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C Qual

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THCV is a cb1 antagonist. What's the cbd ratio of Ruderalis? I'm assuming also that more cbd's are always available in leaves, if you need some. and it is funny when I think about smoking cannabis by myself, alone, where only one hit is necessary and I add such a tiny amount of leaf to such an already tiny amount of bud....
Shaughnessy's talked about someone discovering that shade-grown med gets very high CBD's. What's the big deal if you can just add leaf for more cbd's. Maybe its just convenience. Taking nothing away from working with ruderalis. I'd love to do that, as well. Fertile birdseed CBD content? – higher than ruderalis?
 

Thule

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THCV is a cb1 antagonist. What's the cbd ratio of Ruderalis? I'm assuming also that more cbd's are always available in leaves, if you need some. and it is funny when I think about smoking cannabis by myself, alone, where only one hit is necessary and I add such a tiny amount of leaf to such an already tiny amount of bud....
Shaughnessy's talked about someone discovering that shade-grown med gets very high CBD's. What's the big deal if you can just add leaf for more cbd's. Maybe its just convenience. Taking nothing away from working with ruderalis. I'd love to do that, as well. Fertile birdseed CBD content? – higher than ruderalis?

I guess it depends on the type of ruderalis. Never saw one being tested but I'd assume between 2 and 5 % cbd.
Hemp usually has about 2% cbd, sometimes slightly more. Hemp leaf will have no effect on the high, and drug strain leaves have thc only. I've prolly smoked kilograms of that in my life :D it never counteracts the bud and sometimes has a good hit on itself.
 

Thule

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"..and drug strain leaves have thc only," ...really?

Yep. Them containing cbd is an urban legend only. Unless there is a research I don't know of? Leaves always give a full thc stone, I don't know why there would be cbd in them. I guess it has to do with the misconseption that cbd is turned into thc as the plant matures.
 
glad to hear first-hand accounts, thank you....so all Malawi weed is processed into cobs?....the cure is that important?

Also, what did you think of the weed itself in the different cobs...was it widely different weeds with different 'style' cobs or about the same weed with different 'cures'?
Not necessarily all in cobs. you can get it just in a big bag too if you are hooked up with the locals. the cobs are really just a packaging, at least in my experience when I was there. The weed was definitely different in at least that one type of cob, it was almost psychedelic vs the others I had smoked. Peter in Senga Bay got it from a special place :)
As for curing, my understanding is that they would bury it for some time, it was really really dry, all seeded and such...they would smoke it seeds and stems and all. Even the best of it wasnt cured well by what i would consider curing weed. but it was still outstanding :)
 

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Smoking seeds, that's pretty lazy. I know I smoked stems and seeds when I was younger.... and I still don't know why we'd do that...?
...I'm gonna try that again, and see what happens! I don't think I got paranoid until I started cleaning out the seeds and stems before I rolled a joint.
 

Thule

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"CBD (ranging from 0.01 to 0.94% of plant dry matter) was 10 to 20 times higher than other cannabinoids in all plant parts."

"The major hallucinogen, delta-9-THC, occurred in all plant parts and ranged from 0.0001 to 0.06% of plant dry matter (Fig 1b) in the time study."

These samples were taken from Kansas hemp, they aren't the psycho active type. It's misleading that they call it Kansas marijuana, but the study was done in 1975 when they didn't classify them as diffrent things. They claim that cbd is turned into thc, which we now know isn't true.
 

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:joint:A chemotaxonomic analysis of cannabinoid variation in Cannabis (Cannabaceae)1

Karl W. Hillig2 and Paul G. Mahlberg
Department of Biology, Indiana University, Bloomington, Indiana 47405 USA

Received for publication June 19, 2003. Accepted for publication February 12, 2004.

3rd paragraph:

Cannabinoids are terpenophenolic compounds unique to Cannabis. They are produced by glandular trichomes that occur on most aerial surfaces of the plant (Dayanandan and Kaufman, 1976 ;
 
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spliphy

good insight on traditional practices

good insight on traditional practices

Not necessarily all in cobs. you can get it just in a big bag too if you are hooked up with the locals. the cobs are really just a packaging, at least in my experience when I was there. The weed was definitely different in at least that one type of cob, it was almost psychedelic vs the others I had smoked. Peter in Senga Bay got it from a special place :)
As for curing, my understanding is that they would bury it for some time, it was really really dry, all seeded and such...they would smoke it seeds and stems and all. Even the best of it wasnt cured well by what i would consider curing weed. but it was still outstanding :)

Thanks villain...this is great to know....interesting on the stems and seeds:joint:

did you happen to see them smoke 'through the earth'...this is where they sort of hollow out a smoke passage in a bank of soil: on top of the bank is where the herb goes while smoke is drawn from the side of the bank...these 'pipes' sometimes were quite long...it cooled the smoke is my understanding:joint:

all the best
 

Thule

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:joint:A chemotaxonomic analysis of cannabinoid variation in Cannabis (Cannabaceae)1

Karl W. Hillig2 and Paul G. Mahlberg
Department of Biology, Indiana University, Bloomington, Indiana 47405 USA

Received for publication June 19, 2003. Accepted for publication February 12, 2004.

3rd paragraph:

Cannabinoids are terpenophenolic compounds unique to Cannabis. They are produced by glandular trichomes that occur on most aerial surfaces of the plant (Dayanandan and Kaufman, 1976 ;

Sure there are minute amounts of cbd in all parts of the cannabis plant, except for the roots. The amounts are so low that they will have no effect what so ever. There still is more cbd in the buds than in the leafs.
 

Londinium

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Yeah not all good Malawi comes in Cobs(the rubber band ones were good when I was there also {but never saw them outside of Malawi like the string-tied stuff,}as were some wrapped in different, greener leaves that weren't corn,any ideas anyone?).Its easy to get Malawi in big bags from growers Locally or in Bricks locally or down in SA(Got a good block Kilo of her {bloody cheap,like 50quid to me then}in the Wine area somewhere near Stellenbosch after a dodgy meeting with slightly scary fella's,It was weirdly very fresh and darkish green and loads of crystals but quite seedy).To be honest I don't like the(non)cure of most Cobs,too dry and too brown when decent and Mouldy and disgusting when bad. Funnily enough tho' I do like the way some of the best DP I had was cured in those little wrap's. Some of the strongest I tried were almost black and so sticky it was like they had oil on them(maybe they did?).If that was down to the processing then I'd like to know more about why its like that. Like smoking strong hash almost.I'll never forget first time I tried those wraps I almost felt sick and it gave me worst munchies ever! But what a soaring buzz and one-off flavour..... JBo ;] p.s. never saw the underground pipe thing sonds cool,everyone seemed to use neck of broken glass bottles(like a chillum with a stone in bottom) or roll spliffs!!
 

Thule

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Yeah not all good Malawi comes in Cobs(the rubber band ones were good when I was there also {but never saw them outside of Malawi like the string-tied stuff,}as were some wrapped in different, greener leaves that weren't corn,any ideas anyone?)quote]

Perhaps banana leaves? Have to try that method next summer. I wonder if it needs the African climate to work though..
 
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