Vertical Systems

[TheBudFather]

not really... i think its a little hot to be posting pics of to be fair... I usually use this system as hydro... BUT ive just finished a grow in the system with soil, as its a dripper feeder... I thought it would be a good experiment... ill go hydro next time tho..... nutes were causing problems with my drippers i was constantly popping drippers off to unclog them... i usually try and grow Organically.... but Its so much easier using these systems as they are intended, Hydro! If your asking for photos as proof that i own an Arena, then i dont mind taking 1 photo of her standing in the filthy state shes in at the mo...
I received chocolope seeds last week, and ive send my payment for some SSSDH seeds OH YEH BABY! so hopefully this will be my next venture... peace!

 

[greenthumb2]

20lb from 4 600's is un real.. not saying i dont believe you its just crazy. quess with that many plants anything is possible

 

[TheBudFather]

Lady in green

Lady in green

a photo of her...

 

[Teeg420]

thats a nice system, especially for the price. I myself am tired of having to produce and transplant so many damn clones for a vert sog. Going back to the tree game, i will just have to run a veg room in order to keep harvesting every 2 months.

what strain did you run in that thing?

 

[bballsk8er333]

nice stuff, does everyone run ebb & flo with these?

 

[Mr.Jones]

the coli is an overpriced pos.
i have built a prototype sys out of pvc that will out perform it, only i havent had the funds to finish it yet.

i cant give too many details on it. i have invented many things, but this one, i will patent.

the coli has a flaw, and obviously no one has realized it but me.
my sys will DOUBLE the colis yeild.
but i can tell you this, it will be MUCH more reasonable than $3000.
i have built a lot of systems, but this is my magnum opus.

tell us more about it!

hey teeg
you could turn the plants 180 degrees every day or you could put lights on the BACKSIDE

it just makes no sense to light only ONE side of a plant.

i always see pics of plants in the coli, and the backside of the plants (against the wall) are dark!
i mean DUH!
just imagen what the yeild would be if there were lights on the backside!
its like when they invented it, they didnt follow through to complete the idea.

in my opinion using the backside of the plants is useless - the whole point of a vertical system is to use as much of the lights as possible - adding new lights to a coli will help to increase yield but wont make the system more efficiant since using more power, but still you can prove me wrong

nice stuff, does everyone run ebb & flo with these?

i guess most ppl use topfeed or aero - with a ebb flo system i think you can water the whole room

 

[river rat01]

ok, this isnt my pic, i got it out of this very thread on page 3 i think.

see all the darkness on the outside of the ring?
thats what i;m talking about. the coil does the same thing.

lighting only one side of the plants means that you are losing up to 50% of your productivity.

and you wouldnt be increasing the wattage, you would just be spreading it around.

my sys would be using less than 3000 watts.

 

[TheBudFather]

thats a nice system, especially for the price. I myself am tired of having to produce and transplant so many damn clones for a vert sog. Going back to the tree game, i will just have to run a veg room in order to keep harvesting every 2 months.

what strain did you run in that thing?

Hi... I grew 11 mothers... they had about 12wks veg from seed, and had been topped several times... i took 320 cutts from, Big Buddhas Blue Cheese, Lemon Skunk, Great white shark, trainwreck, Greenhouse cheese,White rhino and a strain from canada called Upstate. I just ordered some SSSDH seeds and i bought some chocolope seeds a cpl weeks ago... so hopefully this will be a good 1 BUT I am also a fan of big trees... check out my Album pics... i had those 11 mothers at 7ft

ok, this isnt my pic, i got it out of this very thread on page 3 i think.

see all the darkness on the outside of the ring?
thats what i;m talking about. the coil does the same thing.

lighting only one side of the plants means that you are losing up to 50% of your productivity.

and you wouldnt be increasing the wattage, you would just be spreading it around.

my sys would be using less than 3000 watts.

The photo on page 3, the lights have only just been turned on... they havnt had enough time to warm up yet, thats why the room doesnt seem very bright... those plants are closer to that light tube, than they could ever get to a hot bulb... give them a quarter turn every now n they and they will be beaut!... if anything you could put something under the pot to make the plant tilt inwards, but not necessary.

 

[ScrubNinja]

Other folks on here are close - the garbage can grows with a horizontal flat scrog that could be producing at least twice as big a bud canopy; the 'pod' grow w/ the plant in the center and lined w/ vertical fluoro tubes - but none of them take advantage of the beautiful ergonomic simplicity of the cylindrical v-scrog or arena-style grow... NO WASTED LIGHT. At least, none compared to flat-plane setups.

My high-pod mini is obviously just a toy compared to what these guys have going on, but I like to think I solved your issues above very well. I plan to keep the plant pinned to the medium in veg and then grow straight up for a tube filled with buds growing through the lights.

Awesome thread too.

 

[Teeg420]

that thing looks awesome nice job.

 

[river rat01]

my pic isnt showing up for some reason??

 

[TheBudFather]

High-pod is a nice idea.... would be nice to have 1 bushy ass mother blooming inside her! ive never used Fluorescent lights before.
2 b fair the colours are buzzing me out, i cant stop looking at the pics.... nice 1 ninja Looks nicely finished also.

 

[river rat01]

ok, heres the pic.

 

[TheBudFather]

plants look nice and healthy river rat..... very tightly packed in tho..... i think i would stagger my plants a little by sitting every second plant on an upside down pot, so that every second plant is raised higher than the one its next to. this would thin out your foliage and make a lil more use of the 2 bulbs you have...
my plants never get anywhere near that close to the light tubes tho... once the plant is touching the tube its casts a shadow over a wide area blocking out light from plants... i think your bulbs would be wiser used above the plants horizontally in stead of vertically, this would allow you more floor space in the area you have. i can see you are coming close to harvest now tho, those light tubes are perfect for the job still.
what strains are you growing?

 

[river rat01]

well that isnt my grow.
i was just using it to make a point.

see how the outside is all dark? i mean, why???

i'm saying that if you had some lights on the outside as well as the inside, you could double your yield.

 

[TheBudFather]

well that isnt my grow.
i was just using it to make a point.

see how the outside is all dark? i mean, why???

i'm saying that if you had some lights on the outside as well as the inside, you could double your yield.

fair enough... but the only reason its dark around the plants is because the light are being smothered... the lights are not designed to be completely smothered like they are in the pic... them lights should go above the grow.... that would double the yield... not adding more lights... this is not a vertical grow room so im not sure why the lights in this pic have been set up like this. its almost minimizing the light.

 

[river rat01]

but dont you think that if the coli's lights were spread out - some on the inside and some on the outside, that it would yield more?

i think coli's use around 2400 watts or so, so i'm thinking that if you have 1000w in the center and 4- 400's on the outside of the cylinder, that it would be much more efficiant.

i dont know how you would figure the watts per square foot of a circle though, pi?
i'm not very good at math.

 

[hoosierdaddy]

Be nice for me to be here when the questions get asked about my system.

If we are critiquing, let me start by saying that this system works quite well. One may sit back and think that the yield would be doubled with lights on the outside, but I can assure you that is not the case. The thing works just like a scrog does. The buds find their way to the light and situate themselves. The growth shaded from the light gets pruned, just like in a scrog.

The particular shot chosen actually is showing 8 plants. That is 8 plants in a 23" x 18" footprint. I normally run 4 at a time, but I had to run extras that run..a timing thing. They came out fine, btw.

Here you can see my cab with the Kewl Toob in place.
7 in the hydro, and one in a pot.
I am back to four plants in 2 gallon bags, and I veg for about 30-45 days. I lst to help fill up the spaces.
And again, there is really no need for turning the plants or additional lighting, as they sculpt themselves in just fine.

 

[Relentless]

Be nice for me to be here when the questions get asked about my system.

If we are critiquing, let me start by saying that this system works quite well. One may sit back and think that the yield would be doubled with lights on the outside, but I can assure you that is not the case. The thing works just like a scrog does. The buds find their way to the light and situate themselves. The growth shaded from the light gets pruned, just like in a scrog.

The particular shot chosen actually is showing 8 plants. That is 8 plants in a 23" x 18" footprint. I normally run 4 at a time, but I had to run extras that run..a timing thing. They came out fine, btw.

Here you can see my cab with the Kewl Toob in place.
7 in the hydro, and one in a pot.
I am back to four plants in 2 gallon bags, and I veg for about 30-45 days. I lst to help fill up the spaces.
And again, there is really no need for turning the plants or additional lighting, as they sculpt themselves in just fine.

so u dont run a cage around the lights? is that 1 cool tube or 2?

thanks buddy! looks great!

 

[hoosierdaddy]

Thanks, Relentless.
There are two tubes connected together.
When the plants get larger I place a small cage made of hurricane fencing around the lights to keep the buds and leaves back from getting burnt. The cage blocks light, so if I don't need it, I don't use it.