Wow thats cool. Kind of a "less is more" thing. Well I'm glad to know that's the case. Can I do this whenever I want, or do I need to limit it?
This is right, right? Can someone confirm?
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Wow thats cool. Kind of a "less is more" thing. Well I'm glad to know that's the case. Can I do this whenever I want, or do I need to limit it?
Cool, thanks for the info man!
It's been a couple days since the watering where I had noticed the runoff was about pH 5.0.
I've made no adjustments since then and left everything just as it was.
Plants look excellent, building bigger frostier buds every day!
It's been a couple days since the watering where I had noticed the runoff was about pH 5.0.
I've made no adjustments since then and left everything just as it was.
Plants look excellent, building bigger frostier buds every day!
plantsman
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Man, ur plants look lovely... I certainly dont think you've got anything to worry about, lol.
Anyway, I'm loving the easy-tea method of a castings slurry. Brilliant!
Good luck with your grow dude, my tips for a new grower would be:
1.) Get a contactor for your light timer. It is paramount if you have a HID lamp.
2.) Take precautions against bugs and mites. Using neem oil seems to be the most recommended orgainic method.
...oh... and dont tell anyone!
Peace, P'man
Anyway, I'm loving the easy-tea method of a castings slurry. Brilliant!
Good luck with your grow dude, my tips for a new grower would be:
1.) Get a contactor for your light timer. It is paramount if you have a HID lamp.
2.) Take precautions against bugs and mites. Using neem oil seems to be the most recommended orgainic method.
...oh... and dont tell anyone!
Peace, P'man
Thanks man!! I like your tips.
Question, do you use neem as a preventative, in the waterings or?? Let me know if you have a chance!
Question, do you use neem as a preventative, in the waterings or?? Let me know if you have a chance!
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vonforne
For cheap pots hit the Garden Center and ask for used ones. I used to get them in Flörida for .10 cents each for 3.5 gallons. E-bay that extra bulb.
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Thanks for info. Does it bother the leaves at all? Can I use it right up until flowering . . . I suppose I should just do a search
Thanks for the tips. Buying used pots is an idea I like . . . the 7 gallon pots I have were like $4 a piece . . .
The 15 gallons pots were $7.50, ridiculous . . .
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vonforne
Gotta save those dollars.
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I have to get around to building one of those. Looks like I will be brushing up on my Microbeman organics this week end.
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BongRipkenJR.
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When I first did soil organics I did that with my first bloom tea. i didnt brew it with an air stone. I just mixed everything and poured it on then watered it later. It worked fine, but 1 of the plants which was some bagseed really didnt like it. It got burned all to hell. All the other ones were great though and I saw great numbers and quality. Just be careful if you decide to do that.
neem oil can be foliar sprayed right up to flowering and maybe a week or 2 in if you really need to.
i find if i spray once or twice as a matter of course in veg i never get problems.
8ml per litre of warm water with 5ml of washing up liquid (i use a bio-degradable one)
shake and spray. ALL over.
i find if i spray once or twice as a matter of course in veg i never get problems.
8ml per litre of warm water with 5ml of washing up liquid (i use a bio-degradable one)
shake and spray. ALL over.
I found this highly critical take on neem oil. If it's to be believed, I am wasting my time by using it. interesting...
what did this "bloom tea" have in it? i was suggesting just wormcastings or compost. which imo will never burn your plants. when adding things like guanos and such the chances of over fert become higher. but of course thats why the saying goes "little but often"
Did you add anything besides EWC when you did this?
I was gonna use guano tea this round, but decided just yesterday not too, only because there is a possibility i'll eff it up and burn them. However remote that possibility, I don't care. I just want 'em to finish healthy, and the BioBloom doesn't seem bother them at all.
Hmm, ok. Most of the threads I've read where people get mold, mites, etc, it seems much much harder to get rid of once you have it, then to just do what you're suggesting and prevent it. And ounce of prevention . . . .
I have a product called AZAMAX, wonder if that'll work as well?
Interesting. Seems to suggest it's outperformed even by soapy water. It also says that it's harmed some plants on the basis that it kills the beneficial fungi attached to the roots. I already mixed up my next batch of soil, and added some mychorizzal spores to the mix and lime and am letting "ferment" or whate-have-you in 15 gallon buckets until I plan to use, in about 1.5 months. That way some of it can a little more broken down.
Does this mean that a neem drench would kill the fungus I'm currently trying to get to colonize?
BongRipkenJR.
Active member
It was actually a Chilean sea bird guano, earth juice catalyst, a little age old grow veg(for nitrogen), and I forgot what else. So, yeah it can burn if not careful I was actually given the recipe by a dude, and when I used it again, but brewed it like it said I had way better results. EWC and water shouldnt do anything bad though. That was when I was a beginner though. I have always liked pushing plants to the limits though and then flushing for longer than I need to. I believe a week and a half to two week flush is imperative in soil. A lot of organic growers I know dont even flush and the bud suffers greatly even when there are no added nutrients.
I was actually given the recipe by a dude, and when I used it again, but brewed it like it said I had way better results. EWC and water shouldnt do anything bad though. That was when I was a beginner though. I have always liked pushing plants to the limits though and then flushing for longer than I need to. I believe a week and a half to two week flush is imperative in soil. A lot of organic growers I know dont even flush and the bud suffers greatly even when there are no added nutrients.
BongRipkenJR.
Active member
Interesting. Seems to suggest it's outperformed even by soapy water. It also says that it's harmed some plants on the basis that it kills the beneficial fungi attached to the roots. I already mixed up my next batch of soil, and added some mychorizzal spores to the mix and lime and am letting "ferment" or whate-have-you in 15 gallon buckets until I plan to use, in about 1.5 months. That way some of it can a little more broken down.
Does this mean that a neem drench would kill the fungus I'm currently trying to get to colonize?[/QUOTE]
I dont know if anyone will agree with me here, but by adding the mychoriza I would also add some lacto bacillus bacteria to that. Maybe sub culture B? There are plenty of other types of Lacto bacillus though. I really like what it has been doing for my outdoor. I also do a foliar spray with em1(a bacillus product) and they always seem so lively! I love it. Neem oil always seems like a waste of time for me. I like it as a preventative spray in the beginning stages of growth, but it seems to diminish growth later on. I hardly think it does much at all. Strong healthy roots and a good environment are your best bet against pests.
Does this mean that a neem drench would kill the fungus I'm currently trying to get to colonize?[/QUOTE]
I dont know if anyone will agree with me here, but by adding the mychoriza I would also add some lacto bacillus bacteria to that. Maybe sub culture B? There are plenty of other types of Lacto bacillus though. I really like what it has been doing for my outdoor. I also do a foliar spray with em1(a bacillus product) and they always seem so lively! I love it. Neem oil always seems like a waste of time for me. I like it as a preventative spray in the beginning stages of growth, but it seems to diminish growth later on. I hardly think it does much at all. Strong healthy roots and a good environment are your best bet against pests.
Just a reminder that endomycorrhizal spores only sprout and colonize in contact with roots. You won't have any colonization prior to planting. I believe it is likely a waste to mix them through your soil rather than just placing them in/on the root zone.
Good that you are not flushing. If one is using only organic amendments there is nothing to flush. I do, of course, wonder about the integrity of some of the bottled 'nutrients' on the market.
Hmm, ok so maybe best off in the future to put the spores on roots when I move young plants outta the 4" square pots?
Yah I really agree with the "don't flush" when it comes to organics. I've followed the advice given to me early on by you and others in my first thread regarding pH about 4 weeks ago, and things are looking excellent, I really can't thank you guys enough . . .
when i repot for the final time i put the smaller pot with the plant in it into the big pot, top it up with soil and pat it down, then carefully remove the smaller pot, leaving the mould of it in the soil. then i sprinkle a teaspoon full of myco powder in the bottom and drop the plant into the hole (without the pot!). then the roots are in direct contact with the myco spores. dont forget to water it in!
outside you are right, but indoors spider mites will give you big problems sometimes. neem works and is completely natural. i dont really use it as a soil drench - i may spray the surface if i have gnats, but as a foliar spray it has been totally successful for me.
this is a good thread that explains just how special neem is.
http://icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?t=4485
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outside you are right, but indoors spider mites will give you big problems sometimes. neem works and is completely natural. i dont really use it as a soil drench - i may spray the surface if i have gnats, but as a foliar spray it has been totally successful for me.
this is a good thread that explains just how special neem is.
http://icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?t=4485
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