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Cannaloop haze & a few others by all accounts... this is the sad face of the new seed business...
marco renda pied @ htcc hahaha
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Marco Renda
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Well I would be more than happy to have my guy Harry Resin in Amsterdam meet up with you and he can do the write up. You have met him at Soma home.
Although I am the Publisher I am not as accomplished as a writer as Harry Resin.
I believed that Skunk Magazine did their research prior to publishing the article so that is why I myself didn't investigate it further.
If what was published was wrong than we will be more than happy to appologize.
Now the fact remains that you did lie to me about a few things when we spoke on the phone. So can you please tell me why you felt that there was a need to lie?
Take Care and Peace
Marco
This site is owned and run by the very man that DNA ripped off. They were given many seeds to start breeding with and then they turned around and pretended they were their own.
Marco, we have no use for DNA here nor anyone that defends them. Hell, Logic even canned them, so what does that tell you.
As for Sam, I'm the one that banned all of Jesse's handles when he was trying to print his garbage here. He even tried dragging GN into the mix. This is when he was with you and your mag. And I came to you and asked you regarding this, and you told me you had proof regarding Sam and the DEA, but when I asked you for this proof, you didn't have any to give me. That aggravates me. Now after reading all these pages of nothing all I see is you seem mad at Sam for doing something to some other magazine.
I think you're surrounding yourself with the wrong people for the wrong reasons. And I think it's going to get you. When I told you Jesse was spreading lies regarding GN, you didn't do anything to him, but yet attack Sam because you told me he lies.
I think you had good intentions originally, but somewhere you got involved in something for the wrong reasons. I also think your ships tetering, and that you need to do something before it turns over. But then again, who the fuck am I?
Marco, we have no use for DNA here nor anyone that defends them. Hell, Logic even canned them, so what does that tell you.
As for Sam, I'm the one that banned all of Jesse's handles when he was trying to print his garbage here. He even tried dragging GN into the mix. This is when he was with you and your mag. And I came to you and asked you regarding this, and you told me you had proof regarding Sam and the DEA, but when I asked you for this proof, you didn't have any to give me. That aggravates me. Now after reading all these pages of nothing all I see is you seem mad at Sam for doing something to some other magazine.
I think you're surrounding yourself with the wrong people for the wrong reasons. And I think it's going to get you. When I told you Jesse was spreading lies regarding GN, you didn't do anything to him, but yet attack Sam because you told me he lies.
I think you had good intentions originally, but somewhere you got involved in something for the wrong reasons. I also think your ships tetering, and that you need to do something before it turns over. But then again, who the fuck am I?
As I have explained to you many times I will not ever contribute an article to TY, never.
As for me lying as I explained in a PM to you, I don't think I did, you just misunderstood the discussion, I never contacted any seed companies about the Skunk article I only threatened to, but they backed off Joe and his articles and apologized for the story by Joe, and refused to run another planned story by Joe. So I did not try and ruin SKUNK, I did nothing. I just forgot it until you printed your much more poisonous version. If you think otherwise ask SKUNK they know what happened, they are who I talked to.
Anyway, maybe you have started to learn a valuable lesson about Joe, almost everyone that knows him for very long has issues with the guy, he is poison. By believing him you have gotten yourself and TY into hot water. If and when you ever admit the story was a collection of lies about me, how are you going to fix your mag's outing of my name? You can't and you know it, this is something that you can't fix and I have to suffer even if I am 100% innocent.
This is why I will never contribute an article to TY, your article has already caused me so much pain that I am sure you have no idea just how pissed I am.
Sic Harry Resin on Joe and ask him what he finds, if he is a reporter worth his salt, he will find a sick and twisted story with Joe in the middle.
And don't feel bad I have avoided all reporters for 25 years, I just don't want to be in dope mag's regardless if they are High Times or TY, I have zero interest in being in any of them and have avoided them like the plague. I do have this right, it is my life. I don't need to prove my innocence to anyone, I know the truth, and that is what is important to me.
Please find someone else to write about, at least until you find out if I ever sold all female seeds or taught other seed companies how to make them or not. I say I never did once. If you find my statement to be true then maybe just maybe you should check out the 12 lies in the accusations Joe made about me in issue 17 that I sent you a long time ago, I addressed each accusation, and denied a single one was true, I still say the very same thing today.
-SamS
Marco Renda
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Sam Skunk magazine published your name did they not? What was different from the original Skunk magazine article to the 1 printed in TY # 17? Please resend me that email which lists the 12 lies/accusations that you addressed as I can't seem to find it in my email history.
Take Care and Peace
Marco
Take Care and Peace
Marco
Marco Renda
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I called DNA this morning and spoke with A and he denies that they stole any genetics from anyone. I was told that there is NO TRUTH to any of the allegations which have been brought up.
The deal with Logic is another story.
Take Care and Peace
Marco
The deal with Logic is another story.
Take Care and Peace
Marco
keep up the great work marco happy holidaze
Obviously they would say that. Jeez.
Did you expect the phone call to go like this:
MR: Hey Aaron, I heard you bred C99 and named it Cannaloupe Haze. Also, theirs a rumor going around that you took Raco's cut and put out your own X18.
DnA: Yes, thats all true.
MR: Great. Mind if I tell the world that and ruin your seed company?
DnA: Not at all Marco. Go for it.
*shakes head*
Did you expect the phone call to go like this:
MR: Hey Aaron, I heard you bred C99 and named it Cannaloupe Haze. Also, theirs a rumor going around that you took Raco's cut and put out your own X18.
DnA: Yes, thats all true.
MR: Great. Mind if I tell the world that and ruin your seed company?
DnA: Not at all Marco. Go for it.
*shakes head*
to all seed buyers, caveat emptor!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Perhaps Sam should interview Harry Resin about DNA'a genetics j/k. Thanks to all that gave me good rep after marco gave me bad. Peace GS
DNA lied to you.
Absolutely they lied they sure would not tell the truth they would lose all there customers. I have herd of 2 they cheated there maybe more.
Well, I am very familiar with DNA's dealings with logic, and the guy who gave the x-18 to dna also gave it to logic, I saw and smoked that cut and it is absolutely superb in terms of taste, smell and high. Yield and vigour sucks, but if DC is the pinnacle of resin production then X-18 is the peak of daknity tasty kush.
DNA ain't stupid, they knew the X-18 was special and if crossed to some more productive strains could produce some very special plants.
What the morals are of taking a cut and breeding with it when the cut was discovered by someone else who had not given them permission to use it and had not given them it is open to debate, I don't know if you would call it outright theft, but it's definitely not nice.
logic did indeed can dna, and he had almost canned them many times before but kept giving them fresh chances. Eventually he had enough and canned them. One of the major beefs logic had was over them continually posting pictures of large outdoor and greenhouse crops and hash making runs and claiming they showed their work when in fact, the pics were of the work of reeferman and aqualab. When Aqualab and Aaron were friends, Aqua emailed Aaron the pics to show him what he had been upto, next thing, Aaron is using the pics and passing them off as showing his work.
DNA are total frauds, TOTAL frauds.
They were desperate last year as no-one was buying their seeds, they needed new varieties. I know they spent just about all of the available cash they had to buy seeds from reeferman when reef briefly returned to amsterdam to collect seeds he stashed there.
What dna got from reef I'm not sure, I think they then sent the seeds to their boy in Spain who produces all their seeds, they themselves do no actual seed making work - they are just frauds.
There is so much to tell about dna, they are shady characters indeed. logic was telling people at the htcc that dna beat him up and took his passport over some unsold seeds, apparently logic had got the police involved to get his passport back.
dna, logic, joe pietre, it's like a nightmare vision of a dope soap opera
I feel sorry for Sam Skunkman,dunno if I should, but I do
Marco just seems to be tarnishing his rep with all this, also sad
all this shit makes me sad.... time to smoke more dope!
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So where does Bubbleman figure in all of this, apart from being the sleeze who first posted the pie-ing video on his qik.com page. Was he not one of the folks who benefited financially out of all this, yet he now slinks in the shadows while Marco and SamS take the heat.
Thumbs down for Bubbleman in my books.
All I can say is that I now understand why Aussie breeders are so shy of genetics poachers from overseas!
Thumbs down for Bubbleman in my books.
All I can say is that I now understand why Aussie breeders are so shy of genetics poachers from overseas!
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Now who's the pot calling the kettle what. Not saying I support liars and cheats. You on the other hand, now have more proof about DNA than you did about the Icewars. Peace GS
Marco Renda
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So who is going to step up and write the article? Would be nice if it's someone with first hand information.
Marco
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As stated several times in this thread there is litigation going on about all this. I am sure Bubbleman's council would be telling him to stay out of any trouble till its all over. It seems to me that if what Sam says is correct, all this is mute. The lawsuit will be toast and you might have to find another place to hate man. Peace GS
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