how hard is it to achieve 1gpw from a bunch of smaller plants

[Brazilianfire]

how difficult is it to achieve 1gpw with a bunch of smaller plants 1k lights, big ac and Co2? also using power plant and perplex from dutch passion grown in 2 gals all organic promix with blood, bone meal and organic choice MG soil with lime.
thanks

 

[gogoplata420]

thats a great avatar

 

[milehighmedical]

16 2-3gallon girls per 1k... 2 ounces per girl. 1 gpw easy.

As long as your genetics are legitimate, you know how to grow relatively well and you don't have any catastrophic equipment failure you shouldn't have any trouble hitting that. Unless you don't veg them at least a bit.

Or if you want to be safe you can go 5x5=25 per 1k. 1.5 oz per girl = 1gpw+.

 

[Brazilianfire]

so 25 per 1k would do more being 1.5 o per plant. just more plants which is no problem. plus i want to be safe. and get the highest yields.
do the 1.5 o plants have to be vegged at all or straight from the cups into the 2 gallon bags? thanks

 

[Brazilianfire]

milehighmedical:

should 25 per 1k be stacked up right next to each other in 2 gallon bags untopped to achieve the 1.5 o's per plant? also using co2 if that matters in your equation?

thanks mate

 

[Mr. Bongjangles]

16 2-3gallon girls per 1k... 2 ounces per girl. 1 gpw easy.

As long as your genetics are legitimate, you know how to grow relatively well and you don't have any catastrophic equipment failure you shouldn't have any trouble hitting that. Unless you don't veg them at least a bit.

Or if you want to be safe you can go 5x5=25 per 1k. 1.5 oz per girl = 1gpw+.

In theory this is all correct.

In practice, you'll need a few things to line up to make it a reality.

-a completely dialed in environment. no crazy temps, no ongoing pest or fungus issues. co2 doesn't mean much to an unhappy plant.

-strong yielding genetics

-a decent amount of watts in veg to produce short but branchy plants, otherwise you'll have a bunch of colas with crappy side growth, and no way will the outside plants produce enough that way.

-close attention to training/staking or a screen/scrogg approach to make sure each plant is getting solid light to its branches. You can get 4-6 solid colas in that square foot, but if only half are sticking out properly, you're not going to get maximum yield.

-a tested approach to feeding, so as to ensure the plants are getting just what they want or relatively close.

There's more but I don't feel like rambling further. Perhaps others can jump in and hit any points I've missed.

Basically, its not easy to hit a gpw once you step outside of the multiple plant per square foot/sea of green methodology. Doable, but not easy.

 

[alpinestar]

a lot of clones will do it with no veg and offers less worries about dialing in the environment, but is a security risk and a lot more work

divide 1000 by the yield you think you can comfortably get off each plant, and you will have an easier time figuring out what you want to do

16 to 25 is pretty standard for 1000 grows
they dont always need topping but they may depending on the plant youve chosen (this is where testing comes into play)
veg until a foot to 2 feet tall then flower
trimming the lower growth is necessary
be vigilant and try to keep the light adjusted to the best point

 

[Brazilianfire]

i veg my trees 2 feet and they end up being like 4-5 feet tall

 

[alpinestar]

i veg my trees 2 feet and they end up being like 4-5 feet tall

depending on how they yield and where on them they do it, it might be advantageous to go smaller and use more

25x 1 to 1.5 ft tall would be ideal as a starting point

 

[milehighmedical]

so 25 per 1k would do more being 1.5 o per plant. just more plants which is no problem. plus i want to be safe. and get the highest yields.
do the 1.5 o plants have to be vegged at all or straight from the cups into the 2 gallon bags? thanks

If you don't care about plant count at all. You should go 6x6 from clone and it will be hard not to get 1 gpw. But then you only need 3x 1k to go over your federal limit. I personally would never. Then again, I run 9 per/ 1k, and am switching to 4 per/ 1k next round. Less is more here.

If you have your clones in 16 oz. cups under some good T-5's and top them if the pheno you're running likes it, while they fill out the cup. And then transplant them into the 2 gallons. Give them maybe 7-10 days to veg under their new HPS before you flip to make sure everything has a chance to fill in the gaps. Throw up a nice screen to get all your colas organized. Should be smooth as butter from there if your room is dialed in.

milehighmedical:

should 25 per 1k be stacked up right next to each other in 2 gallon bags untopped to achieve the 1.5 o's per plant? also using co2 if that matters in your equation?

thanks mate

As far as any training is concerned, do whatever you have to so you can fill in your canopy. Make 100% use of your lighting foot print.

I think you could do it without CO2, but if everything is working as it should be CO2 could help you fill that extra little gap to meet your goal.

Just as another note... I've never seen a plant yield less than an ounce UNLESS: 1) Genetic limitations 2) Unacceptable Growing Environment 3) No Knowledge of Cannabis Cultivation. Usually it is 2 and 3 combined seeing as 3 leads to 2. I've only seen a few strains in my life that couldn't yield 1oz+ from clone in a good environment.

Would you mind posting an example of your previous setup/growing routine with an average yield from said setup? Maybe then we could see what your limitations were with your last setup.

 

[Brazilianfire]

Milehighmedical: I appreciate all the info as i'm not advanced in growing smaller plants, I formerly grew trees. I couldn't stand the veg time and the 60 day wait so i decided perpetual is a great way to consume my meds! With smaller plants, it enables me to grow different strains for different ailments. So I'm at the crossroad between having minimal knowledge of smaller yielding perpetual plants. My strains are Perplex, Querkle, Jillybean and Powerplant. What do you mean by the 6x6 schematic?... Like smaller pots S.O.G. style.. like how many plants? Any details are good. Thank you brother.

 

[Yota]

I wanna see 1 GPW grow, any links?

 

[bterzz]

If I get 1 GPW from my 8x4, 1800w, 29 plant CHRONIC grow, (as you all said 'easy') I would be the happiest mother fucker on earth.