Really need help.... It is a bad day.

[medmaker420]

let me guess,

drink = crying fits?

My suggestion, don't drink yourself into shitty feelings. You must be dwelling on something to do the self pity party stuff.

Easiest way to get over it, stop feeling sorry for your drinking problem and DO SOMETHING about it.

When you sober up and see how stupid this crybaby shit is you might WAKE UP.

Do you think drinking MORE is helping you? here's a thought, man up and STOP.

It looks like you need people to be harder then you are being on yourself BECAUSE being a drunk lush sure isn't going to do a damn thing for you or your life.

WAKE UP


AA won't do anything for you except be yet another crutch in your life that you will get addicted to. Odds are you simply have an addictive personality and NOT a drinking problem. Are you one who likes to do the same shit over and over, keep your routines the same, go ALL OR NOTHING?

The anxious feelings after stopping something is the addictive personality wanting to continue and not simply an alcohol problem. I don't buy the AA thing, I did it and it is bullshit. If you have to stay away from something and everyone who does it then what was actually solved? NOTHING, dwelling on stories and sad moments in your life that happened WHILE you were drinking, how does that make anyone better?

Remember in AA "keep coming back!" versus fixing yourself for YOU and YOURSELF.

 

[JimBeamKush]

thank you all for your great advice. I do plan on going to some AA meetings this week. I took my last drink at 8 this morning before i went to the doctor.
I know it has not been very long but I am feeling very confident so far, even though I know this is just the start of a long journey, but I will not let it define my life (except the fact that I will not be defined as a alcholic).
It is so funny trying to tell my friends about it because we are so young that noone can really understand yet. But I have a few friends who i know will know what I have went through in this short amount of time sooner or later.
I got help from my doctor first and the medcine is REALLY a huge advantage but if for some reason I still can not stop, I will for sure without a question go to rehab.

You guys are awesome.

 

[Hazyfontazy]

Right now the medicine the doctor gave me seems to be fending off the symptoms pretty good. I just feel very anxious

who is this doctor ?

whoever they are should be struck off immediatly

where i'm from if u walk into a doctors after being drinking for 4 days and clearly drunk they would not prescribe any drugs at all .

 

[Jacky Treehorn]

I really dont wanna commit myself to a hospitial but I will if I have too. If the symptoms get worse I will. Right now the medicine the doctor gave me seems to be fending off the symptoms pretty good. I just feel very anxious

Breaking a severe alcohol addiction without medical supervision can be dangerous, and in some cases fatal. If you are experiencing severe withdrawal symptoms, you need to seek a proper rehabilitation facility. Are you having hallucinations when you stop drinking? Are you having trouble breathing, eating?

Cutting cold turkey for some hardcore alcoholics can do bad damage to your body's systems - so if you are going to quit, please do it safely with medical help at a detox center. The sooner you do it, the better.

 

[JimBeamKush]

who is this doctor ?

whoever they are should be struck off immediatly

where i'm from if u walk into a doctors after being drinking for 4 days and clearly drunk they would not prescribe any drugs at all .



The doctor prescribed me a non narcotic drug, it is not something that I can really abuse and stuff. But I am really thanking god she did.

 

[baan]

Good job on the action man. It's a good first step.
I know what you mean about the anxiety and panic attacks. I had those a while back every day for two years straight. I know a lot of people think lightly of it, as with your situation in general, and think of it as an excuse or something; I dare say that they are ignorant. They don't understand and should be disregarded, don't let them bring you down, you must find strength and be strong. Exercise helps a lot, even though it doesn't seem like the thing to do. Eventually exercise, and later on herbs and psychedelics helped me move past that situation with my anxiety and panic.
I know a couple of people who are and were addicted to alcohol. I've a very dear uncle who was one. You may think it's bad now, and it is, but you haven't been drinking 30+ beers a day yet, have you? It will only get a lot worse. Trust me. Find the strength to climb out of the hole.

I second the psychedelic notion. Find some san pedro or peyote or bridgesii, and let the medicine heal you, and teach you many things. If you are worried about your probation then check out this and make the decision yourself.

I wish you luck

 

[JimBeamKush]

thanks baan. I would try the psychedelics but man i am so paraoind I think I would have a bad trip.

 

[SpasticGramps]

let me guess,

drink = crying fits?

My suggestion, don't drink yourself into shitty feelings. You must be dwelling on something to do the self pity party stuff.

Easiest way to get over it, stop feeling sorry for your drinking problem and DO SOMETHING about it.

When you sober up and see how stupid this crybaby shit is you might WAKE UP.

Do you think drinking MORE is helping you? here's a thought, man up and STOP.

It looks like you need people to be harder then you are being on yourself BECAUSE being a drunk lush sure isn't going to do a damn thing for you or your life.

WAKE UP


AA won't do anything for you except be yet another crutch in your life that you will get addicted to. Odds are you simply have an addictive personality and NOT a drinking problem. Are you one who likes to do the same shit over and over, keep your routines the same, go ALL OR NOTHING?

The anxious feelings after stopping something is the addictive personality wanting to continue and not simply an alcohol problem. I don't buy the AA thing, I did it and it is bullshit. If you have to stay away from something and everyone who does it then what was actually solved? NOTHING, dwelling on stories and sad moments in your life that happened WHILE you were drinking, how does that make anyone better?

Remember in AA "keep coming back!" versus fixing yourself for YOU and YOURSELF.

That's one point of view. Don't listen to him about AA. Go. It didn't work for him, but it helps a lot of other people. AA something you get addicted to? C'mon bro, are you serious? You bet your ass it's a crutch and addicts need freaking wheelchairs to get them through the day sometimes. That "Man up and quit" sounds good, but to advise going at alone is, well........ I'm not so sure you know what hell you are talking about.

YOU can only fix yourself, but use the resources and support that are available to you. Fighting this by yourself is a loosing proposition.

 

[whiterabbit9]

It's threads like this, that make me sick.

Some kid under 21...Alcoholic...and the shit is legal.

hmmm

dont think the thread should make you sick tho

 

[medmaker420]

That's one point of view. Don't listen to him about AA. Go. It didn't work for him, but it helps a lot of other people. AA something you get addicted to? C'mon bro, are you serious? You bet your ass it's a crutch and addicts need freaking wheelchairs to get them through the day sometimes. That "Man up and quit" sounds good, but to advise going at alone is, well........ I'm not so sure you know what hell you are talking about.

YOU can only fix yourself, but use the resources and support that are available to you. Fighting this by yourself is a loosing proposition.

I am 100% right on it, what do you give up? Drinking and replacing it with meetings talking and crying about what happened in the past and listening to others do the same.

I have done the AA thing and seen guys sitting there for 20+ years talking about what happened in the 70's and STILL dwelling and crying about it. If you need emotional help go to someone with a degree who was trained to deal with that and NOT other drug and alcohol addicts.

Do you honestly thinking going to meetings 2 or 3 times a day for 20 years is working? It is an addiction all its own so what does get fixed?

My point is more or less, don't let AA become a crutch just like drinking was, sure go there to get off the sauce for a couple weeks BUT what I found within AA was the feeling of guilt if I didn't go even if I wasn't at home drinking.

Manning up is important versus trying to find pity from others WHICH I think many alcoholics do. Hell who hasn't done the pity party thing, it is once you WAKE UP and SNAP OUT OF IT that you start to actually feel productive, happy and doing productive things in life.

Walking around hiding from drinkers, the drink itself THEN sitting around hearing depressing stories IN AA really is a downer.

We all have opinions though and having gone through what he has I am giving my thoughts on the subject. Whether you agree or not I could give two shits about.

 

[Mister Postman]

I take it most of you people saying just quit haven't seen someone who goes through alcohol detox. It's not simple withdrawals such as sweating, vomiting, diarrhea, shakes.

You literally lose your mind while going through full blown alcohol DT. The patients that I have seen are fully restrained in a bed because they have lost all control of themselves. They babble incoherent sentences along with becoming violent. If a person walked in on someone like this, they would think they were literally insane. I've seen one patient completely fine one day then fully restrained and a completely different person the next.

If you are this hard up, you need to seek an impatient treatment center where they can monitor you and give you the appropriate care. Find a number that can refer you to the nearest hospital or treatment facility as soon as you can.

Good luck

I agree.. Alcohol withdrawl unlike heroin, or cocoaine can KILL YOU.. Other drugs you may wish you were fucking dead going through the withdrawls, but unlike the others severe alcohol withdrawl is DEADLY in of itself.... Not something to be taking lightly, or to be throwing other drugs like mushrooms on top of..

Severe alcohol withdrawl calls for medical help, and most likely an impatient detox treatment where they can control/monitor and prescribe for such things as blood pressure, heart rate, and dealing with the insane anxiety and delusions that goes with alcohol withdrawl..

It's easier to take another drink then deal with the pain associated with withdrawl.. Personally if I was in your situation I'd be getting with my doctor, and seriously considering a week or two treatment if only to get through the withdrawl... Most addicts will tell ya though, that the detox is the easiest part... Not taking another drink/drug once ya feel better and are back on top of the world so to speak is what takes real effort. For some the support of others who've been there done that helps. Who wants to take advice from someone who just read about your problem in some text book for a grade... An aa meeting a day sure as hell isn't going to ruin yours and your families lives. If that's what it takes to keep some sober, then so be it. More power to them... That's being a man IMO. The other side of the coin for many is a misery that has gotta be 10x worse for all involved.. Some with 10-15years plus sobriety need to keep the pain and suffering they went through real. They know that after 10yrs clean they are still only 1 sip away from being that guy again... Nothing reminds you of the reality of your situatuion like seeing/helping another who is as desperate and sad as you once were, and even more so seeing someone who has fell after years of sobriety, pick themselves back up afterwards..

After the alcohol is all out of the system, and your feeling better, there is still that underlying desease of addiction left to deal with.. And that never goes away... No matter how you changed, how many goals/successes/kids/wife/years you put in front your last drink, as an alcoholic or someone born with that genetic switch that can be flipped, you will always be 1 drink away from having all that misery refunded you.. They say that 1 is to many, and 1000 will never be enough, and for those like us dealing with addiction it's the truth..

I wish you the best of luck bro.. Hang in there.. There is much hope for you.. Realizing you have a real problem, and knowing you need to change your ways is the first step to beating any addiction..

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alcohol_withdrawal_syndrome

 

[chuckyoufarley]

are you sure your not yummybud

 

[SpasticGramps]

I agree.. Alcohol withdrawl unlike heroin, or cocoaine can KILL YOU.. Other drugs you may wish you were fucking dead going through the withdrawls, but unlike the others severe alcohol withdrawl is DEADLY in of itself.... Not something to be taking lightly, or to be throwing other drugs like mushrooms on top of..

Severe alcohol withdrawl calls for medical help, and most likely an impatient detox treatment where they can control/monitor and prescribe for such things as blood pressure, heart rate, and dealing with the insane anxiety and delusions that goes with alcohol withdrawl..

It's easier to take another drink then deal with the pain associated with withdrawl.. Personally if I was in your situation I'd be getting with my doctor, and seriously considering a week or two treatment if only to get through the withdrawl... Most addicts will tell ya though, that the detox is the easiest part... Not taking another drink/drug once ya feel better and are back on top of the world so to speak is what takes real effort. For some the support of others who've been there done that helps. Who wants to take advice from someone who just read about your problem in some text book for a grade... An aa meeting a day sure as hell isn't going to ruin yours and your families lives. If that's what it takes to keep some sober, then so be it. More power to them... That's being a man IMO. The other side of the coin for many is a misery that has gotta be 10x worse for all involved.. Some with 10-15years plus sobriety need to keep the pain and suffering they went through real... Nothing reminds you of the reality of your situatuion like seeing/helping another who is as desperate and sad as you once were, and even more so seeing someone who has failed after years of sobriety, pick themselves back up afterwards..

I wish you the best of luck bro.. Hang in there.. There is much hope for you.. Realizing you have a real problem, and knowing you need to change your ways is the first step to beating any addiction..

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alcohol_withdrawal_syndrome

Good advice.

 

[ItsAllOver]

Hey JBK, if you have full on withdrawal effects like you described in your second post, you need to go into treatment. I don't think it is within your ability to take care of it yourself anymore.
Please check in, man. I know it is hard to accept, but it is hard not to see that this is the only real option at this point, based on the info I have available here.

 

[medmaker420]

how long have you actually been drinking?

full on withdrawls at 20?

when did you start and how much daily/weekly?

what meds were prescribed? sure would love to hear what a doc prescribed you being under drinking age and all...

when did the shakes actually start? just after this 4 day binge or anytime you stop?

whats your drink of choice and how many a day are we talking about?

 

[filo6942]

Not sure if this has been asked but.... WHO IS YOUR BEER BARON?

 

[SuperZero]

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[kmk420kali]

how long have you actually been drinking?

full on withdrawls at 20?

when did you start and how much daily/weekly?

what meds were prescribed? sure would love to hear what a doc prescribed you being under drinking age and all...

when did the shakes actually start? just after this 4 day binge or anytime you stop?

whats your drink of choice and how many a day are we talking about?

Yeah...he said he drinks 4 or 5 days a week...to me, if he was dependent then it would be 7 out of 7....no way to skip days, for an alcoholic--

 

[whiterabbit9]

on a different note, im feeling better today

so always remember, that tomorow is another day

 

[Mrs.Babba]

on a different note, im feeling better today

so always remember, that tomorow is another day

Thats great rabbit!..I hope tomorrow is even better!!