Why is medical marijuana so expensive?

[dorkvan420]

Prices at clubs are expensive???
I wouldnt know any more I grow my own, and sorry I am not concerned with what others pay elsewhere streets or clubs, IT ISNT MY MONEY!!!
If someone doesnt like the prices, they know what to do, and if not guess what they will pay.
I am personally glad I dont buy at clubs any longer, I just dont see compassion at any of them, and please if you know of 1 I would surely like to hear about it, because I am convinced that NONE of the clubs near me are compassionate or concerned with their patients.But hey to each his/her own, I just wish we could all have access to the ability to grow.
I dont see anything wrong with turning profit, and I dont know the inner workings of a club, but some people depend on them and they wont be leaving anytime soon, I am just happy I dont have to pay the prices as others do!!

 

[Pythagllio]

It seems headband707 is another one who believes that gross receipts = profits, and it makes no difference to him that Harborside is audited by a third party auditor to assure compliance with prop 215/420. Which means it's certified as a non-profit. But you just keep using that gross receipts as the basis for your ignorant judgment. There are lot5s and lots of non-profit orgs that take in $20 million a week.

I regret trying to extend you that olive branch. You are a one dimensional, dishonest, narcissistic, uneducated asshole who has no clue how the real world works. It cost the same to keep the club open for the piker who only buys a gram at a time as it does for someone who takes a full oz. No, it doesn't cost almost $9000/lb. It makes you a fucking liar when you present it as if.

edit: I BTW, haven't been to Harborside since 2007, but they were offering a number of selections of quality meds, absent 'bag appeal' for much closer to $200 than $400. WTF is wrong with making people who want 'bag appeal' pay for it? 'Bag appeal' isn't medical, no medical patient needs 'bag appeal'. It's just amazing that ignorant people pass judgments like they do. Why not get a clue how the club actually works, before you add up the price of the top shelf shit and yell 'rip off'? Right, acknowledging the facts wouldn't promote your agenda.

 

[SoCaliSmoker]

Very well said OURCEE!! Couldn't have said it better myself! I live in San Diego, I'm registering for my own private collective, and I fully understand the pricing from the street, from growers, and from Med Shops. Very well put!! The man knows what he's talking about all the way down to the last dollar.

 

[headband 707]

What fucking agenda could I possible have I don't even buy from your clubs ffs??? Me thinks thou does protest too much lol lol..You must be the guy charging these ungodly prices!!! As far as the way a club is run has nothing to do with charging these crazy prices. I stand on what I say here..... If all you say is true then perhaps they should get a smaller place cut out all that extra bullshit they are talking about overhead. Just charge for bud and get back to the business of selling just bud for a fair price. Don't talk to me about running a business as this isn't just a business and if that is all it is to you then you really are in the wrong place. You tell me the big difference between your $9000.00 a lb to our $2400.00 lb how the hell do you explain the difference? That your bud is better then our? That your risk is bigger? Well there is someone growing for your clubs legally I'm assuming so why is that cost being passed to the cunsumer? We all know it doesn't cost $9000.00 a lb so what does it cost? What are your mark ups? What is being passed on to the consumer? Break it down for me?
Fuck the bag appeal if your charging me $70.00 an 1/8 lol I can still get good bud cheaper great bag appeal . If you can't see where I'm coming from then I really can't help you.If your under the impression that I don't like the ppl that run the clubs atleast the ones I have met your wrong I do like them . It doesn't mean I don't give them shit. peace out Headband707

 

[nomaad]

h707: again, i don't think there was a single sentence in your last post that would not be considered part a a fallacious argument.

Have those been posted in this thread? If there has ever been a thread that could use it...

 

[PazVerdeRadical]

everyone in this thread must read this other thread:

http://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?t=145000

don't miss fatigues' post number 16 there...

a 'lil sample:

"PPS' sale price is premised upon a slightly less than $15 per ounce sale price to Health Canada. (Health Canada marks it up 1500% when they sell to patients.)"

peace

 

[Greyskull]

You tell me the big difference between your $9000.00 a lb to our $2400.00 lb

maybe i havent been paying attention but since when did clubs start selling pounds to patients? what are you talking about? i have not once ever in my time in the industry seen a club/coop/dispensary conduct a transction of that size to a patient.

really sounds like a bunch of folks (those who are buying) are still having convulsions regarding standard mark up practice from the end user side. haha.

if a club/coop/dispensary buys a pound at cost X and they part it out (which means they are moving it in many smaller quantities - c'mon, nobody walks in and buys and lb wholesale folks... but i bet if they did there would only be at most a few hundred $$$ added for 'handling' costs) to a volume of patients and into each transaction they incorporate overhead (reimbursement for the grower/supplier, packaging, rent/space, utilities, tax) into the final cost WHATS WRONG WITH THAT? its the same thing done at the supermarket for bread, at the post office for envelopes, at the gas station for gas....

off topic but FYI anyways... in an emergency without insurance, if you need your appendix removed, the hospital will remove the appendix for you, sure, no problem. they will save your life. thats what they do. thats their job. But they will also bill you $15000-$24000. those assholes who work at hospitals to save lives are greedy fucks?

i'm sorry, but its a cold hard world we live in. that has costs.

i'm not sorry you have to pay $20 for the one gram when the club/coop/dispensary got 455 of them at $10 per.

but I wonder why they got it at only $10 per ??????

maybe if you have to acquire something and you are not acquiring it in bulk you are not going to get the benefits of wholesale pricing? MAYBE??You want a better deal, BUY MORE. step up. maybe you should try moving a few pounds yourself to really experience the experience.

or better yet, maybe grow some fucking pot. grow some good fucking pot. and a lot of it. MAYBE YOU'RE PROBLEMS WITH THE PRICING STRUCTURE AT THE RETAIL LEVEL ARE ROOTED IN THE FACT THAT YOU DON'T GROW ENOUGH. then you won't have to worry about the pricing because it wont matter to you because you'll be swimming in it. and you won't have to complain about spending your hard earned money on your cannabis because you grow your own. you'll be stoked! but you need to grow enough to keep your self supplied... so be prepared (growing space, lights, containers, plant stock, timers, and time to tend!).

but then you can start complaining about how nutrient companies are only in it for the $$$ and that all their products are all snake oil and marketing bullshit and you could make your own nutes for way better for half the cost. hahaha

its a cycle....

 

[Blue Dot]

It seems headband707 is another one who believes that gross receipts = profits, and it makes no difference to him that Harborside is audited by a third party auditor to assure compliance with prop 215/420. Which means it's certified as a non-profit.

Will you PLEASE stop spouting this BS.

I have already rebutted in two previous threads that the "third party auditor" thinks that millions are put back into the corporation as "yoga" so obviously that third party auditor, just like everyone else in oakland, is not to be trusted.

Please, you really think the rest of us in CA believe a word that comes out of oakland?

I'm pretty sure it's the most corrupt city in the US.

 

[nomaad]

I am wary of the Oakland cabal and legislation they support. But I accept that they exist and will always exist. In the economic and political world we inhabit the role of the Oaksterdammers will be filled by somebody. Its inevitable. Are they playing the roll to its highest or lowest? Probably somewhere in the middle.

 

[johnnyla]

What fucking agenda could I possible have I don't even buy from your clubs ffs??? Me thinks thou does protest too much lol lol..You must be the guy charging these ungodly prices!!! As far as the way a club is run has nothing to do with charging these crazy prices. I stand on what I say here..... If all you say is true then perhaps they should get a smaller place cut out all that extra bullshit they are talking about overhead. Just charge for bud and get back to the business of selling just bud for a fair price. Don't talk to me about running a business as this isn't just a business and if that is all it is to you then you really are in the wrong place. You tell me the big difference between your $9000.00 a lb to our $2400.00 lb how the hell do you explain the difference? That your bud is better then our? That your risk is bigger? Well there is someone growing for your clubs legally I'm assuming so why is that cost being passed to the cunsumer? We all know it doesn't cost $9000.00 a lb so what does it cost? What are your mark ups? What is being passed on to the consumer? Break it down for me?
Fuck the bag appeal if your charging me $70.00 an 1/8 lol I can still get good bud cheaper great bag appeal . If you can't see where I'm coming from then I really can't help you.If your under the impression that I don't like the ppl that run the clubs atleast the ones I have met your wrong I do like them . It doesn't mean I don't give them shit. peace out Headband707

you and bluedot could be bored pigs or even worse, being paid with tax dollars to troll message boards.

 

[johnnyla]

Will you PLEASE stop spouting this BS.

I have already rebutted in two previous threads that the "third party auditor" thinks that millions are put back into the corporation as "yoga" so obviously that third party auditor, just like everyone else in oakland, is not to be trusted.

Please, you really think the rest of us in CA believe a word that comes out of oakland?

I'm pretty sure it's the most corrupt city in the US.

you plant any seeds yet ? why can't you grown your own? do you complain that Ralph's sells avocados for double what Food For Less sells them? Is there a conspiracy there too?

who do you represent? what are you doing to help yourself and/or other patients?

 

[johnnyla]

Please stop insulting me.

Your lack of class makes you look ignorant.

Accusing someone of being a cop because you disagree with them is something a 10 year old would do.

it's your Modus Operandi. You troll boards and spew propaganda.

why don't you go on the Prohibitionist boards where you will be with your kind who hate medical cannabis and everyone involved in it.

anyone who thinks cops aren't doing propaganda, toying with people, and various other psychological operations, you are kidding yourselves.

 

[johnnyla]

Well fuck isn't that the pot calling the kettle black lol lol ffs BOY BOY BOY or should I say KIDS ,Your one club pulled in $20 million annual income what the fuck!!!!!!! Now that was just Harborside no fucking wonder you guys have so many fucking clubs I would open a club ffs. Give me a break .. you boys want to pay upwards of what is it Pyth $60.00 $70.00 an 1/8 .. Go right ahead lol lol lol lol.. I will tell you what send your money my way I will sell you the exact same shit with no bird shit in it real sweet shit for $70.00 an 1/8 lol lol . For those prices I just might become a fucking dealer lol lol peace ppl Headband707

$70.00 an 1/8= $8960 lb holy shit lol lol lol or $560.00 oz
$60.00 an 1/8=$7680 lb or $480.00 oz

are you and bluedot the same person? can this be verified by a mod?

anyways, i really like these Haggen Daz ice cream bars. they are 2.69 for a box of 3. if i go to 711, it's almost 3 bucks for 1!!!

woah, what's going on? is this an evil conspiracy? no it's a free market you douches.

FUCK THE POLICE

 

[Blue Dot]

it's your Modus Operandi. You troll boards and spew propaganda.

why don't you go on the Prohibitionist boards where you will be with your kind who hate medical cannabis and everyone involved in it.

I love medical cannabis. I'm a patient myself.

I do hate dispensaries that kief their buds then sell them at full price without disclosing that fact (I've seen it with my own eyes, actually my own eyes thru a microscope. )

They are criminal for doing that and should go to prison.

You act like just because they are involved with cannabis they should get a pass for being criminals.

 

[Hydrosun]

I love medical cannabis. I'm a patient myself.

I do hate dispensaries that kief their buds then sell them at full price without disclosing that fact (I've seen it with my own eyes, actually my own eyes thru a microscope. )

They are criminal for doing that and should go to prison.

You act like just because they are involved with cannabis they should get a pass for being criminals.

You are a jackass, how many people need to tell you this. I don't want to pay for cops to arrest and jail growers or distributors. If their shit sucks don't buy it but get the F' away from spending everyone else's money.

Caveat emptor!

Peace,

 

[Blue Dot]

I don't want to pay for cops to arrest and jail growers or distributors.

If the liquor store somehow removed half the alcohol from the beer that I buy and then sell it back to me at full price they should go to prison and I'd gladly pay cops to put them there.

Not sure why you guys think being involved with cannabis means all the rules fly out the window.

I know it's hard for you to wrap your head around but it IS possible to be involved with cannabis and be an honest, stand up kind of person.

 

[Hydrosun]

No Assclown (recent promotion from jackass),

You should continue to buy the watered down beer because the speak easy home brew is all you can afford. As for me I'll buy Stone and other great micro brews and take my lumps if I don't like the taste. Get the F off your ass and PRODUCE quit trying to have others police your beer and weed.

Peace,

 

[nomaad]

If their shit sucks don't buy it but get the F' away from spending everyone else's money.

Caveat emptor!

Peace,

I'm with you on this to a degree.

Luckily, the scale and nature of this marketplace allows for such consumer power. Capitalism is working here at its best. It has been clearly and well argued here that there are extremely cheap and even free meds out there for those that need the help and are willing to smoke low bag appeal Mendo Blendo. If you don't like the prices or the product, you can grow or organize to grow your own for pennies on the dollar. **see note

On much larger scales (and the canna industry is going to get there eventually) businesses that qualify as "economies of scale" have an unfair, anti-competitive (the lifeblood of healthy capitalism) advantage over smaller economies.

**In an odd way I think that a "no plant limit" environment may work against the organization of people who are unable to grow and those that are. I know of quite a few commercial growers trading all the meds a patient could possibly needs for the use of their script. This paradigm will lose its purpose with no plant limits. There will be people who lose their trading power for free meds. I'm not bitching asout it, merely stating that its going to happen. These patients will have to find a new way to organize to get what they need.

The defense of socialist, or humanitarian or humanist values (that I welcome as part of a participatory economy that also includes aspects of capitalism and a bunch of other isms) in this thread is so fucking bad that I find myself defending capitalism. That's completely surreal.

 

[gogoplata420]

im a sad panda

im a sad panda

i suggest you guys start personally insulting each other. it would be in everybody's best interest if this thread gets locked.

cuz some of you are coming off as naive morons that dont know how the world works and the rest of you are coming off as greedy self righteous turds that need to get crapped out by the high horse your sitting on


i kid, i kid... continue the baseless bickering that has no end







this thread stinks on ice, and it makes me sad

 

[Hydrosun]

I'm with you on this to a degree.

The defense of socialist, or humanitarian or humanist values (that I welcome as part of a participatory economy that also includes aspects of capitalism and a bunch of other isms) in this thread is so fucking bad that I find myself defending capitalism. That's completely surreal.

It is a credit to your intellect much more so than our arguments; the really poor quality of your fellow travelers hasn't helped you much either.

I am very happy to meet a fellow grower and will always have some socialist no charge $$$ top shelf indoor hydro waiting for you.

Peace,

On an after thought and side note, why are ICmagers sad, upset, scared, or in any way interested in locking this or censoring free speech? Sure we are stoned and occasionally throw some electronic stones, but isn't that the whole point of free speech?