Busted at London UK Airport

[Sleepy]

glad to hear you will not rot in a jail without anyone knowing about it.

if you were arrested here, you would have got thrown in jail. card or not.

enjoy the rest of your trip.

 

[PharmaCan]

Chimera - Here in California you don't get a prescription, you get a recommendation. It may be just a question of semantics, but there is a difference between the two. Too bad you can't remember the name of the treaty. It'd be interesting to see exactly how it is worded.

PC

 

[Grat3fulh3ad]

Chimera - Here in California you don't get a prescription, you get a recommendation. It may be just a question of semantics, but there is a difference between the two. Too bad you can't remember the name of the treaty. It'd be interesting to see exactly how it is worded.

PC

It is not just a question of semantics...

The med state laws in the US allow use under a doctors "recommendation" because if a doctor were to "prescribe" a drug which is illegal under federal law, and not approved by the FDA, then the prescribing doctor would be subject to prosecution and loss of medical license.

It is a distinction which was made to protect doctors, unfortunately it offers none of the federal or international protection to the patient that a prescription would.

 

[pthway4]

Yep you heard it right. While waiting for my morning flight from London to Amsterdam I was pulled aside by the London Airport Customs / Police. It seems that they are now scanning all luggage and detected my medicine in my checked baggage. When they took me down to the customs area there was my bag torn apart and my meds laying on the table along with all the other stuff that I picked up from the UK Hemp Expo. To make a long story short I was released and allowed to go on my way but I missed my flight and so the customs agent took me to the airline counter and they put me onto the next flight to Amsterdam. I had a little over 55 grams with me in my baggage as I was planning on entering the Afghani Bullrider into this years HTCC which will now have to wait till next year. I believe what saved my ass from being taken to jail was my Health Canada Exemption. The customs officer did say that there was no sort of medical program in the UK but he simpathized with me and even went as far as to appologize for having to take away my medicine. So if you are planning to travel to the UK be sure NOT to take any MMJ with you.
Take Care and Peace
Marco

Be glad it didn't happen in the "Land of the Free, Home of the incarcerated!!!"

 

[Dr Dog]

Thats sucks bro

I had them go through my bags on my last flight. Luckily, I had nothing in there, just a note from the department of homeland security that they did it, and they won't replace my luggage lock.

Hopefully the rest of trip goes well

And Happy Birthday

 

[Marco Renda]

It is not just a question of semantics...

The med state laws in the US allow use under a doctors "recommendation" because if a doctor were to "prescribe" a drug which is illegal under federal law, and not approved by the FDA, then the prescribing doctor would be subject to prosecution and loss of medical license.

It is a distinction which was made to protect doctors, unfortunately it offers none of the federal or international protection to the patient that a prescription would.

In Canada the dr perscribes a daily dosage. My perscription is for 26 gr per day. Now I DON'T smoke 26 gr per day but I sure do use 26 gr per day. I eat, vape, smoke my mmj!

In Canada you just can't go into a dr office a pay them $150 and get a recommendation like you can in California. It's like looking for a needle in a hay stack to find a dr who is willing to sign the Health Canada forms.

I understand that rules and regulations for medical marijuana vary from state to state. It would suck being in a medical state and travelling to a non medical state and getting caught. The feds really need to get their head out of their ass and just LEGALIZE

Take Care and Peace
Marco

Take Care and Peace
Marco

 

[Marco Renda]

Thats sucks bro

I had them go through my bags on my last flight. Luckily, I had nothing in there, just a note from the department of homeland security that they did it, and they won't replace my luggage lock.

Hopefully the rest of trip goes well

And Happy Birthday

Thanks! I know that celebrating my 50th birthday in Amsterdam is going to be a BLAST!!! Wish you were able to join me in the festivites

Take Care and Peace
Marco

 

[Dr Dog]

next year brother

and you know what would have happened, I would have had my shit searched too. I am sure they would not be as forgiving to a DG

 

[Marco Renda]

next year brother

and you know what would have happened, I would have had my shit searched too. I am sure they would not be as forgiving to a DG

Hey you would have bipassed the UK as I was here for the weekend at the UK Hemp Expo. Next year I myself will bypass London and just go directly to Amsterdam! Funny thing was that they didn't search my bags coming into the UK just leaving it.

Take Care and Peace
Marco

 

[Grat3fulh3ad]

In Canada the dr perscribes a daily dosage. My perscription is for 26 gr per day. Now I DON'T smoke 26 gr per day but I sure do use 26 gr per day. I eat, vape, smoke my mmj!

In Canada you just can't go into a dr office a pay them $150 and get a recommendation like you can in California. It's like looking for a needle in a hay stack to find a dr who is willing to sign the Health Canada forms.

I understand that rules and regulations for medical marijuana vary from state to state. It would suck being in a medical state and travelling to a non medical state and getting caught. The feds really need to get their head out of their ass and just LEGALIZE

Take Care and Peace
Marco

Take Care and Peace
Marco

What legally makes the difference is wether or not the doctor wrote out a prescription. the difference is about the legal document. of course one can make the semantics argument (in a forum, not in court), but what I was talking about was US law.

Perhaps in Canada doctors can legally write out a prescription for MMJ, I am unfamiliar with Canadian law.

In the United States there is no such thing as a legal prescription for marijuana. there is a legal recommendation. Since MMJ is governed by states, and cannabis is illegal on a federal level, the states had to come up with a system to keep doctors from loosing their licenses.

If Canada's laws are set up so that cannabis is a legally prescribable pharmaceutical...

pharmaceutical |ˌfärməˈsoōtikəl|
adjective
of or relating to medicinal drugs, or their preparation, use, or sale.

Then the international treaty would apply.

However if the 'legal apparatus' which allows MMJ patients to use cannabis is different from the standard 'legal apparatus' of prescription drugs... then you'd have a very difficult time arguing that the treaty applied....

That's all I'm saying...

And you are of course right, in that the US federal government needs to completely legalize cannabis.

 

[Researcher]

You would have been F***ked in Amerika!

 

[Shred42O]

not if it was cali
we have some weed friendly airports

 

[elmanito]

I would also suggest flying direct to Amsterdan next time. I have crossed customs in Schipol with plant products, seeds, etc, and not once was I stopped for questioning.... they put my bag right through the scanner and let me on my way. I also know others who have gone through Schipol with boxes of clones.

Chimera - i dont know in what year we talking about that this happend, but it would surprise me that nowadays the Dutch customs will allow you to bring in clones in a box.Seeds is no problem at all, unless they are listed on the CITES list, but Cannabis seeds is no problem.They are not so tolerant anymore nowadays for plant parts like cuttings or marihuana.

Namaste

 

[elmanito]

Bringing with you 55 grams of MMJ to the Netherlands could also give problems at the customs control post when they ask you for searching your bag, suitcase what ever.

It would be wise next time to go to the embassy of the countries you are passing or go to for a special document which allow you to have a certain amount of a controlled substance when it is for medical use.

Namaste

 

[keeper]

Try this trick in Dubai
Nice attempt Marco, i would be to scared for my freedom to attempt such a trick. Now smuggling !! that i could get into
stay safe friend...

 

[LolaGal]

I bet there is a customs agent toking on some Bullrider as we speak! I bet they were motivated to confiscate your weed cause it looked so good. So they let you go so they didn't have to turn it in.... heehee.

be on the lookout for a new smoke report on Bullrider...hahahaha

 

[Green Supreme]

It is these types of manipulation of the med system, that make a mockery of it. Peace GS

 

[trouble]

But what strikes me odd is that I was leaving the country so you would have thought that they would be more interested in people entering the UK not leaving it!

I have found through personal experience, that ever since 9/11 you never know what to expect from customs and airport security.

Back in 06, I flew into Heathrow the day after a terrorist plot to blow-up transatlantic flights was foiled by the UK authorities, and that particular day airport security was clearly interested in both arriving & departing passengers. It took hours to clear customs that day, and I took a nearly identical flight through Heathrow back in September of this year, and cleared customs in a matter of minutes.

Over the years, I've seen some strange things in airports, however, nothing as strange as that day at Heathrow back in 06. We came in on United in Terminal 1, and had to switch to British Midland in a different terminal for our flight to Belfast. There were lines of people 1/2 mile long outside of buildings, they took everyones carry-ons and there were literally tens-of-thousands of bags piled-up all over the airport, mass mountians of tooth-paste piled-up on the floors, along with other items they took out of peoples bags.

The entire experience was appalling beyond belief. And to make matters worse, they made everyone empty their pockets into a clear plastic bag, and you had to carry it through the airport, and everyone could see what you had in your pockets. I had my phone, wallet, passport, several loose valiums, and a somewhat sweaty handkerchief in my pockets. Nothing I was worried about others seeing, however, it felt like an intrusion of ones privacy.

Sorry to hear they took your weed. I'm sure those custom agents enjoyed your Bullrider!

 

[Researcher]

Yes, worring about exploding toothpaste and such keeps me up nights.

 

[BiG H3rB Tr3E]

Sorry to hear of your little glitch Marco, hope Dam makes it all better

When you say "the customs agent took me to the airline counter and they put me onto the next flight to Amsterdam" Do you mean that you did not have to pay any extra ? Customs will arrange for you to get another flight even though it is your fault they detained you ? I hope so, getting bummed hundreds of ££s by the Airline, as well as loosing your stash and entry would really suck.




I seem to remember UK Customs allow quite a lot as "personal" before they try to get you for distribution. A Kilo or two springs to mind, plenty of people go on holiday and buy more of the cheap local gear than they can smoke, and then get tempted to bring a bit back "just for themselves"....

I remember coming back from the dam and switching planes in washington dc. They pulled a few of us out of line and made us wait in a second line to have our luggage inspected. Now at this point im starting to hope that some how some hash reminents hadnt made it on to a piece of clothing warranting the search. Anyway as soon as they pull us aside, 2 of the 3 inspectors take off for lunch leaving 1 person to clear about 15 passengers through a detailed inspection. Little to say all of us missed the flight and the airlines put us on the next flight, however the next flight was something like eight hours away, so it was a fun layover.

Glad to hear they let you go marco. Sometimes its not always so easy. I cant wait to arrive in the dam, should be arriving saturday morning clearing no unexpected circumstances. Cannabis cup 2009 yall. happy trails. --BhT