Why is medical marijuana so expensive?

[Blue Dot]

Most people are totally incapable of any original thoughts and they are the "worker bees" but of course not only mexicans, everyone. Most people should be happy that some go out of their way to achieve success and establish industry or trade that leads to employment. But my point would be at the very least, you must factor in all costs of materials and labor and incidentals. Then an appropriate pay for the skilled master gardners.. . Because "Quality comes ONLY from the personal connection of skilled growers." The best of the best indoor/greenhouse grown medicinal grade would be minimum $50 per ounce. I mean goddamn dude what about trimming the shit? It takes 4-8 hours per pound to trim pot and machines will NEVER be able to do a connoiseur grade trimming job! Americans have forgotten what a real wage was, it must pay enough for housing and food and living costs as well as savings/entertainment/personal things. At the end user stage it should be subsidized by insurance I agree.

Just saw that greyskull actually put in some numbers and gave us a real world figure to work with. I think I know my shit now point proven.

You guys are missing the point.

The only reason someone would get $40/hr is because it's illegal.

How do I know this? Because I have worked in the "legit" (for lack of a better term) horticultural industry for the last 22 years and I know all kinds of growers from Dracaenas to orchids and NONE of the laborers get paid anywhere near $40/hr.

The all make under $20/hr (a lot under $10/hr) and they have the best quality in the world at what they do.

Most indoor plants you buy at Home Depot are grown in Hawaii and though it's not illegal mexicans growing them it's poor Hawaiians (same difference).

 

[Blue Dot]

And $32.14 an hour couldn't buy shit for a house in San Diego. Blue Dot will give him a house from the socialist / collectivist whole I guess.

Peace,

lol, you think the laborers OWN houses? LOL, they live at the greenhouses, INSIDE them. yoinks that way the employer gets a two-fer, extra security at night!

Wake up.

 

[FreedomFGHTR]

Yeah..right next to Sacramento...well, to be fair...maybe Washington DC also!!
Really man...you are sticking up for the real crooked fucker's, when you keep on about, "The Law says this..." and "They deserved it..because the Law clearly states..."
But whatever...I guess everyone needs a Team to be on....
(BTW...if it isn't like that, you should maybe quit making it look like it is--)

Yup Sacramento city officials are mostly bought out by special interests already.

 

[WokkaWokka!]

Not talking about the laborers, you are one dense headed marxist-leaning bugger.

Also, the $40 reflects a PAY of around $20 per hour + the expenses and incidentals associated with a job.

You are one dense headed s.o.b. and you have definite marxist leanings. You think that people should live at their place of work to justify low pay?

I don't want to get to nastiness because this is a really interesting an important topic, with cannabis being mainstreamed as we speak! The market is totally shifting and I don't know where it will end up. I'm just happy to have enough land in one of california's most productive ag zones to grow 3 or 4 acres of cannabis if I were allowed to. If it becomes totally legal like wine is then I could still run a small business of it.

 

[Greyskull]

whats funny is the grow my friend is doing is completely legal.

 

[Hydrosun]

whats funny is the grow my friend is doing is completely legal.

Completely? Really I'm ready to paypal an OZ or two of the best shit, what's the website?

Peace,

 

[Greyskull]

there is no website that i am aware of.
just really expensive lawyers and staying within a defined bounds is what i understand.
my friend pretty much does as he's told but from what i understand the folks he working with are very connected politically (and we all know its not what you know its who you know).

 

[Blue Dot]

You think that people should live at their place of work to justify low pay?

No I don't but that's the reality here in SD. Like I said it's hard for people to understand unless you've seen it with your own eyes.

like I said, an ad in SD craigslist for $40/hr would get you laughed at.

Even $20/hr.

greyskull, your boy lucked into a couple of rich stoners. lol

 

[FreedomFGHTR]

Completely? Really I'm ready to paypal an OZ or two of the best shit, what's the website?

Peace,

You won't be able to do paypal.

Paypal, the well-known internet payment company has told California NORML that it will no longer accept payments to our “type of business” because we accept listing payments from cannabis-recommending physicians.

They definatly wont let ya sell weed.

 

[Blue Dot]

Ebay bought up paypal and ebay is seriously anti-pot.

Fuk you Meg Whitman for gov. lol

 

[WokkaWokka!]

Your sig line is totally moronic. A factual statement is

Free enterprise and fair pay creates a bounty of crops for us, including cannabis.

Communists can eat taters, and smoke low quality cannabis.

 

[Blue Dot]

Free enterprise and fair pay creates a bounty of crops for us, including cannabis.

There can never be FREE enterprise when something is illegal.

 

[Pythagllio]

headband707, WTF are you blathering on about? I don't own any clubs. If you'd followed along you'd have read that I haven't even been in one since early 2007, when I was sold a lifetime supply of cannabis for less than $100. Wow, what a bunch of gouging profiteers, I guess I should have whined that my lifetime supply should have cost less than $50, lol.

I just object to the repeated, dishonest, misrepresentation that you and your friends keep spewing. I don't expect you to stop being dishonest, and you shouldn't expect me to stop calling you out on it.

 

[Pythagllio]

Will you PLEASE stop spouting this BS.

I have already rebutted in two previous threads that the "third party auditor" thinks that millions are put back into the corporation as "yoga" so obviously that third party auditor, just like everyone else in oakland, is not to be trusted.

Please, you really think the rest of us in CA believe a word that comes out of oakland?

I'm pretty sure it's the most corrupt city in the US.

Your rebuttals are bullshit. You have an agenda, an no amount of factual evidence is going to change your mind. What you actually did rather than rebut the thought that 3rd party auditors are not to be trusted is to show that you're not persuaded by facts, since I posted that up in response to your demand that----club be audited by a 3rd party auditor. You're posts are hypocrisy in action.

 

[Pythagllio]

Will you PLEASE stop spouting this BS.

I have already rebutted in two previous threads that the "third party auditor" thinks that millions are put back into the corporation as "yoga" so obviously that third party auditor, just like everyone else in oakland, is not to be trusted.

Please, you really think the rest of us in CA believe a word that comes out of oakland?

I'm pretty sure it's the most corrupt city in the US.

Your rebuttals are bullshit. You have an agenda, an no amount of factual evidence is going to change your mind. What you actually did rather than rebut the thought that 3rd party auditors are not to be trusted is to show that you're not persuaded by facts, since I posted that up in response to your demand that----club be audited by a 3rd party auditor. Then you demonstrate that once you get what you demand, you just call them dishonest with absolutely no basis in fact. Your posts are hypocrisy in action.

 

[chef]

True quality will save some of the smaller growers, not without some branding & basic biz savvy tho.

 

[Blue Dot]

What you actually did rather than rebut the thought that 3rd party auditors are not to be trusted is to show that you're not persuaded by facts,

Of course I'm not persuaded by "facts" if the "facts" that a third party auditor lists are millons of dollars going towards "yoga" for the club members.

How stupid do these auditors think we are?

 

[zenoonez]

Of course I'm not persuaded by "facts" if the "facts" that a third party auditor lists are millons of dollars going towards "yoga" for the club members.

How stupid do these auditors think we are?

Any mom and pop place can do millions in revenue a year, doesn't make them rich and doesn't fucking matter anyway. It should be legal, no non profit bullhockey needed.

 

[BonsaiBud]

Why is medical marijuana so expensive?

A: Because you are not growing it yourself.

Ask yourself this: what would marijuana cost in a free market (less tobacco-like tax b/c it is medical) where marijuana is completely legal?
A: People would grow it in greenhouses with pollen filters and fans on the intake. It would cost much much less.

A: middlemen; risk; storefront; growers who spend waaaaaaay too much money on everything for the grow and spend it using a high-interest credit card.

OP: You should have your own crop in 4 months and not need to buy.

 

[Blue Dot]

Any mom and pop place can do millions in revenue a year, doesn't make them rich and doesn't fucking matter anyway. It should be legal, no non profit bullhockey needed.

Your missing the point.

This was about Richard Lee's place doing $25 million a year (HARDLY a mom & pop, 75 employees) but that the auditors said millons were funneled back into the company to go towards "yoga" for the members.

Like I said No one in oakland is trustworthy.