I'm confused about something...

[Lapides]

The 318W is supposed to get results equivalent to a 1000W hid?

My 1000W HID has a footprint of 5'x5' MIMIMUM. I get 2 pounds from them.

The 318W Penetrator has a footprint of 2'x4'? And I am to expect 2 pounds from them? With a 2'x4' footprint? I can get THAT MUCH herb from that small of a space?

If so, I'm sold.

 

[Babbabud]

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[Skip]

How about that Q & A thread that has been deleted?

 

[habeeb]

what LED's are you using LEDgirl?

LED's are changing every 6 months, do you guys plan to keep up with the newest technology that LED's are going at?

 

[Moppel]

imho Plasma is gonna win it from Led before led is really usable for us. check this link:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lTGsM9pplUs

 

[Lapides]

imho Plasma is gonna win it from Led before led is really usable for us. check this link:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lTGsM9pplUs

Damn, they DO look good.


However, just so we can stay on topic, I'd like to know in what way a 318w penetrator will replace my 1000w HPS.

TIA LEDGirl!

 

[osirica420]

damn that plasma shit is serious!!!!!

 

[LEDGirl]

My 1000W HID has a footprint of 5'x5' MIMIMUM. I get 2 pounds from them.

The 318W Penetrator has a footprint of 2'x4'? And I am to expect 2 pounds from them? With a 2'x4' footprint? I can get THAT MUCH herb from that small of a space?

If so, I'm sold.

A customer and personal friend, yielded just over a pound with 252W of our LED's over a 2' x 2' section of her aero tray. So can you yield higher than a pound with our 318W? Absolutely. But as you know, lighting is not the only factor affecting bud growth though. Room temp, humidity, nutrients, grow medium, co2, and strain also make a big difference on yield. So each gardener will have their own results according to their individual setups, but over a pound is certainly achievable.

Asking our 318W unit to produce 2lbs however, might be a bit on the high end. If you're currently yielding 2lbs consistently, you're talking about .9grams per watt, which is exceptional for most HID growers. Your average grower will do from 1-1.5lbs with that same thousand, averaging .5-.7gpw. 2lbs with our 318W would be almost 3grams per watt! I'm not saying it isn't possibly with the proper Scrog setup etc..., but I simply haven't seen it yet.

My friend is in no way a professional grower, but she is pretty darn good at it. Assuming that you're likely a bit better than her, I would expect you to be able to do 1.5lbs and possibly a little more with a single 318W unit over a 4' x 2' area. In my personal garden I'm running 754W over that same sized area, and am expecting a total yield between 3-4 pounds (6-8 ounces per plant).

 

[LEDGirl]

imho Plasma is gonna win it from Led before led is really usable for us. check this link:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lTGsM9pplUs

Sorry, but no. Sulfur Plasma lights have been around for 15+ years, and yet they are NOT currently the replacement for HID. Why? If they are so bright, and so amazing, why is it that for the last 15 years, people have only been talking about what would be possible with them, instead of making something possible? It's simple: they are CRAZY expensive.

They produce a very nice spectral output, but keep in mind that just as HID, the MAJORITY of this light is not usable for photosynthesis, and is therefore worthless to your plants. The reason Sulfur will never lead anything in reference to horticulture, is that it doesn't use pinpointed wavelengths of light... And unlike chip-based LED's, sulfur plasma bulbs aren't going to double their brightness every 3 or more years...

 

[LEDGirl]

what LED's are you using LEDgirl?

LED's are changing every 6 months, do you guys plan to keep up with the newest technology that LED's are going at?

I own Hydro-Grow-LED.com, and use the lights that our company manufacturers. The lights are featured in the sticky at the top of this forum..

I have no plans on slowing down when it comes to developing the newest and best products with LED's. I'll continue to stay ahead of my competition in terms of who has the best and brightest lights.

 

[Lapides]

Cool.

Thanks for the reply LEDGirl.

My interest is certainly piqued. I'll stay tuned and see what some of the other testers think of your product.

Thanks again.

 

[LEDGirl]

Any time

 

[Amstel Light]

yea i'm comfused as well I thought the led's were debunked? Shows my level of attention...I would love to move away from hid's why could you not use the plasma in conjuction with the led's? here is a link for you ledgirl can you decipher it for the light laymans?

http://www.plasma-i.com/horticulture.htm

 

[irishboy]

yea i'm comfused as well I thought the led's were debunked? Shows my level of attention...I would love to move away from hid's why could you not use the plasma in conjuction with the led's? here is a link for you ledgirl can you decipher it for the light laymans?

http://www.plasma-i.com/horticulture.htm

also plasma dosent last as long as leds, plus alot more money. thats why you can leave ur plasma tv on all the time or it will burn out over time. plus youll get more heat also with plasma.

 

[mrwags]

A Plasma television will raise the ambient room temperature 8 degrees on average. Mine does I know for fact and after learning this I went for a different technology for the basement.


Mr.Wags

 

[LEDGirl]

yea i'm comfused as well I thought the led's were debunked? Shows my level of attention...I would love to move away from hid's why could you not use the plasma in conjuction with the led's? here is a link for you ledgirl can you decipher it for the light laymans?

http://www.plasma-i.com/horticulture.htm

Nothing says that you can't use the two in conjunction with one another. We created LED to be a stand alone lighting source, so that it wouldn't need any supplemental light in order to give you the results you're used to with HID. Adding supplemental light such as a Sulfur Plasma, does nothing more than increase the amount of light available to your plants. Honestly though, I think it would be cheaper to get extra LED's to cover your area, vs the SP, especially over the long run.

 

[Tropical Rain]

Waiting on a long term respective member to do some real world testing.
Produce a generally accepted average dry weight yield per unit.

Have read plenty of things, the jury is out. The future is bright.
Have read / seen that LED units are comparable in VEG, but lack elsewhere. [not speaking on these particular units, simply what the general pop. has gathered based upon other LED units.] (even custom built units with CRE lighting.) = GOOGLE.

AVERAGE
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1kw HID yeild = 2Lbs + (dry weight)
???w LED yeild = 2Lbs + (dry weight)

Thanks,

TR

 

[LEDGirl]

Waiting on a long term respective member to do some real world testing. Produce a generally accepted average dry weight yield per unit.

Have read plenty of things, the jury is out. The future is bright.
Have read / seen that LED units are comparable in VEG, but lack elsewhere. [not speaking on these particular units, simply what the general pop. has gathered based upon other LED units.] (even custom built units with CRE lighting.) = GOOGLE. AVERAGE

Well then I'm glad to have you on board for the ride. I wish I could make time speed up, but half the fun is getting to the end, and the anticipation as it happens. So be patient, and Sleepy, S_a_H, Benji, and MrWags will be doing demonstrations for you shortly. I picked them because of their skill, the level of trust towards them on these forums, and the fact that they help moderate the threads. I have no doubts they will finally be able to show you a LED light that is fully capable in bloom

If I didn't have confidence in what our lights did, it would literally be suicide to take this approach, and I hope most of you can see that. As far as the other units are concerned though, I tend to agree with you. I've seen several other LED grow lights do well in veg, and fall short in bloom. Half of the problem is intensity (LED viewing angle), and the other half is generally spectral output. There's a lot of simple, little things involved in making a LED light function well for growing plants. Miss out on any of them, and it can have a dramatic effect on efficiency.

 

[Sleepy]

I'm Ready...

I'm Ready...

To take the leap...


and we shall see

i can't wait!!!




thanks for picking me, by the way.

 

[ROJO145]

Cool Tech!!The good word from any one of those four will be more than enuf,there ALL straight shooters!!Gonna be fun to watch,GROW ON