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Anyone else finding it impossible to find a decent job?

im glad im not the only one. ive been out of work for almost a year now...i live in a town with 30,000 people and have applied at like 50 places and NO CALLS BACK. even if i get one of these shit jobs, i wont make enough to move out, and my parents want to kick me out since i dont have a job and they dont believe me the job market is bad since they own their own business. they even offered me a job with them again, but theres no work so i end up doing odds and ends for a couple hours a week...i dont know what to do, but i am very glad that i know how to grow because i think if shit really hits the fan it might save me..
good luck everyone!
 
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The worst part is the guilt. The pain of sleeping in your car in cold weather(which I've done)is nothing compared to calling your mom and hearing how hard she's worked all week.
 

Yes4Prop215

Active member
Veteran
craigslists has given me cars, apartments, and jobs. craigslist kicks ass & helped me succeed, so far, as hilarious as that may sound.

yea i have paid my rent through craigslist car flipping for a few years now, im on that site almost everyday. but for trying to sell herbs i think its a pretty bold idea. you could definately meet some cool people but the risks of running into a narco are somewhat high.
 
Dude... 9 years ago anyone who wanted a job could get one...
Two republican terms later, the whole country is in the shitter...
It is not hard to figure out who's policies got us here...

Blaming the administration which has been in power for less than one year, for a trainwreck 8 years in the making is foolish.

Whoa don't get so defensive. The money really started flowing when Congress went blue, forced banks into horrible mortgages, and created a huge line of toxic assets. Bush did spend a lot of money, and I'm not here to defend him. However, Obama has out-spent the history of our nation in less than one term. And in doing so, granting gigantic interest payments ($9 trillion or so) to the chinese for "stimulus"...

If you want to talk economics, I'm game. I've got a degree in it. If you want to talk ignorant, dogmatic talking points, then I'm sure you can pick a fight with many others. The facts remain: the current administration has done nothing but dig a bigger ditch.

My generation bought into "Hope, Change, Transparency". We've got record level lobbyists in the WH, and 38 "czars" mandating secret government policy without our knowledge. I'm fed with all politicians, red, blue, white, whoever. I want a damned job. I want to contribute to society. The economy deserves actual attention. We don't want cooked-up job numbers; numbers that any american can clearly see past. If we keep spending like we are, the recovery is going to be one long, painful charade.
 
agreed, its just proof that it doesnt matter who is in office, the president doesnt control shit. its the illusion of choice. i cant believe more people arent pissed about the bank and auto bailouts.....
 
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agreed, its just proof that it doesnt matter who is in office, the president doesnt control shit. its the illusion of choice. i cant believe more people arent pissed about the bank and auto bailouts.....
It's a question of apathy and perspective. 99.99999999999% of us have roughly zero power for change. Why waste energy shaking your fist at a system that is so thoroughly gone, corrupt, and broken?

IMO it's best to just live your own life, throw your two cents in at the latest batch of bullshit for kicks, and not worry about it so much.
 

Grat3fulh3ad

The Voice of Reason
Veteran
Whoa don't get so defensive. The money started flowing when Congress went blue, forced banks into horrible mortgages, and created a huge line of toxic assets. Bush did spend a lot of money, and I'm not here to defend him. However, Obama has out-spent the history of our nation in less than one term. And in doing so, granting gigantic interest payments ($9 trillion or so) to the chinese for "stimulus"...

If you want to talk economics, I'm game. I've got a degree in it. If you want to talk ignorant, dogmatic talking points, then I'm sure you can pick a fight with many others. The facts remain: the current administration has done nothing but dig a bigger ditch.

Any administration who's policies give corporations more rights and protections than citizens is absolutely heading us in the wrong direction... I agree the current administration should have done a complete about face from the failed bush administration policies...

As far as arguing economics... I could care less about theory... I like to base my opinions on what has actually happened...

Give a democrat administration 8 years and budget get's balanced, and everyone works...
Give a republican administration 8 or 12 years and the country is in dire straights...
I've seen it cycle several times in my life....
Times get hard, the country votes in a Dem to bail us out.... Times get good, people get greedy, they vote in a republican... The country gets run into the ground, the very rich get richer everyone else gets poorer, times get rough, the people vote in a dem to bail them out...

The first couple of years of a democratic administration are always rough as they sort our the problems created in the previous one...
 

ItsAllOver

Devil's Advocate
I haven't read through this thread yet, but I will offer my suggestion.

You are on a cannabis cultivation themed website, you need money, cannabis cultivation is profitable, so do what logically follows.

Start a small grow and work your way up. The amazing thing about cannabis cultivation is that you will have growth rates in the size of your operation that dwarf many legal business ventures because of the amount of revenues brought in compared to the cost of investment in equipment. You can start with a 600w setup or even smaller and with a 10 oz harvest (low end if you're smart), make at least 3k to reinvest into more equipment.
Shit, if you are jobless and just out of college, a 600W grow could make you enough loot to pay a small amount of bills by itself if you run a perpetual setup!
But with reinvestment of profits you can have a 4kW op within 12 months easily. Run that for one year, getting .75 gpw or ~6.5 lbs per grow. Sell for $4k each, you've got yourself $26k each grow. 4 grows in that year and you've made yourself $100k, enough money to start a nice small business. And during the last 2 years of making that $, you were living well enough, too.
Of course I am leaving out the interesting part of making the money usable, but you are clever, you'll work that out.
It's doable, guys.

Good wishes to you. I hope you find whatever you are looking for. I think this is a time for entrepreneurship, as much as it might not seem to be. Just got to know what industries to get into!
 

THC123

Active member
Veteran
i would never start cultivating commercially.

Not because i have moral rejections:D

But because i wanna be at ease , plus once you get a criminal record it is hard finding a job. So that's why i won't do it untill it is really legal.
 

ItsAllOver

Devil's Advocate
Dude... 9 years ago anyone who wanted a job could get one...
Two republican terms later, the whole country is in the shitter...
It is not hard to figure out who's policies got us here...

Blaming the administration which has been in power for less than one year, for a trainwreck 8 years in the making is foolish.

Man oh man are you oversimplifying the problem here.
It is the combination of democratic entitlement policies and government moral hazard creation (fannie and freddie are from Clinton) and republican war-funding and bank regulation avoidance that have got us here. ENOUGH OF THE PARTISAN SHIT PEOPLE! We need to understand that this is not that easy, and dividing on party lines is a major part of the reason that the majority of Americans are blind to what is really happening.
It's not hard to point out things that the current admin is fucking up without placing the entire blame for the mess on them.
 

Yes4Prop215

Active member
Veteran
You would actually off yourself if you got busted growing?Bullshit man thats all I can say what a stupid thing to think much less say..You know if you had to do a little time you probably wouldn't survive it because you are not mentally strong enough.Kill myself lol I can't get over such bullshit!

For real, growing aint shit!! unless you are runnin a freakin warehouse most first timers get off easy, shit i know folks who got caught with seven pounds and only did 10 months lol. its only a year or two and you dont go to san quentin haha, and ive been there and i honestly didnt think it was thhaat bad, just stay away from the white power mother fuckers. if you are not latino you dont have to worry because they keep all the nortes/surs seperated. aside from that most of the black folks care more about Allah than trying to rape you.



but yo back on topic, i HATE jobs. fucking interviews, kissing your boss's ass, idiot coworkers, plus my criminal record pretty much garuntees i will never find a decent job even with my bachelors degree. i sell fucking cars for a living haha.

i sent in a couple resumes yesterday for warehouse inventory jobs paying around 35-45 a year but i already make aroudn 30 a year growing/selling so whats the point! you dont need to make 100k a year to be happy, just get your bills paid and live within your means!
 
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I haven't read through this thread yet, but I will offer my suggestion.

You are on a cannabis cultivation themed website, you need money, cannabis cultivation is profitable, so do what logically follows.

Start a small grow and work your way up. The amazing thing about cannabis cultivation is that you will have growth rates in the size of your operation that dwarf many legal business ventures because of the amount of revenues brought in compared to the cost of investment in equipment. You can start with a 600w setup or even smaller and with a 10 oz harvest (low end if you're smart), make at least 3k to reinvest into more equipment.
Shit, if you are jobless and just out of college, a 600W grow could make you enough loot to pay a small amount of bills by itself if you run a perpetual setup!
But with reinvestment of profits you can have a 4kW op within 12 months easily. Run that for one year, getting .75 gpw or ~6.5 lbs per grow. Sell for $4k each, you've got yourself $26k each grow. 4 grows in that year and you've made yourself $100k, enough money to start a nice small business. And during the last 2 years of making that $, you were living well enough, too.
Of course I am leaving out the interesting part of making the money usable, but you are clever, you'll work that out.
It's doable, guys.

Good wishes to you. I hope you find whatever you are looking for. I think this is a time for entrepreneurship, as much as it might not seem to be. Just got to know what industries to get into!
Great post. Thing is, though, how many more years of this do we have? 2 or 3? More? With the movement winning, as great as it is, the prices are going to drop soon aren't they?
 

Yes4Prop215

Active member
Veteran
Man oh man are you oversimplifying the problem here.
It is the combination of democratic entitlement policies and government moral hazard creation (fannie and freddie are from Clinton) and republican war-funding and bank regulation avoidance that have got us here. ENOUGH OF THE PARTISAN SHIT PEOPLE! We need to understand that this is not that easy, and dividing on party lines is a major part of the reason that the majority of Americans are blind to what is really happening.
It's not hard to point out things that the current admin is fucking up without placing the entire blame for the mess on them.

yup partisan is BS, its the governments secret little method to keeping us docile. its not about the red or blue, both republicans and democrats are evil. what the country needed was Ron fucking Paul, he had the right idea.
 

thekingofNY

Cannasseur
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Give a democrat administration 8 years and budget get's balanced, and everyone works...
Give a republican administration 8 or 12 years and the country is in dire straights...
...

Stop playing the blame game.

Anyone that has lost their job and is collecting UE. Start a grow. Move first if you have to. By the time the UE runs out if you got a decent thumb, everything should be self sufficient. Getting started is expensive, but if you budget the ue checks... it can be done. If you dont know alot about growing just start with one light first and work your way up. At the very least you will save 400$ a month from not buying it. Depending on how much you both smoke.

This is much easier to do if you have 2 peoples income in the house, and not both of them loose their job at the same time.
 
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The BEST investment you can make in the job hunt is to pay a professional resume writer, or learn how to write a good resume and cover letter. You need to learn how to market yourself, and apply for jobs that you would normally be afraid of applying for.

One thing I've always found amusing is that people who don't have a degree or who don't feel qualified will not apply to a job that asks for a degree, and so the ones that DO apply have a much higher chance of getting the job.

You need to get your foot in the door, and I'm not saying to LIE on your resume, but you do need to make yourself look good. An employer has to sift through hundreds of resumes and you need to learn how to get their attention.
I disagree. In my experience most worthwhile employers are "on" to the game of superficial eloquence on a piece of paper. I had my university doll up my resume my senior year, failed pretty resoundingly, then shortened it myself to just the basics. I don't even list references, it's "upon request." I think it shows more respect for the interviewers intelligence and time to not list every attribute your mother thought was special.

I can't speak to shit yet because I'm still unemployed, but I've gotten more leads. I'm in the 2nd round of interviews right now for a govt job.
 

Yes4Prop215

Active member
Veteran
Great post. Thing is, though, how many more years of this do we have? 2 or 3? More? With the movement winning, as great as it is, the prices are going to drop soon aren't they?

yea the MMJ has a few people worried, once the government wises up to the amount of untaxed cash they are missing out on alot of us growers might be out of a job.


the thing is, even if its legalized in california, other states still wont have it. you just gotta find untapped markets and shoot all your product there. no point in selling locally anymore to some lowballers/.
 

Kiffen

Member
But I was always told that it was a good thing when prices and wages are driven by market forces like supply and demand.... We are, as employees, simply another commodity rich people trade in, after all...

Is that why they call that office "Human Resources"? Don't get me started on those worthless bottom sucking creative anti-matter office party happy soul leaching cubicle overlords. I blame Political correctness, fraternal elite-ism, uneducated voting on this entire debacle. Those of us who are Americans need to kick some ass in our own backyard to fix this. Between Washington and the activities of some of the rich, its time to unleash the pimp hand on these chaps.

I think at this point it is up to the individual to do the best they can to improve themselves and their condition. Improvise. The more people do this the better things will get for all. There is only so much a unemployment check can do for so long and with no jobs, and the situation getting worse.....The other option is quite simply unacceptable.

Its pretty clear to me at this point that the vast majority of the people working in the upper levels of elected government either do not get it; or are actively attempting to make it worse. I would say this behavior is active on both sides of the isle and must be stopped through the use of votes and the jury box.

This is far from over, do not give up.
 

Gebr'el

Member
i gotta to agree with ya on that one ItsAllOver......gotta grow them money trees. ganja has bailed me outta so many situations before, i gotta get that ball rolling again myself. just gotta make sure security is tight and not get caught with pants down and if its run smart, i could be the proverbial "ace the hole". take care all and put them skills to work.
 
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Till you go to jail.
True but when I'm paying an ungodly amount for electricity combined with incredible cost of living all to maybe get four if it turns out beautiful...when I could easily get 5500-6 in the midwest with electricity costs of about a third what it is here...

I don't think there is a right answer. Something to consider either way.
 

Grat3fulh3ad

The Voice of Reason
Veteran
I'm not playing any blame game.
I'm not even concerned personally with unemployment rates, I've been self-employeed in some fashion or another through the last three presidents... I'm not really affected much either way... I don't think I've spent more than a week involuntarily unemployed in 25+ years...

I'm just stating my observations.
 

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