LR2 help please

[Roortokeage]

thanks for the advice people. Ive been told that the local water is ph 7.8. i went out shopping but couldnt find a kit to test myself and if i order one online now i doubt it will come in time. Is there a way i can adjust the water ph levels with anything I might be able to get hold of easily? Ill give her a good flush.
she seems to be a bit behind the others who are nearly ready. will examine the trichs later...

extending the bloom cycle may lead to the plant becoming hermaphradite
peace

weaver

Who said to extend it?? We said to Lower it, Take away GIVE MORE DARK.. Again here we go. The more dark the plant gets and if he give more dark, the plant will think it is at the end of its Life cycle and the trichs will get better faster. No1 said to give more light, I said give it MORE DARK!

Also James go to the aquarium store go get PH up and PH down. You can use both to lower or raise the PH level of the soil.

Scrog I dont know whats your issue dude, and dont know why you think you are the man. I gave the guy advice, that was givin to me at one time. If you think my advice is wrong you can just say hey buddy, thats wrong, he shoudl be doing this and the reason is..... You really say Im the Prick but look at you dude. Did I come and say your a POS and your Info is shit??? NOPE why because I love to learn and always listen to waht others have to say, and I will see if it works. So I do apologuize for giving bad or wrong advice. So please dont treat me like shit or sum scum. thank you

 

[Scrogerman]

Hey Roor,
Listen bud i aint the man, & i never called you a prick either. I dont want to upset anyone either. You made what i think was an attack on what i was saying, i never mentioned no names but i supposed you realised it was you i was referring to & you made a little bullshit attack on me in one of your posts. Fk all that shite anyway lets just play nicely ah, i aint got a problem with people that wanna hand out good advise, but when people hand out bollok advise it pisses me off. and yeah you seem to have little knowledge on the subject. I'm not saying your always wrong but some of what you say aint quite right and i see it as bad advise, for instance what you have just said in your last post is BOLLOCKS and quote:by Roortokeage
Who said to extend it?? We said to Lower it, Take away GIVE MORE DARK.. Again here we go. The more dark the plant gets and if he give more dark, the plant will think it is at the end of its Life cycle and the trichs will get better faster. No1 said to give more light, I said give it MORE DARK!

This info is misleading & its just bad advise. Read up on what happens if you do this and list the possible outcomes. ie-up to 50 % less yield(Weight) depending on when you do it and lose and airy Product/Bud. Theres Pro's & Cons using this tec & they should be considered before doing it.

Your other bit of bad advise was & quote:by Roortokeage:

Also James go to the aquarium store go get PH up and PH down. You can use both to lower or raise the PH level of the soil.

Now dude!!! Again this is a bit misleading. Are you sugesting that you mix PH up & PH down in the same mix. What i know of PH adjustment-you dont mix PH up & PH down in the same solution and maybe you should of mentioned this, thats if you knew this at all.

So you see my friend that was just in your last post, I dont want to be upsetting you but i think you should STOP handing out crappy advise-BECAUSE YOU AINT VERY GOOD AT IT!! But fair play to you for trying. I aint got a problem with you and i dont want NO bullshit arguement with you, whats that gonna get us?So Peace to you & be Lucky

Scroger!

Lets just be friends man ok!

 

[Mr.Meds]

you dont mix PH up & PH down in the same solution

True story, unless they've came out with a safe product you can do that with that we haven't seen.

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[Roortokeage]

ok screogger, here you go again, And I wont Hijack a thread either.

I gave the kid advice to go get solution. Now you can help adjust the tips I told him, tell him what to do with the PH solution. Did I say hey Mix both in the soil? Did I even say drop any in soil or in water NO! I simply said go to the aquarium store and go get yourself PH UP and PH Down. So again here you are throwing shit out in the air saying I am giving bad advice. Sorry scrogger, but no1 here is giving bad advice. We are simply telling the kid what to get, Im sure he has knowledge to get online a read a little too.

So if you see bad advice, not finished advice and could help.... WHY DONT YOU??? Why point someone out and say hey your wrong your giving the jkid bad adivce??? First I dont see any grows, journals or anything by you. You may have knowledge, PROVE IT! You dont know who I am or what I have done, or what is going on over here. I am knew to indoor and am a Guerilla Grower. So just because my shit ant the greatest I do know what I am talking about. Hey I got 1 ounce off a 10" plant. Did or can you?

So please sir, if you want to help the kid. Help the damn kid. Dont sit here and say this that or that. Its just getting real annoying and upsetting. Now you see why I get so mad and defensive. This is his grow post, not ours. We are here to do all the same thing. GROW WEED. So if your gunnna help, Help the kid. And better yet you can help me and show me what I am doing or saying wrong. Dont gotta take a knife and stick me with it. Thanks scrogger hope you understand and will listen.

Also with the light schedule, he is at the end of his grow. So you really think he is gunna lose 50% of his yeild?? I know alot about growing sir, and my grow club helps out too. The info I have or get, is from growers who I know, know what they are doing and will blow most of us out the water. I even have growers making there own strains. So really him putting more dark is just gunna finish the plant faster. And when giving advice or saying one is wrong, why dont you show or tell why they are wrong. Proof always help.

 

[Mr.Meds]

Hey James, How is this plant doing? Has that little brown/red/yellow tipped leave changed? I'll be waiting for the harvest and dried/cured pics!

 

[jamessedgewick]

Hey James, How is this plant doing? Has that little brown/red/yellow tipped leave changed? I'll be waiting for the harvest and dried/cured pics!

that is the one that now looks like this ....

seems like there is not much i can do at this point...

 

[Roortokeage]

Calcium Deficency. Go get some Cal-Mag I had the same issue.

Also do you know what the PH of the soil is?? It can also be Nute Lock out too.

How many days or weeks left??? and What are you feeding her?

 

[Scrogerman]

Ok Dude(edit) here you go:
http://www.icmag.com/ic/album.php?albumid=11451
http://www.icmag.com/ic/album.php?albumid=11576
http://www.icmag.com/ic/album.php?albumid=10928
http://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?t=148001

And heres my grow report for BB Chiesel 09':

http://www.icmag.com/modules/ICStrainguide/index.php?eop=showreport&id=149

Theres alot more to come i'm quite a new member but used to knock about on OG years ago ok bud
I asked to be your friend or you mine & you come on here spouting off and asking for credentials well here you go novice boy. Lets see your creds then Dude(edit). I sugest you take my request for friendship seriously & stop being a fktard making stupid arguments.
If your gonna hand out advice make it reliable advice & point out the Pro' & Cons if any, it will make your posts & info more reliable.
Dont talk to me about bullshit experience you aint got, yeah i have many years experience indoor-yields, i always hit well over a gram per watt ALWAYS, Check out my Albums there the pics speak for themselves.
Your picking on the wrong guy here buddy so shall we just leave it at that and get back to the point in hand, which as you've said is James's Thread. we were back on track untill your new attack on me. I will ask you again lets just be friends shall we?
Peace.....Scroger!
Ps i sugest you get your facts straight on the giving more hours of dark issue as you will find i am correct sir, dont care how much you or your growing club know on the subject if you want proof i will provide you with the appropriate info/links ok bud, i do sugest you research the point before arguing it with me as you will find i am correct. I have been in this game a long time & you'll find i am quite knowlegable on the science behind growing.

"I said" - depending on when you reduce light time hours will depend on how much you lose in weight, it will affect it even with 7-14 days left to go as in this case. and in my experience it makes lighter and airier buds! obviously he aint gonna lose 50% in this stage, i was just pointing out that reducing light hours will give loses of up to 50%(Thats a quote by Ed Rosenthal)btw! depending on when you reduce light hours dictates the loss.

 

[Mr.Meds]

I'm going to have to go with PH problems again.. Looks like from the epsom salts the ph went and stayed too low and I'm guessing that has resulted in a phosphorus deficiency.

 

[Roortokeage]

Ok Dude(edit) here you go:
http://www.icmag.com/ic/album.php?albumid=11451
http://www.icmag.com/ic/album.php?albumid=11576
http://www.icmag.com/ic/album.php?albumid=10928
http://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?t=148001

And heres my grow report for BB Chiesel 09':

http://www.icmag.com/modules/ICStrainguide/index.php?eop=showreport&id=149

Theres alot more to come i'm quite a new member but used to knock about on OG years ago ok bud
I asked to be your friend or you mine & you come on here spouting off and asking for credentials well here you go novice boy. Lets see your creds then Dude(edit). I sugest you take my request for friendship seriously & stop being a fktard making stupid arguments.
If your gonna hand out advice make it reliable advice & point out the Pro' & Cons if any, it will make your posts & info more reliable.
Dont talk to me about bullshit experience you aint got, yeah i have many years experience indoor-yields, i always hit well over a gram per watt ALWAYS, Check out my Albums there the pics speak for themselves.
Your picking on the wrong guy here buddy so shall we just leave it at that and get back to the point in hand, which as you've said is James's Thread. we were back on track untill your new attack on me. I will ask you again lets just be friends shall we?
Peace.....Scroger!
Ps i sugest you get your facts straight on the giving more hours of dark issue as you will find i am correct sir, dont care how much you or your growing club know on the subject if you want proof i will provide you with the appropriate info/links ok bud, i do sugest you research the point before arguing it with me as you will find i am correct. I have been in this game a long time & you'll find i am quite knowlegable on the science behind growing.

"I said" - depending on when you reduce light time hours will depend on how much you lose in weight, it will affect it even with 7-14 days left to go as in this case. and in my experience it makes lighter and airier buds! obviously he aint gonna lose 50% in this stage, i was just pointing out that reducing light hours will give loses of up to 50%(Thats a quote by Ed Rosenthal)btw! depending on when you reduce light hours dictates the loss.

Thanks again for the great work, No1 is picking on anyone but YOU! So one more time. I am here trying to help and learn. If I make a mistake, fix it or help the kid. No need to shoot me down or make sum1 look like a fool. And my facts are very accurate. I get them from my Grow Club and beleive all they say. Why becasue of what I have seen in there rooms, and the bud that I smoked.

 

[Scrogerman]

You wanna try having a bit of respect then dont you ok look at your quote here if that aint an attack on me then i dont know what is:
Quote:Roortokeage
So if you see bad advice, not finished advice and could help.... WHY DONT YOU??? Why point someone out and say hey your wrong your giving the jkid bad adivce??? First I dont see any grows, journals or anything by you. You may have knowledge, PROVE IT! You dont know who I am or what I have done, or what is going on over here. I am knew to indoor and am a Guerilla Grower. So just because my shit ant the greatest I do know what I am talking about. Hey I got 1 ounce off a 10" plant. Did or can you?

You asked me to point out if you were wrong or point out what bad advise you were giving-so i did, there is no need to take too much offence about it. You asked me to point it out so i did that is all.!!!!!

You are disrespectfull and get everything you deserve from me buddy, i give as good as i get. Lowering light hours and giving more dark will reduce yield and make airier buds -FACT, I'd say possibly upto 15%(5-15%) in this late stage ok, its still a loss. Its bad advise imo' Everyone is entitled to an opinion yip even you. But have a little respect will ya dude. i'm sure we can get along just fine if ya stop with ya bullshit an just be my friend ok dude!

Peace.......Scroger'

Ps If you cant say something in an honest and respectfull way stop addressing me or speaking to me & we'll leave it there ok.
My biggest yield off one plant is 8.5 oz by the way buddy! friends of mine have yielded over 12oz p/p so its no biggie!

 

[Scrogerman]

hey James i'd have to agree with MrMeds on this one dude. he is totally correct on the ph issue imo'. Flush to correct would be my only anwser to you at this point, i would of added mollasses to but that would of been a few days ago and that point is becoming less viable as the days pass. you go adding stuff like cal-mag you are gonna affect flavour of your final product quite alot ime.
G'Luck Buddy, & Peace to All ............Scroger'

 

[jamessedgewick]

seems weird that only one plant has done this when they have all had exactly the same diet. its sooo tempting to try and give it more nutes to right her, but i will resist the urge hahaha

 

[Mr.Meds]

Are they all the same age and LR#2? Does that pheno stick out from the rest? Are you positive you diluted the epsom salt 100%? If not then maybe that plant got more than the others. Can we see pictures of the girls of equal age and how they're looking?

 

[jamessedgewick]

they are all equal age and from the same packet. 3 seem to be the same pheno with the other being more of a bush. i only ever added a tiny amount of the salts a few times and tried to dilute totally.

 

[Scrogerman]

Hey dude i'm in the middle of a discussion on a similar issue in another thread.
Pheno Diversity usually comes into play, especially from seed stock. I Got 4 Bangin Pheno's & 4 that aint so hot, Couple of sensitive Biatch's in the mix too, so its always a case of finding a balance that they can all be comfortable with in terms of preferred PH, EC, Temps etc. Pisses me off sometimes as i know i could open up a little on the EC/TDS with the Dominant Pheno's but theres usually a couple of sensitives to consider if going from seed and with everything getting fed from the same Res it aint viable to push too hard an EC on your plants for the sake of a few Tree-like pheno's. Once you got your keepers none of it matters anyway, cause you know exactly what ya gonna get'.!!
Peace & Be-Lucky................Scroger'

 

[Roortokeage]

Hey dude i'm in the middle of a discussion on a similar issue in another thread.
Pheno Diversity usually comes into play, especially from seed stock. I Got 4 Bangin Pheno's & 4 that aint so hot, Couple of sensitive Biatch's in the mix too, so its always a case of finding a balance that they can all be comfortable with in terms of preferred PH, EC, Temps etc. Pisses me off sometimes as i know i could open up a little on the EC/TDS with the Dominant Pheno's but theres usually a couple of sensitives to consider if going from seed and with everything getting fed from the same Res it aint viable to push too hard an EC on your plants for the sake of a few Tree-like pheno's. Once you got your keepers none of it matters anyway, cause you know exactly what ya gonna get'.!!
Peace & Be-Lucky................Scroger'

You are correct I am sorry and apologize. I was having a bad day and took it out on you. Im sorry and do apologize

 

[Scrogerman]

You are correct I am sorry and apologize. I was having a bad day and took it out on you. Im sorry and do apologize

'No Worries Fella appologie accepted-no harm done buddy,Good luck to you & i hope we can be friends on IC.
Check out my Grow & tell me what you think!!
http://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?t=148001

'Peace & Luck to You !..................Scroger'

''''Lifes tooooo Short for Bollocks'''.....

 

[jamessedgewick]

going downhill fast

 

[Mr.Meds]

... Downhill is right. How does the older growth look? Is this the plant you cut the fan leaves off without chopping the stems? Try inspecting the plant for an infection over an open wound. Still kind of looks like a phosphorus issue, but coupled with something else. How many days from sprout is this again?