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Fulvic Acid - Do you use it and how

grapeman

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I have used fulvic acid as a sorta accelerant over the last 15 years. What I mean by that is, used at the right time during rapid cell division, the use of fulvic actually helps the plant move nutrients around resulting in better and more rapid growth. My experience and best results is from using fulvic has been to treat @ 5 days before the application of Gibb for fruit sizing on grapes. Definite increase in size and crop load on grapes as compared to the control. After a few years, my entire crop got the treatment and no more control was needed.

I use it on this crop now to, in small amounts in foliar sprays, during veg and and again about 2 weeks into flower.

Do you use it? How do you use it? Does it help you at all? I have never done a control on this crop. I just use it due to my experience from other crops. Anyone here with specific knowledge for this type of use.... DWC indoor?
 

Payaso

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What an interesting question, I just noticed it on the shelf at the local 'shop' and the idiots there didn't even have a clue to what it was... Hopefully some expert will jump in here and educate us...
 

Payaso

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Is Fulvic Acid commonly used on grapes? And Gibberelin? Much to learn about this...
 

Skrappie

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Fulvic acid is good for plants supposidly for a laundry list of reasons.

Keeping in mind I'm no resercher or expert there are two main reasons why I like to use it.

Its low molecular weight makes it need to combine with things. Fulvic acid combines with inorganic ions to make them organic...or slightly more organic i guess which are ultimately more digestible for plants.

Fulvic acid increases transpiration. The more plants breath the heavier they eat (all things being equal).
 

grapeman

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Is Fulvic Acid commonly used on grapes? And Gibberelin? Much to learn about this...

Fulvic Common on grapes? I doubt it. But being the type that is always looking for an edge, I've used it for years. I know that it is a buzz of some chem salesmen now so it won't be long before most growers are exposed to it. Will it become standard? I doubt it as the effect is not so pronounced that most growers will spend the time to set up their own trials to see the positive effects.

As for Gibb? Yes it is mandatory. Housewives won't buy your product unless it has sex appeal and without gibb, most varieties of grapes would produce berries the size of your little fingernail. It's a natural product so it is even allowed for organic grow of fruit.
 

FunkyFarmer

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As far as I know, fulvic acid chelates (binds) other micro nutrients and these are then cotransported into the plant. It is also an intermediary substance in Krebs cycle, which essentially how sugars, fats and proteins are broken down into energy, co2 and water. Thus using fulvic acid will allow the plant to save some precious sugar for later blooming (in theory that is).

Gibberellin does indeed enhance grape production, but gibb is also the cause of stretching. It is produced in the main apex of the plant, which is why topping yields bushy plants. So adding gibb should be done after all stretching have completed unless spindly tall plants are the order of the day, may god forbid!
 

grapeman

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As far as I know, fulvic acid chelates (binds) other micro nutrients and these are then cotransported into the plant. It is also an intermediary substance in Krebs cycle, which essentially how sugars, fats and proteins are broken down into energy, co2 and water. Thus using fulvic acid will allow the plant to save some precious sugar for later blooming (in theory that is).

Gibberellin does indeed enhance grape production, but gibb is also the cause of stretching. It is produced in the main apex of the plant, which is why topping yields bushy plants. So adding gibb should be done after all stretching have completed unless spindly tall plants are the order of the day, may god forbid!

Correct funk man - Gibb does cause stretch. OK for grapes.. not good for mj.

I guess no one here uses fulvic
 

GrnAlien

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I use a Fulvic product called FulMag, with great results. I'm now running a modified Lucas formula using GH Micro/Bloom, FulMag and Pure Flowers. Getting huge, frosty, TASTY, buds!
 

*mistress*

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diy humic & fulvic acids:

http://www.freepatentsonline.com/y2008/0216534.html
Method for Extracting Fulvic Acid Molecules:
Sources of humus material include peats, peat moss, composts, brown coals, soil, pond sediment, biosolids (sewage sludge) and oxidized lignites.
http://www.freepatentsonline.com/6204396.html
Method for producing calcium fulvate from humus material

http://www.freepatentsonline.com/6147229.html
Method for producing magnesium fulvate from humus material

http://www.freepatentsonline.com/5876479.html
Composition and method of manufacturing a liquid humic acid based soil enhancer

enjoy your garden!
 
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dongle69

Everyone that uses FloraNova uses fulvic acid (it is in the bottle).
 

*mistress*

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can also just get cheapo down to earth 45% humic acid ore.
soak in water for fulvic acid...;)
or top dress. if top dress, will dissolve over time.
good to add to media during transplanting, right under root ball.

fnb=:D...

enjoy your garden!
 

habeeb

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all fulvic is not crated equal..

I use bioag fulvic, I rotate with water in and foliar sprays, about once every two weeks at about 3-5ml a gallon ( I always undue then overdue )
 
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YosemiteSam

I agree with habeeb...the BioAg fulvic is great stuff. I like it better than Floralicious Plus.
 
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dongle69

Floralicious Plus is not meant to be just a fulvic supplement.
The primary benefits of Floralicious are the vitamin complexes.
The fulvics and humics are included in the formula because they assist in the plant’s ability to uptake the other ingredients.
20% sea kelp, too!
Think of it as a vitality booster.
Sucks that BioAg fulvic isn't available in Oregon or California.
 

mister c

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I use every kind of fulvic i can get my hands on...from diamond nectar to fulmag. There are a lot of fulvic products out there. There are also humic acids as well. Which are a less refined version of fulvic.

Humic for soil/coco...

Fulvic for hydro...is what i do.


A hella light foliar once a week of fulvic in late bloom will bring the bling.
 

UNREGISTRD

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Been using F1 (grandma engys,,Advanced) supposably some of the best stuff next to BIOAG.. Just never seen it anywhere?? Is it available from mail order?
Any of you that use the BIOAG Which one do you use there is a couple differnt things on there site even for Personal use.. lol..????
 

supervaca

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I use every kind of fulvic i can get my hands on...from diamond nectar to fulmag. There are a lot of fulvic products out there. There are also humic acids as well. Which are a less refined version of fulvic.

Humic for soil/coco...

Fulvic for hydro...is what i do.


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Why? Is not better a combination ob both humic/fulvic in both mediums ??
This is what I believed was the truth; can you give further explanation, please, Mr.C ??
ThANKS
 

UNREGISTRD

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Why? Is not better a combination ob both humic/fulvic in both mediums ??
This is what I believed was the truth; can you give further explanation, please, Mr.C ??
ThANKS

Not sure what the reasoning is behind this but I have heard this from multiple people in the field.. Fulvic is for hydro and humic is soil... I DUnno Its just what ive been told and always stuck too..Ive never used there Humic nor have they ever tried to sell it to me either...
 
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dongle69

Fulvic acid is soluble independent of ph where humic is soluble more towards alkaline.
Humic is used a lot because it is cheap.
To say that fulvic is for hydro and not for soil/coco would be incorrect.
Fulvic is higher quality and good for everything.
 

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