Why is medical marijuana so expensive?

[Moldy Dreads]

I wish people who had no experience and were not patients and have never been in a dispensary or part of a collective or bought medical MJ , would stop spreading lies...

I know many collectives that pay members with meds for minimal volunteer work. This thread reeks of misinformation, jealousy and ignorance coupled with false statements of the present medical scene...

 

[TheMintMan]

I went to the dispensary and they had 3 strains at $25 an eighth, 4 at $35, 3 at $45, 5 at the $50-$55 range and 3 amazingly frosty Ogs and Herojuana at $60 an eighth..

Why can't I find this selection of my daytime meds and night meds at the local dealer down in the hood? I mean he has a great selection of ecstasy, coke and Vicodin/Xanax, but fuck, why is his $50 commercial mids crap so expensive compared to the dispensary?

I'm confused

Nice change of pace. Hehe. Well played old bean...well played.

 

[PazVerdeRadical]

I challenge you to prove to me that there is no other alternative to marijuana. And that people die ONLY because their body does not receive the active ingredient in marijuana. That is how I define need. Not by who cries the loudest, or even who throws up the most...not to be cold-hearted because I am actually a very compassionate person by nature. I just don't believe in absolutes in most cases.

And greenhouses are not "just like an indoor but with the sun". First, because you cannot control the light cycle of the sun without spending $$$ on yet more equipment (i.e. shades controlled by timer). Second, unless you've got hepa filters on every opening (another cost that is not very practical in a greenhouse grow) you are going to have the same problems as you do with outdoor as far as fibers, hairs, and the like. Third, temps humidity etc are going to be different and harder to control to end up with top-shelf medical-grade product.

what? cannabis being a needed medicine is meant that it actually helps in a very good way with all the medical conditions people have been saying it is good for. it does not mean that without it, people will start dying left and right... I never hinted at such.

when I say it is a needed medicine it means the patient needs it with the regularity that his/her condition requires; in contrast to the recreational user, who can abstain and have no medical condition surface due to lack of use.

for example, if Joe wants to buy an ounce of herb for his b-day, to celebrate with his buddies, and he pays 200 USD an OZ, it is ok, these guys will smoke and enjoy their OZ and probably won't smoke or buy herb in a month or a even a year...

the medical patient on the other hand, needs to have a constant stash, so what a medical patient ends up paying for his herb consumption per month is not the same as the guy who buys a OZ and smoke 1/4 a gram in a pipe at night.

hence why medical cannabis must be provided by insurance at a lower cost.

First of all, you need to learn how to think. You are trying to say that just because mj has medical benefits that it should be free or cost very little to the patient. There are multiple medicines that are free or low cost because they are covered by insurance. Therefore the patient CHOOSES to medicate with mj and not the other drugs and therefore chooses of his own free will to pay the prices that he finds.



Nothing is free and for the grower to make his money aka his living he must be paid. So it is free for those who don't pay taxes into the system to pay for it. The price is just deferred to those who do pay into the system.



Then stop saying that they should give their product away for less than market price.




How does it not make sense? There are still legal risks in growing and distributing. People would just turn around and hock the medical on the streets like they do with vicodin and every other medication that has enjoyable properties.



Disagree completely. Unless you have a financial burden that makes yo unable to pay you don't deserve charity. And if you do have a financial burden, charity is your answer and only hope.

you need to calm down and learn how to read, really.

I went to the dispensary and they had 3 strains at $25 an eighth, 4 at $35, 3 at $45, 5 at the $50-$55 range and 3 amazingly frosty Ogs and Herojuana at $60 an eighth..

Why can't I find this selection of my daytime meds and night meds at the local dealer down in the hood? I mean he has a great selection of ecstasy, coke and Vicodin/Xanax, but fuck, why is his $50 commercial mids crap so expensive compared to the dispensary?

I'm confused

you cannot find the same at the local illegal dealer because the local dealer is not a medical legal dispensary to begin with.

a medical dispensary should be in the capacity to offer what you described, but not only that, medical dispensaries should get subsided so that insurance companies help pay for the herbs the patient needs.

if insurance helps pay other medicines, then why not herb?

that is my whole argument.

Paz.

 

[TheMintMan]

what? cannabis being a needed medicine is meant that it actually helps in a very good way with all the medical conditions people have been saying it is good for. it does not mean that without it, people will start dying left and right... I never hinted at such.

when I say it is a needed medicine it means the patient needs it with the regularity that his/her condition requires; in contrast to the recreational user, who can abstain and have no medical condition surface due to lack of use.

for example, if Joe wants to buy an ounce of herb for his b-day, to celebrate with his buddies, and he pays 200 USD an OZ, it is ok, these guys will smoke and enjoy their OZ and probably won't smoke or buy herb in a month or a even a year...

the medical patient on the other hand, needs to have a constant stash, so what a medical patient ends up paying for his herb consumption per month is not the same as the guy who buys a OZ and smoke 1/4 a gram in a pipe at night.

hence why medical cannabis must be provided by insurance at a lower cost.

You still fail to properly define "need." That's why everyone is arguing in circles, because we are defining our words differently. Screw merriam-webster...we 'need' a stoner dictionary.

 

[PuReKnOwLeDgE]

jealousy and ignorance

Haters

 

[PazVerdeRadical]

I would always take indoor over outdoor....

Market dictates price, as long as people are paying 300+ an ounce they will continue to sell for that. There is no shortage of people wanting it at 300+ an ounce.

once herb has less legal restrictions on it, you can bet there will be a shortage of people wanting 300 usd ounces.

but for now, many legal dispensaries (not all) will keep taking advantage, although they are legal, they sell in the same amounts and prices as illegal dealers. (add that to my point)

Paz.

 

[TheGreenBastard]

I would always take indoor over outdoor....

Market dictates price, as long as people are paying 300+ an ounce they will continue to sell for that. There is no shortage of people wanting it at 300+ an ounce.

I would be more than happy to pay $300 an oz. where I'm from an ounce will cost you ~$400 or more.

 

[Blue Dot]

Nursing is a shit job and it is much closer to physical labor than many might think.

Yeah but when you kill a plant because you mis-calculated the amount of nutes to give it or screwed up the pH you just replace it with another clone.

When you kill a patient because of a mis-calculation it a whole nother story.

Don't kid yourself that nurses aren't under pressure and they deserve to be paid more then any kind of farmer.

 

[zenoonez]

Yeah but when you kill a plant because you mis-calculated the amount of nutes to give it or screwed up the pH you just replace it with another clone.

When you kill a patient because of a mis-calculation it a whole nother story.

Don't kid yourself that nurses aren't under pressure and they deserve to be paid more then any kind of farmer.

Again, supply and demand determines price of service. The fact is that nurses are in short supply and thus they get paid fairly well. If a farmer similarly gets paid for his supply which fulls the demand of the market. Depending upon how high the demand is his income is adjusted accordingly. I mean hell, corn farmers are making a killing right now when in the 90s they were simply sustaining themselves.

 

[johnnyla]

They don't, but the dispensaries in LA don't care because all the rock stars buy up that $700/oz so they can look cool to their "friends".

can you stupid cops please stop spreading lies?

for the love of god, please stop LYING!!!

name the dispensaries that sell $700+ for an ounce of cannabis.

you fucking dumb liars.

 

[PuReKnOwLeDgE]

The reason it sells the same as street prices is so patients don't come in, purchase it, and go sell it on the blackmarket. Other wise dealers would just get their connects at a dispensaries. If legalized I would not expect to see it drop much past 100-150 at a low per ounce. It is a fine wine, will be simliar to a wine market. You can get your mass produced 10 dollar a bottle of bullshit to a real wine conniserur, or you can get a rare bottle of spectacular wine for 100's if not 1000's of dollars. Genetics will start being horded, no one will share genes if they are producing for profit, would be the same as sharing a recipe. Those fine wines will not be produced on a large scale, its to hard to maintain quality. There will still be $200+ ounces of weed and plenty of people with tastebuds who crave it. I know people who are not that well off who don't flinch at 300 an ounce to satisfy there craving for some quality herb.

 

[johnnyla]

i got sick of dispensary prices so i grew a few plants in my backyard and now i'm smoking for free.

i am uninsurable due to pre-existing conditions. i should have the option of having a choice to pay out the ass for insurance but they won't insure me. it's bullshit but it's life.

I hate the prices of bland tomatoes at Ralphs. i grew my own tasty homegrowns.

How come Food for less sells avacados for .59 per fruit and Ralph's can sell them for $2-3 depending on the day??? Are they criminals?

I'm done responding to this thread. I hate dumb cops who waste my tax dollars trolling these forumns spreading misinformation. you fat fucking lard asses.

 

[johnnyla]

The reason it sells the same as street prices is so patients don't come in, purchase it, and go sell it on the blackmarket. Other wise dealers would just get their connects at a dispensaries. If legalized I would not expect to see it drop much past 100-150 at a low per ounce. It is a fine wine, will be simliar to a wine market. You can get your mass produced 10 dollar a bottle of bullshit to a real wine conniserur, or you can get a rare bottle of spectacular wine for 100's if not 1000's of dollars. Genetics will start being horded, no one will share genes if they are producing for profit, would be the same as sharing a recipe. Those fine wines will not be produced on a large scale, its to hard to maintain quality. There will still be $200+ ounces of weed and plenty of people with tastebuds who crave it. I know people who are not that well off who don't flinch at 300 an ounce to satisfy there craving for some quality herb.

i only disagree with your first sentence bro . you said yourself you sell to your patients for 200 an O. why aren't you worried about them diverting?

it's a bullshit argument parroted over and over again. if that is the only reason prices are where they are then it's wrong and profiteering and therefore illegal.

every patient of a collective signs a paper saying they will not divert meds. any collective that argues their prices have to be high to avoid diversion are using it as an excuse. it's illogical. it's not the collectives problem what the patient does after they leave. they have ZERO liability.

i respect that fact that you provide your meds for such compassionate prices.

 

[Blue Dot]

can you stupid cops please stop spreading lies?

for the love of god, please stop LYING!!!

name the dispensaries that sell $700+ for an ounce of cannabis.

you fucking dumb liars.

There are plenty of clubs in LA that sell $20/gram = $570/oz.

Maybe not $700 but close.

 

[Greyskull]

There are plenty of clubs in LA that sell $20/gram = $570/oz.

Maybe not $700 but close.

its called mark up.
its fucked up.
oh well.
the world is still spinning...

 

[johnnyla]

There are plenty of clubs in LA that sell $20/gram = $570/oz.

Maybe not $700 but close.

25% exaggeration there cop. just like when you weigh the root balls and dirt.

how much they pay you per hour to troll this board? or should i say, how much do I and the rest of CA taxpayers pay?

aren't there real criminals to go after? ever look at the Sex offender maps for CA? they are everywhere!!! fucking pederasts and rapists are chillin' in hotels waiting to finger bang your children or rape your wife so non violent drug offenders can rot in prison.

 

[Blue Dot]

25% exaggeration there cop. just like when you weigh the root balls and dirt.

how much they pay you per hour to troll this board? or should i say, how much do I and the rest of CA taxpayers pay?

aren't there real criminals to go after? ever look at the Sex offender maps for CA? they are everywhere!!! fucking pederasts and rapists are chillin' in hotels waiting to finger bang your children or rape your wife so non violent drug offenders can rot in prison.

Please stop insulting me.

Your lack of class makes you look ignorant.

Accusing someone of being a cop because you disagree with them is something a 10 year old would do.

 

[Pythagllio]

Me, because I do not know this Jamaican that you speak of. And I do not trust people I do not know. And I don't like finding bird shit, or fibers, or hair, or anything else on my buds. If we are going to talk about this like it's equivalent to drugs that actually ARE medical necessities, then we might as well operate in a sterile environment as well, no?

In 1984 there was a case where somebody in Jamaica cut the pot they exported with manure and it caused a significant outbreak of Salmonella poisoning. To this day you can find people that claim that Salmonella poisining is a risk from smoking cannabis because of this. No, it's a risk of smoking animal shit. (House MD mentioned Salmonella poisoning as a risk which got me Googling)

 

[Pythagllio]

Buying by the gram isn't the same as buying by the ounce. Not only is $700 an ounce a lie, calling $20/gram $560/ounce is just as much a lie because every dispensary that will sell you a $20 gram will sell you an ounce for less than $400. Blue Dot's entire case falls apart once you pick apart his lies and divergences from reality. If you can't make a case fo9r your argument without lies and deceipt, your case is bullshit.

 

[headband 707]

Buying by the gram isn't the same as buying by the ounce. Not only is $700 an ounce a lie, calling $20/gram $560/ounce is just as much a lie because every dispensary that will sell you a $20 gram will sell you an ounce for less than $400. Blue Dot's entire case falls apart once you pick apart his lies and divergences from reality. If you can't make a case fo9r your argument without lies and deceipt, your case is bullshit.

Well fuck isn't that the pot calling the kettle black lol lol ffs BOY BOY BOY or should I say KIDS ,Your one club pulled in $20 million annual income what the fuck!!!!!!! Now that was just Harborside no fucking wonder you guys have so many fucking clubs I would open a club ffs. Give me a break .. you boys want to pay upwards of what is it Pyth $60.00 $70.00 an 1/8 .. Go right ahead lol lol lol lol.. I will tell you what send your money my way I will sell you the exact same shit with no bird shit in it real sweet shit for $70.00 an 1/8 lol lol . For those prices I just might become a fucking dealer lol lol peace ppl Headband707

$70.00 an 1/8= $8960 lb holy shit lol lol lol or $560.00 oz
$60.00 an 1/8=$7680 lb or $480.00 oz