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It is CHRISTMAS, not anything else

"war on Christmas".
yeah duh guys, hasn't Papa Bear O'Reilly told you about the War on Christmas?? The Satanist of the world are uniting to destroy the Christian tradition! We have to stop them! Please everyone get angry when publicly funded organizations say Happy Holidays as a way to include everyone who pays or when businesses try to include all of their shoppers, not just the Christian ones. Happy Holidays covers everyone, Merry Christmas covers only the people who celebrate Christmas and leaves everyone else out....That's why they do it.
I dont give a flying fuck either way, it's all silly stories in my mind but it I do enjoy the chance to gather with family and enjoy good food and good times.
 

SpasticGramps

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Sad, but oh so true!

In regards to your last post, it wasn't just a sitcom man, it was a sitcom about nothing ;) Guess ya have to be American to dig it... Anybody got any manziers? I gotta gift my buddy one, just to see his reaction! :biglaugh:

p.s. I've done a bit of traveling in my day. And we Americans are by far the kindest folks you'll meet... You can bet that!

LOL. I hear ya bro. I'm American. I was just raised overseas. I know all about Sienfield.

Like I said, if that's your holiday (Festivus). I can dig that too. It's not like holiday's based around crazier concepts don't exist. Sienfield is cooler that the Easter Bunny IMO. I had just never heard of it.
 

Sleepy

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hehehe...merry christmas dr. dog!!

hehehe...merry christmas dr. dog!!

its all about the kids here...

we are not religious...

we moved into this house in February a while back...it has a propane fireplace...the first thing my little guy says is this:

"how's Santa gonna get in with our stuff...there's no chimney!"

explain that to a 4 year old!

:xmasnut::xmastree::santa1::stocking:
 

Hydro-Soil

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The pagan celebration you are referring to is 'Saturnalia', celebrating the winter solstice. DEC. 17-25 was when the celebration was held.
Christmas is derived from this but a different entity, I believe. There was nothing Christian about the Saturnalia. Christians re-named it Christmas, stating it would recognize Dec. 25 as the birth of Jesus. Back then the church was LAW.
Christmas may have derived from Saturnalia, but it's CLEARLY not the same message, or celebration.

YEah that..... It's why I use Xmas and Happy Holidays.

Kinda dumb to get all riled up about something like this, especially without checking history for the facts.



In MY family... yes, it's all about family. We really don't care what other people think... they don't buy/cook our food or pay our rent anyway. :D
 
its all about the kids here...

we are not religious...

we moved into this house in February a while back...it has a propane fireplace...the first thing my little guy says is this:

"how's Santa gonna get in with our stuff...there's no chimney!"

explain that to a 4 year old!

:xmasnut::xmastree::santa1::stocking:

tell them Santa has a teleporter like on Star Trek... just think like a kid :D
 
Merry Christmas AND Happy Holidays. We recognize that Christmas deserves it's own mention as it is the celebration of most, while still not excluding the minority.

And they say Obama is a uniter, sheeeeiiiittt.



Dopey the Clown, 2012. Legalize it.
 

T.Baggins

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Reminds me of the famous quote from William shakespeare, who happens to be the writer of The King James Version of the Bible...
"A rose by any other name would smell as sweet"

well... have a cool yule...
 
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THC_Decapitator

why argue and get crazy over all this and that .Merry Holidays to one and all .
 

Yummybud

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hmm. my family is persian and we are not christian, jewish or muslim but we celebrate christmas but not as a religious holiday.

we have a christmas tree presents. I used to even to to church with my family lol and went to sunday school when I was a kid and were not freakin christian or religious.

I call it chrismas usually............. let me explain.

right now I want to send my professor an email to get a reference and I want to say "merry christmas" but then I thought what if she is jewish or something or not religious then she might get offended so I'm thinking of saying "happy holidays!"


seriously most people these days celebrate christmas like they celebnrate haloween its not really a religious holiday to them but a time to put up lights on your house and get presents.


I personally do not like any religion, I see it all as brainwashing and control. religion is informal means to control the masses. and people have used religion throughout history to start wars and kill millions in the name of their religion.

I still like Christmas though and call it christmas....... unless i'm scared someones going to get all offended.
 

Yummybud

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so was Santa in the Bible somwhere?

And Jesus said to Abraham, Santa shall rain presents upon thee from above if thou are not naughty but nice.
 

mriko

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Christmas was a Pagan winter celebration which was changed to celebrate the birth of Jesus even though he was born sometime in June or July.

Nope, Christmas wasn't a pagan winter celebration, because Christmas simply was not.

The pagan celebration you are referring to is 'Saturnalia', celebrating the winter solstice. DEC. 17-25 was when the celebration was held.
Christmas is derived from this but a different entity, I believe. There was nothing Christian about the Saturnalia. Christians re-named it Christmas, stating it would recognize Dec. 25 as the birth of Jesus. Back then the church was LAW.
Christmas may have derived from Saturnalia, but it's CLEARLY not the same message, or celebration.

Nope again, Christmas didn't replaced Saturnalia celebrations, which actually ended on December 23rd.

There were many other man-god legends. None gave Christianity more competition than the cult of the sun demigod Mithras. Mithraism’s popularity peaked in the third century C.E. In 274, Emperor Aurelian proclaimed the birth of Mithras an official holiday. Its date: December 25.

Still nope, you are mixing two different cults in here. Aurelian was not an adept of Mithras, and it is for the celebration of Sol Invictus that he choose the 25th of december, the day when days start to get longer again. Christian Fathers choose the 25th of December as celebration day in order to counter the Sol Invictus cult.

Believers said Mithras was born of a virgin and passed part of his infancy in a cave, where shepherds and traveling wise men paid him homage.

Mithra was born as an adult from a stone actually, the petra generatrix.

As an adult, Mithras was said to have healed the sick, made the blind see and the lame walk, cast out devils, and raised the dead.

There's no source with such claim, where have you found that ?

they hate me because i'm an infidel.

No I don't hate you, actually I truly don't give a damn about what or how you believe



Merry Christmas & Happy Holidays everyone !

Irie !
 

VerdantGreen

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i dont believe any names should necessarily be changed but i see christmas as a pagan celebration of the solstice as much as anything. we bring holly and ivy in on the 21st and have a christmas tree - all pagan aspects that have been absorbed into chrismas.

when we lived in tooting in south london they put decorations up early so as they could be a celebration for divali and then left them up for chrismas too. we loved it.

goodwill to all men (people) is really the most important bit imo

V.
 

Scrogerman

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'Dont see ya problem,
Its a holiday period, usually the americans like to use the term, but sometimes us brits use it too.
Peace & Happy Holidays LOL...............Scrog'

Merry xmas dude!!!!!
 
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