San Diego's Finest Cuts

[Richard Gozinya]

Humble guy, man you do some nice stuff, what a nice group of growers you guys are in this thread.

And I second the PM from PNC, just chopped my C-99, and Purple Erkle from them and I had a minor case of it had to cut a few days early but really like the C-99.


"Stay classy SD"

 

[HenDokuYaku]

Humble guy, man you do some nice stuff, what a nice group of growers you guys are in this thread.

And I second the PM from PNC, just chopped my C-99, and Purple Erkle from them and I had a minor case of it had to cut a few days early but really like the C-99.


"Stay classy SD"

I just have to third this, because I think it's a serious issue. I also brought home some nice PM from the Chem Ds I got from PNC. I've worked with ape a couple of times in the last few years and everytime his stuff comes with PM. Be aware..you bringing stuff from PNC, it most likely has PM, so treat it. Only thing works for me is Zone/Penetrator and that takes several applications.

I'm glad to have access to the genetics, but the PM will infest your whole garden.

 

[ESCOknows]

i juts made the trip up to pnc... not that bad of a drive , if you take the 73 and get through b4 traffic.. pretty much the easiest sign in ,verification out of any place..most of the clones i got were in so-so shape,... i mean i turn down clones that look like that all the time , but since i drove all the way up there i just took what i got and was happy that i had access to the genetics. if i ever needed anything again id hit um up.

 

[humbleguy]

seeing all this posts about pnc..shit I just got rid of downey powdery mildew from the rapid rooter cuts...

and I got rid of the hibiscus outside..that plant was a magnet for downey mildew..should have took a picture...the mildew was 2inches thick.

i thought it snowed in july it was so thick.

Zeinth, Rofl, that's giant whitefly dude, Hibiscus are notorious for it. Under the leaf? Accompanied by a black sticky substance on the top portion of the leaves directly under it?

Thanks Richard, this last batch is going to be exceptional. The pictured Lime bombs smell like gasoline margaritas and look to have an extra dose of salt on the rim.

People with PM- PM is easy to wipe out while your plants are clone size. Find a garden product with the active ingredient Mycobutanil. Dilution should be some where around 1 fl oz per gallon. Spray once a week for the first two weeks of veg. Do not use in flower.

Anybody know what this strange growth is on my Roadkill skunk seeding;

 

[praisehim.]

^^ went to motherf**in fresno yesterday for cuts.. shit it was far.. but well worth it : ) left 7 am..got home at 4:50 pm. some private crosses from a very private guy..im stoked.. three diferent kinds of bluberry alone..pics coming soon.

 

[Jalisco Kid]

I thought I read that there was going to be some s1's of the SD coming soon.

Humble that Lime makes me wish you were my neighbor. I would bring the blender and raicilla.
JK

 

[tdmaker2]

I'm gonna chime in...

I'm gonna chime in...

Thanks for the advice on the pm. We have Sulphur burners and regularly spray with beneficial teas. And I will take blame for having PM at various times in the last 4 years. And I would be a liar to day that I've never seen PM.

Some strains are very succeptable like the Romulan...where others are very resisitant. Now...we all can do things to prevent it and/or control it. You wouldn't believe how many stories I hear about people seeing it at week 6 or so and not knowing how to treat it just let it go...

We can all agree there is a difference between picking up a cut and noticing PM on the stalk or lightly on the leaves-which I will admit I've been guilty of doing. But that's a huge difference than someone getting a cut from me and vegging for 3-4 weeks and then seeing PM at week 4 or so...

So I will take my blame, but the best thing is prevention. Then when you do see it treat it right away. There is not excuse for guys saying they lost an entire garden to PM which is fully treatable. I'd take PM any day of the week than an outbreak of SPIDER MITES!

Ps-another great product is Eagle 20. Oh...and I'm APE.

So don't flame me...just want to own up to our mistakes but also even out the discussion a lil bit.

 

[BiG H3rB Tr3E]

Thanks for the advice on the pm. We have Sulphur burners and regularly spray with beneficial teas. And I will take blame for having PM at various times in the last 4 years. And I would be a liar to day that I've never seen PM.

Some strains are very succeptable like the Romulan...where others are very resisitant. Now...we all can do things to prevent it and/or control it. You wouldn't believe how many stories I hear about people seeing it at week 6 or so and not knowing how to treat it just let it go...

We can all agree there is a difference between picking up a cut and noticing PM on the stalk or lightly on the leaves-which I will admit I've been guilty of doing. But that's a huge difference than someone getting a cut from me and vegging for 3-4 weeks and then seeing PM at week 4 or so...

So I will take my blame, but the best thing is prevention. Then when you do see it treat it right away. There is not excuse for guys saying they lost an entire garden to PM which is fully treatable. I'd take PM any day of the week than an outbreak of SPIDER MITES!

Ps-another great product is Eagle 20. Oh...and I'm APE.

So don't flame me...just want to own up to our mistakes but also even out the discussion a lil bit.

well i hope you realize at the same time there is people who do not know what PM is or how to treat it. that is because most medical patients arent experienced in cannabis cultivation. specialy when it comes to disease. you yourself are the key example. on one hand you can chastise the people for having the PM problem and not being able to erradicate it, while on the other hand you yourself can not tame the beast because you yourself admit to passing clones infected with PM. i feel like you is pretty good person,, or at least thats what most of the sdfinest crew tells me, and that is probably the reason ive reservoired my true feeelings...aggghhh what am i trying to say.... we should all take preventive measures. the best way to rid yourself of PM is knowing how it is grown and how it develops. there is no point treating your plants if you have an enviorment that is susceptible to the infection. and alot of people are suggesting foilar sprays. well as we know humdidity is the main killer in this equaiton, so you have to be careful that your prevention and safeguard is not also the cause and source. san diego is a very trying town for cultivating. we got alot of opposition from pests, diseases and law enforcement. we got some of the highest electricity prices in the country. we dont need opposition from each other as well..

sulfur burners 2x a month and a treament of ZONE+PENETRATOR 1x a month during veg. and flowerroom ++ vegroom is hooked with a controller attached to fans,a/c,dehumidifier and c02 to make sure that the temp is never over 75f and the humiditity never gets abover 30%


peace and good weed.-BhT

 

[statusquo]

Some strains are very succeptable like the Romulan...where others are very resisitant. Now...we all can do things to prevent it and/or control it. You wouldn't believe how many stories I hear about people seeing it at week 6 or so and not knowing how to treat it just let it go...

We can all agree there is a difference between picking up a cut and noticing PM on the stalk or lightly on the leaves-which I will admit I've been guilty of doing. But that's a huge difference than someone getting a cut from me and vegging for 3-4 weeks and then seeing PM at week 4 or so...

It's nice to see you take some responsibility but unless you are telling people that your cuts are infected (and we all know, including yourself, that you knew before hand - it seems this PM issue with your cuts dates back over a year ago) then I can't help but be disturbed.

Not everyone knows about PM or how to treat it! The majority of people buying your cuts probably haven't even done any research whatsoever, unfortunately. I do realize this is their fault and you are not responsible for baby sitting but it wouldn't be that hard to educate about this one particular ongoing issue.

That being said I think you have done a great service saving all these genetics but my advice to anyone buying cuts from PNC or from people affiliated: assume your cuts will have PM in advance and take preventative measures in veg or early flower

 

[humbleguy]

Ape, Listen dude, no disrespect, you obviously have your propagation skills down and are getting good things into the hands of those in need but do those people a favor and get rid of the PM. It's a systemic infection and needs to be treated systemically. It's easy to do, I mentioned Mycobutanil and Tebucanzole, simply "wash" your plants, including your moms, for a few generations and serve it up straight. Sulphur won't do anything but control hyphae growth on the epidermis of the leaves. PM's hyphae actually grows into the leaves and lies dormant in the plant itself until conditions prevail hence my sudden disappointment at week 4 when my plants are HUGE and developing flowers rapidly. This sucks when I do everything in my power to ensure perfect growing conditions.


This is the last on this topic for me.

be prepared for an onslaught of Lime bomb pics, just got the 15 megapixel gear
see you guys Monday night

 

[HenDokuYaku]

I think everyone has said what I think as well. The thing that gets me is that you (ape) are criticizing for people for not removing PM from their girls while you have never (far as I can tell) have managed to contain your own PM problem. So, to ridicule people for not solving a problem you can't solve is kinda funny unless it ruins your beautiful ladies.

I should add that I rarely bring in clones and always treat them when I do, but I still had to treat my flower room after bringing the infected clones in as PM is airborne and can get messy quickly.

No flaming or anything, I just want medical patients to understand how serious of an issue it is, like the other posters.

 

[subrob]

what up ape?! long time no see round these parts! good to have you back...you know ive done my fair share of bitchin when your over at the pad....and everyone here has a right to say what they are saying....but just so you dont feel alienation from a city of growers you have done so much for, how bout we drop the pm thing for one minute,(and just one minute, as i have to go home and burn sulfur!haha) cuz its been a looooong time since i, or anyone else on this thread has expressed how thankful we all are for you holding this shit down the last few years. THANKS MY BROTHA! now, get your ass back in your mom room and get rid of that infernal, insidious powdery/downey mildew!!!!!!
---and no, im not doggin anyone out for calling it out, believe me, ive done more then my share of cussin....and i think everyone here is being respectful w thier complaints...but i remember growing(allegedly) back in the day when everyone had ONE cut they grew, and since noone knew who was growing, that was all you had...so thanks again man....sub

 

[Zoolander]

I'd also take pm over mites anyday

 

[Shan Diego]

Whenever I bring home a new cut, I think of it like I just brought home a new girl from the bar...I assume she's dirty, and I protect myself accordingly...whenever you start dating, you quarantine her from the other parts of your life you've got going, don't you?

Personally, I don't have any signs of PM. I use Actinovate...a genetically engineered bacteria that attacks PM spores and such...however, it is a prophylactic and it does not work as a treatment once you have an infestation.

I also use Organocide from Home de Pot...its mostly fish oil - so, ironically, it smells like a dirty girl - but it kills damn near everything and gives your leaves that showroom shine...

I'm glad this PM issue has been addressed and wish you all good growin'.

 

[Zeinth]

Zeinth, Rofl, that's giant whitefly dude, Hibiscus are notorious for it. Under the leaf? Accompanied by a black sticky substance on the top portion of the leaves directly under it?

Thanks Richard, this last batch is going to be exceptional. The pictured Lime bombs smell like gasoline margaritas and look to have an extra dose of salt on the rim.

People with PM- PM is easy to wipe out while your plants are clone size. Find a garden product with the active ingredient Mycobutanil. Dilution should be some where around 1 fl oz per gallon. Spray once a week for the first two weeks of veg. Do not use in flower.

Anybody know what this strange growth is on my Roadkill skunk seeding;

looks like a female pistil..



after looking at the hibiscus its a combination of white fly and downy mildew.



Powdery Mildew

appears as a​

dusty white to gray coating over​

the tops of leaf surfaces or other​

plant parts It will​

begin as discrete circular,​

powdery white spots. As these​

spots expand they will coalesce,​

producing a continuous matt of​

mildew (similar to dirt or dust).​

Downy Mildew​

, while having the​

same appearance, can usually be​

found on the underside of the leaves​

The top of a leaf​

infected with downy mildew has​

yellow lesions (foliage blights) and​

may be distorted The​

texture of Downy Mildew is more​

cottony or fuzzy than powdery​

mildew​

Once the fungus has started to sporulate,​

controlling additional symptoms is difficult at best​

and impossible usually.​

BOTRYTIS


I beleive it is the same strain that is been hybrid mutated from lettuce...I.e ventura county.

make sure that fans are off...or spores will attach.

any one use SUBDUE?? HHMMM...

metalaxyl (Apron, Ridomil, Subdue)

Generic Name: N-(2,6-Dimethylphenyl)-N-(Methoxyacetyl) Alanine
Methyl ester.
Common Name: Metalaxyl
Trade Names: Ridomil, Subdue, Apron, Proturf.
EPA Shaughnessy Code: 113501
Chemical Abstracts Service (CAS) Number: 57837-19-1
Year of Initial Registration: 1979
Date of Initial Registration Standard: December 1981
Pesticide Type: Systemic Fungicide
U.S. and Foreign Producers: Ciba-Geigy, O.M. Scott and Son, Co.
Wilbur-Ellis, and Gustafson.


Application Sites: Metalaxyl is registered for use on over 100
agricultural crops (including more than 30 seed treatment uses).
Metalaxyl is also registered for ornamental and turf uses.

- Major Uses: More than 90% of the total poundage of metalaxyl used
domestically is used in the following ten crops/sites: tobacco, turf,
potatoes, ornamentals, soybean (seed treatment), onions, citrus,
cucurbits, tomatoes, and cotton.


well ive watched this crap spread....its at several coops now.


ive seen p.m...this is different...its in the soil/coco...and goes dormant.








When conditions are favourable transmission is by asexual spores, usually in spring and summer. These develop into the hypae which come together to form the mycelium. Sexual spores develop in less favourable conditions and these can survive on fallen leaves until more suitable conditions return



I say tmv is a myth...I think its a mutated strain of downey mildew....go ahead laugh...

also some soils or coco will have mushrooms...ya...they are hosts for this Downy mildew...and attack plants of sativa genis...hhmmm

http://www.ces.ncsu.edu/depts/pp/cucurbit/thedisease.php


Those little yellow mushrooms i was biching about 2 months ago were the harbingers of this containgen. also other p.cubinsis harbour this unstopable fungi.

LETS WORK TOGETHER TO STOP THIS ATTACK OF FUNGI..WE GOT ENOUGH TROUBLE WITH MEETINGS ON THE 8TH OF OCTOBER....YA..THEY WANT TO CLOSE ALL COOPS IN SOCAL....

 

[Richard Gozinya]

Ape, thank you for owning up on the PM, I'm not to disturbed about it the c-99 looked fantastic and like Sub said you are taking on a big challenge to help the community. Alot of folks would not own up to it, so that says a lot about your character. I hope you can tackle it and keep the supply of great genetics flowing.

Humble, your lime bomb ever go by the name"Incredible Hulk"?

 

[hatchish]

if APE see's this please contact me i need the gdp or anyone else that has the same cut as APE i need it for sleep!ive grown this stuff and its killer need more thanks ape your friend from WT.

 

[Doco]

Good to see you here Ape - I tried to call your cell after the raids to see if you made it through okay but your mailbox was full. Still holding it down in IB so give me a shout sometime.
Mark

 

[paulobaca]

Considering all the constructive critisism of Ape's Cuts, I would still go with his cuts over others.

Atleast the cuts aren't fake like somebody else's, who is quick to criticize on this thread.

I've gotten several fakes over the last couple of years. There is nothing you can do to protect yourself, all that work goes to crap. At least with PM you know what you are dealing with.

 

[NOYB]

There is not excuse for guys saying they lost an entire garden to PM which is fully treatable. I'd take PM any day of the week than an outbreak of SPIDER MITES!

Ps-another great product is Eagle 20. Oh...and I'm APE.

Jeez...I'd take mites over PM any day. In every instance over the last 5 or so years when I used the 'proper' treatment the mites were gone in a few days and did not reappear unless reintroduced somehow. Those frikkin PM spores though...yikes! I do believe that it can become systemic. I got some Eagle 20 from a peep and yet to try it. My cuts were clean then PM showed up a recently. Hadn't seen it it a few months but now with it growing like crazy this time of year outdoors spores filling the air. It's showing up on the fan leaves now and not on the petioles so not systemic IMO.