [relating to possession].

(c) This act is not intended to affect the application California Vehicle Code §23152

[relating to driving while impaired] and Penal Code §272 [relating to

contributing to the delinquency of a minor].

(d) This Act strictly prohibits all sales of cannabis outside the State of California unless such sales are not inconsistent with federal or international law.

(e) This Act shall be retroactive, and by operation of law expunges the conviction of anyone previously convicted of a cannabis offense.

(f) The Act prohibits any person from being denied any right or privilege for conduct in accordance with this article. No person shall be discriminated against regarding, but not limited to, healthcare, education, employment, retirement, and insurance, for conduct permitted by this Act.

Section 11301: State and Local laws to Control and Regulate Commercial Cannabis

California state and local governments shall adopt reasonable ordinances, regulations, or other acts having the force of law to control, license, regulate, permit or otherwise authorize the following:

(a) Commercial cultivation, production, processing, distribution, and sales of cannabis for commercial and personal uses, including:

(1) Establishments, open to the public, that sell and/or allow on-premises smoking and other use of cannabis, and;

(2) Locations engaged in the commercial propagation, cultivation, processing and/or distribution of cannabis, and;

(3) Any other entity or location needed to further activities permitted and/or mandated by this Act.

(b) Local governments may create regulations of any such establishment in accordance with this article including but not limited to environmental, accessibility, and zoning ordinances.

(c) Local governments are prohibited from banning establishments, businesses, and other entities engaged in any conduct allowed by this Act.

(d) The State shall create appropriate regulations to ensure uniform and orderly implementation of this Act including regulations, laws, and other acts having the force of law, requiring that any such permitted or licensed business, facility or premises:

(1) prevent any harm to the environment,

(2) have appropriate controls to ensure protection of minors,

(3) permit or license the commercial cultivation and sale of Cannabis,

(4) create and levy appropriate taxes or fees pursuant to section 11302,

(5) enact laws or create agencies consistent with the purposes of this Act.

(e) The State shall enact labeling requirements in order to inform the public for all cannabis sold or offered for sale to the public that includes:

(1) City, county, or other appellation, and;

(2) Species, strain(s) and/or variety(ies) of packaged cannabis, and;

(3) General THC content, and;

(4) Organic certification, or, if not certified as organically grown, a listing of pesticides, herbicides, and/or additives used;

(5) Certification that the Cannabis is not genetically modified.

Section 11302: Imposition and Collection of Taxes and Fees

(a) The Legislature shall create a system for the fair and orderly taxation of commercial production, sales and other cannabis business related activities within one year of the passage of this Act. The rate of taxation shall be initially set at no less than Fifty United States Dollars per ounce of Cannabis.

(b) State and local governments shall create a system for the fair and orderly issuance of licenses or permits, and the collection of licensing or permitting fees.

(c) In order to foster environmentally responsible practices for cannabis production, cultivation, processing, and other related activities, the Legislature shall enact preferential regulatory and tax treatment for entities engaged in organic and/or sustainable practices.

(d) Taxes imposed pursuant to this Act must be spent on public education, healthcare, environmental programs, public works, and state parks.

(e) Only Cannabis that is commercially cultivated, distributed, and/or sold shall be taxed.

Section 11303: Industrial Hemp

(a) This Act hereby provides for the decriminalization of industrial hemp. The state and local governments shall enact laws and regulations promoting the cultivation, production, processing, sales, distribution, regulation, and taxation of industrial hemp and all derivatives thereof.

Section 11304: Penalties for Violation of this Act

(a) Penalties for the furnishing of cannabis to a minor shall be consistent with

penalties for similar alcohol related offenses in a manner to be determined by the

Legislature.

(b) Penalties to the minor for cannabis related offenses shall be non-custodial as

determined by the Legislature.

(c) Nothing in the Act shall permit the smoking of Cannabis:

(1) In or within 500 feet of the grounds of a school (other than university or college), or youth center, unless the personal use occurs within a residence.

(2) On a school bus.

(3) By the operator of a motorized vehicle, vessel, or aircraft during operation.

(d) The unauthorized sale of cannabis shall be subject to civil and regulatory penalties to be determined by the Legislature.

(e) Establishments, facilities, individuals and other entities that

maliciously and repeatedly violate this Act are subject to civil,

regulatory, and licensing penalties to be determined by the Legislature.

(f) All civil penalties for violations of these new cannabis regulations shall be spent on public education, healthcare, environmental programs, public works, and state parks.

Section 11305: Severability

If any section, subdivision, sentence, clause, phrase, or portion of this Article is for any reason held invalid or unconstitutional by any court of competent jurisdiction, that portion shall be deemed a separate, distinct, and independent provision, and that holding shall not affect the validity of the remaining portion thereof.
 

CaptainTrips

Active member
you are right. and anyone who thinks this legalization ballot is going to be a god send is delusional.
richard lee is trying to monopolize the medical marijuana industry in oaksterdam with this ballot, and he has almost succeeded. he is the devil.
he made sure there wont be any more clubs in oakland. and do you think most patients can grow there meds in a 5 by 5 area can sustain themselves? doubt it. hes just making sure that you will still need to purchase meds and conveniently, at his clubs....

If you are a "patient" you are going to be growing under prop 215...You can grow a lot of weed in a 5x5 area, certainly I do not like that prop, and it is not legalization. It is further decriminization... makes it safer to grow in theory, while likely maintaining the high retail marketplace...
 

Caille

Member
Be ready to make your voice be heard no matter which way you vote!
On the ballot in 2010

Section 1: Name

This Act shall be known as the “The Tax, Regulate, and Control Cannabis Act of 2010.”
Section 2: Findings

This Act, adopted by the People of the State of California, is intended to:

Prohibit furnishing cannabis to minors below the age of 21, unless for medical use.
Repeal all existing state and local laws that criminally prohibit or punish cannabis and associated cannabis related activities.
Permit the possession, use, sharing, cultivation, transportation, and other activities related to cannabis by persons over the age of 21.
Mandate the State government to adopt reasonable laws to permit, license, control and issue taxes for the commercial cultivation and sales of cannabis.
Permit the cultivation, processing, sales, transportation and distribution of industrial hemp.
Authorize local governments to adopt ordinances, rules and regulations regarding such licensed businesses, including appropriate zoning, permits, licenses, safety, and environmental laws to protect the general health and welfare of the public.
Punish those who violate this Act and prevent any state or local agency from prohibiting or obstructing the terms or spirit of this Act
Make cannabis available for scientific, medical, industrial and research purposes.
Permit the State of California to fulfill obligations under the United States Constitution to enact laws concerning health, morals, public welfare and safety.
Continue to enforce all laws relating to driving and contributing to the delinquency of a minor.

Section 3: Definitions

For purposes of this Act:

a. “Cannabis” means all parts from plants of the Genus Cannabis, whether growing or not; seeds thereof; resin extracted from any part of the plant; concentrated cannabis; edible products containing cannabis; and every compound, manufacture, salt, derivative, mixture, or preparation of the plant, its seeds, or resin. The terms “Marijuana” and “Cannabis” are interchangeable for the purposes of this Act.

b. “Industrial hemp” means an agricultural field crop that is limited to non-psychoactive varieties of the Cannabis plant having no more than three-tenths of one percent tetrahydrocannabinol contained in the dried flowering tops, that is cultivated and processed exclusively for the purpose of producing the mature stalks of the plant, fiber produced from the stalks, oil or cake made from the seeds of the plant, or any other compound, manufacture, salt, derivative, mixture, or preparation of the mature stalks (except the resin or flowering tops extracted therefrom), fiber, oil, or cake, or the sterilized seed of the plant which is incapable of germination.

Section 4: Cannabis Control, Decriminalization, Regulation, and Taxation

Article 5 of Chapter 5 of Division 10 of the Health and Safety Code, commencing with section 11300 is added to read:

Section 11300: Laws Permitting Cannabis Activities by Adults Aged 21 and Over

(a) It is lawful, and not a crime or public offense under California law for persons aged 21 and older to engage in the following acts or activities related to the plant genus cannabis: possession, transportation, use, furnishing, sales, cultivation, or processing.

(1) Persons aged 21 and over may cultivate reasonable amounts of cannabis for their personal use. Amounts cultivated beyond personal use needs are subject to commercial restrictions, taxes and fees imposed pursuant to this Act.

(2) All persons aged 21 and over may possess objects, items, tools, equipment, products and material associated with activities permitted under this Act. This includes scales or other weighing devices.

(b) This Act hereby repeals all state laws that prohibit cannabis possession, sales, transportation, production, processing, and cultivation, and removes cannabis from any other statutes pertaining to the regulation of controlled substances, whether now existing or enacted in the future, including but not limited to the following:

(1) Health and Safety Code Sections 11014.5 and 11364 [relating to drug

paraphernalia]; 11054 [relating to cannabis or tetrahydrocannabinols]; 11357 [relating to possession]; 11358 [relating to cultivation]; 11359 [relating to possession for sale]; 11360 [relating to transportation and sales]; 11361 [related to minors]; 11366 and 11366.5 [related to maintaining a place for cultivation, sales]; 11370 [relating to punishment]; 11379.6 [relating to processing]; 11470 [relating to forfeiture]; 11479 [relating to seizure and destruction]; 11703 [relating to definitions regarding illegal substances]; 11705 [actions for use of illegal controlled substance]; Vehicle Code sections 23222 and 40000.15 [relating to possession].

(c) This act is not intended to affect the application California Vehicle Code §23152

[relating to driving while impaired] and Penal Code §272 [relating to

contributing to the delinquency of a minor].

(d) This Act strictly prohibits all sales of cannabis outside the State of California unless such sales are not inconsistent with federal or international law.

(e) This Act shall be retroactive, and by operation of law expunges the conviction of anyone previously convicted of a cannabis offense.

(f) The Act prohibits any person from being denied any right or privilege for conduct in accordance with this article. No person shall be discriminated against regarding, but not limited to, healthcare, education, employment, retirement, and insurance, for conduct permitted by this Act.

Section 11301: State and Local laws to Control and Regulate Commercial Cannabis

California state and local governments shall adopt reasonable ordinances, regulations, or other acts having the force of law to control, license, regulate, permit or otherwise authorize the following:

(a) Commercial cultivation, production, processing, distribution, and sales of cannabis for commercial and personal uses, including:

(1) Establishments, open to the public, that sell and/or allow on-premises smoking and other use of cannabis, and;

(2) Locations engaged in the commercial propagation, cultivation, processing and/or distribution of cannabis, and;

(3) Any other entity or location needed to further activities permitted and/or mandated by this Act.

(b) Local governments may create regulations of any such establishment in accordance with this article including but not limited to environmental, accessibility, and zoning ordinances.

(c) Local governments are prohibited from banning establishments, businesses, and other entities engaged in any conduct allowed by this Act.

(d) The State shall create appropriate regulations to ensure uniform and orderly implementation of this Act including regulations, laws, and other acts having the force of law, requiring that any such permitted or licensed business, facility or premises:

(1) prevent any harm to the environment,

(2) have appropriate controls to ensure protection of minors,

(3) permit or license the commercial cultivation and sale of Cannabis,

(4) create and levy appropriate taxes or fees pursuant to section 11302,

(5) enact laws or create agencies consistent with the purposes of this Act.

(e) The State shall enact labeling requirements in order to inform the public for all cannabis sold or offered for sale to the public that includes:

(1) City, county, or other appellation, and;

(2) Species, strain(s) and/or variety(ies) of packaged cannabis, and;

(3) General THC content, and;

(4) Organic certification, or, if not certified as organically grown, a listing of pesticides, herbicides, and/or additives used;

(5) Certification that the Cannabis is not genetically modified.

Section 11302: Imposition and Collection of Taxes and Fees

(a) The Legislature shall create a system for the fair and orderly taxation of commercial production, sales and other cannabis business related activities within one year of the passage of this Act. The rate of taxation shall be initially set at no less than Fifty United States Dollars per ounce of Cannabis.

(b) State and local governments shall create a system for the fair and orderly issuance of licenses or permits, and the collection of licensing or permitting fees.

(c) In order to foster environmentally responsible practices for cannabis production, cultivation, processing, and other related activities, the Legislature shall enact preferential regulatory and tax treatment for entities engaged in organic and/or sustainable practices.

(d) Taxes imposed pursuant to this Act must be spent on public education, healthcare, environmental programs, public works, and state parks.

(e) Only Cannabis that is commercially cultivated, distributed, and/or sold shall be taxed.

Section 11303: Industrial Hemp

(a) This Act hereby provides for the decriminalization of industrial hemp. The state and local governments shall enact laws and regulations promoting the cultivation, production, processing, sales, distribution, regulation, and taxation of industrial hemp and all derivatives thereof.

Section 11304: Penalties for Violation of this Act

(a) Penalties for the furnishing of cannabis to a minor shall be consistent with

penalties for similar alcohol related offenses in a manner to be determined by the

Legislature.

(b) Penalties to the minor for cannabis related offenses shall be non-custodial as

determined by the Legislature.

(c) Nothing in the Act shall permit the smoking of Cannabis:

(1) In or within 500 feet of the grounds of a school (other than university or college), or youth center, unless the personal use occurs within a residence.

(2) On a school bus.

(3) By the operator of a motorized vehicle, vessel, or aircraft during operation.

(d) The unauthorized sale of cannabis shall be subject to civil and regulatory penalties to be determined by the Legislature.

(e) Establishments, facilities, individuals and other entities that

maliciously and repeatedly violate this Act are subject to civil,

regulatory, and licensing penalties to be determined by the Legislature.

(f) All civil penalties for violations of these new cannabis regulations shall be spent on public education, healthcare, environmental programs, public works, and state parks.

Section 11305: Severability

If any section, subdivision, sentence, clause, phrase, or portion of this Article is for any reason held invalid or unconstitutional by any court of competent jurisdiction, that portion shall be deemed a separate, distinct, and independent provision, and that holding shall not affect the validity of the remaining portion thereof.



This does not sound like the Oakland 4 bill...this I would vote for. The cynical part of me thinks that both bills will make it on the ballot to confuse people into passing neither.

Alexis
*smiles*
 
J

JackTheGrower

I am against not allowing all citizens the right to breed plants but it's a bitter pill to swallow if we don't get something going.

That is on my mind a lot at this point.

What will we do if we don't support this? Will we all get involved in 2012? I am all for that! CCI or Jack's or some hybrid maybe?

But we need to get our people voting..

We need bumper stickers on our cars to say this.

"Tell two people to tell to two people to tell two people to REGISTER TO VOTE" and have a Pot Leaf + 2010 On it.

Let the voters decide.

If it's bad we can change it but it will be better than not having it in terms of changing things UNLESS we can reach everyone with media ads.

How can we get the people to know legalization from Decriminalization without an education campaign?

I don't know.. It's not what i want but it is something..


If AB390 makes it?? If not I will most likely vote yes for tc2010...
 

justalilrowdy

Active member
ICMag Donor
Veteran
We have voter registration forms available at the club for anyone who needs one. PLEASE EVERYONE GET OUT AND VOTE!
Merry Christmas and Happy Holidaze!! :xmastree:
 

justalilrowdy

Active member
ICMag Donor
Veteran
Hey everyone!
Register To Vote! Make Your Voice Heard.


Now is the time to GET UP STAND UP!
Dont just lay there doin nothin! Make your voice be heard!
GET UP STAND UP!


REGISTER TO VOTE!!
 

markscastle

Member
You just got to be kidding? I`m dead against ab 390! It`s a scam to industrialize marijuana and steps all over peoples rights! what we need to do if this passes is to hold a vote of the people of the Great State of California and override this law and all other laws involving marijuana.What we need is decriminalization! Don`t tread on me!
 

h&r

Member
The rate of taxation shall be initially set at no less than Fifty United States Dollars per ounce of Cannabis.
Not sure if passing this will drop the price of weed to justify such a steep tax.

Im with Mr.Herer...

"I don't want to f**king give the United States government one f**king dollar of taxes. I think that they should go to f**king jail for getting you and me and 20 million people getting arrested for pot. It is the safest thing you can do in the universe. And that is what we are going to do in California. Okay?"
 

markscastle

Member
No put me down for decriminalization with out all the greedy, money making,control freak BS that is in those proposed laws! Is That what we want? To sell out for a little 1 oz bag of weed? God gave us cannibis freely and it`s OURS! Not the Goverments,not the Corps.and their Banks!, to control! ,to tax!, and regulate! Way to many have given way to much to sell out now! And Jack Herer is a anti -prohibtion Hero Bro!
 

Pythagllio

Patient Grower
Veteran
markcastle, I disagree. By supporting the extremist position you espouse you are effectively supporting the continued prohibition of cannabis. In the real world of US politics your agenda doesn't have the proverbial snowball's chance in hell of happening. I'd love it if life were all puppies and sunshine but there is a substantial percentage of the people that are firmly against us and that will use any means necessary to impede our progress. Our numbers do not allow us the luxury of demanding unfettered legalization, and there's no motivation for support from the people with substantial resources if they're cut out of the deal. In order to get our foot in the door we're going to have to offer compromises with the people who don't have much of a stake, but nevertheless have substantial fear that has been propagated by over 70 years of relentless propaganda.

IMO it is sheer idiocy to oppose either AB390 or TC2010. It's bad for California, and it's bad for all cannabis users in the US.
 

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