i find its normal for them to sag a little until they form roots and then they will straiten up and stand to attention
good luck bro keep us posted
good luck bro keep us posted
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Williams Wonder x Semango grow in coco/grow bags
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wsmith
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the ladies need some air!
the ladies need some air!
well I just made a trip to our local pharmacy and bought a heating pad to put under the seedlings' tray, and try to get a fan to replace my two burnt out honeywell air movers. No dice on the fan, so I opted to leave an extra hour of dark for the ladies. When the HPS came on today they looked a little too saggy and it was way too hot in there even with the air cranked. Called up a friend who works in a hot shop, he has an industrial blower lying around that he can bring over within the next half hour...so in lieu of the actual fan for my hood which I can't obtain right this minute I'm going to bolt the sucker to the back partition of my space and let it exhaust in to the next room. I'm going to duct it over to the 6" fixture on the hood and reorient the light if I have to, and then run that for some good strong negative air. Hopefully that keeps the temp under control enough for me to be able to keep using the 1000. I have another 450 watt HPS in there but I think with proper ventilation this light will really do some rad things in there...but ventilation! Last time I ran the 1000 and both other 450s at once, I thought I'd be OK with just the 1000 and my existing HVAC in the room, no dice.
Back to the seedlings, they are looking happy hopefully the extra heat there moves them along a lil better. And the clones are still on their way up
I started setting up another area for veg with the MH I had in that room, and I found another spot I want to maybe fill up with some CFLs to fill up with clones and seedlings as I get them going. As soon as I get this damn industrial blower my pulse will drop back down to normal I saw them sag and I was immediately on that shit like flies on....well...shit! It's really not that bad, I've seen them sag some at the beginning of lights on on watering days, but I want to flower soon and I don't want hermies or any heatstressed plants driving me bonkers. Speaking of flower I'm glad this happened during veg. I don't so much mind messing with the lights while I'm vegging but once I go 12 12 I want to stay that way smooth sailing until the end. Thank god for good friends when your fans both decide to spontaneously burn out!
the ladies need some air!
well I just made a trip to our local pharmacy and bought a heating pad to put under the seedlings' tray, and try to get a fan to replace my two burnt out honeywell air movers. No dice on the fan, so I opted to leave an extra hour of dark for the ladies. When the HPS came on today they looked a little too saggy and it was way too hot in there even with the air cranked. Called up a friend who works in a hot shop, he has an industrial blower lying around that he can bring over within the next half hour...so in lieu of the actual fan for my hood which I can't obtain right this minute I'm going to bolt the sucker to the back partition of my space and let it exhaust in to the next room. I'm going to duct it over to the 6" fixture on the hood and reorient the light if I have to, and then run that for some good strong negative air. Hopefully that keeps the temp under control enough for me to be able to keep using the 1000. I have another 450 watt HPS in there but I think with proper ventilation this light will really do some rad things in there...but ventilation! Last time I ran the 1000 and both other 450s at once, I thought I'd be OK with just the 1000 and my existing HVAC in the room, no dice.
Back to the seedlings, they are looking happy hopefully the extra heat there moves them along a lil better. And the clones are still on their way up
I started setting up another area for veg with the MH I had in that room, and I found another spot I want to maybe fill up with some CFLs to fill up with clones and seedlings as I get them going. As soon as I get this damn industrial blower my pulse will drop back down to normal I saw them sag and I was immediately on that shit like flies on....well...shit! It's really not that bad, I've seen them sag some at the beginning of lights on on watering days, but I want to flower soon and I don't want hermies or any heatstressed plants driving me bonkers. Speaking of flower I'm glad this happened during veg. I don't so much mind messing with the lights while I'm vegging but once I go 12 12 I want to stay that way smooth sailing until the end. Thank god for good friends when your fans both decide to spontaneously burn out!
wsmith
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it's all under control thank god!
it's all under control thank god!
alright feeling a lot better my pal is almost here with the blower, and I totally earned my MacGuyver merit badge for the month.
I reoriented the air cooled hood so I can do a straight run to the partition wall I have up, and cut a 6" hole in it . I don't have any flex duct lying around here but this isn't my first experience setting up negative air in a pinch (years in the construction industry
) so I pulled an old chestnut out...cut up two heavy black contractor bags and taped them together to form a temporary duct that I ran from the lamp hood through my hole in the wall. Ideally I'm going to pick up a little blower from the hydro store and just clamp it to the inside of the wall but for now we're just going through it and I'm wrapping the intake side of the blower with the free end of the duct to pull some air through the hood.
As soon as I get the blower hooked up I'm going to fire up the lamp again and hopefully I won't have to keep my HVAC so cranked anymore, and maybe even drop the lamp a bit.
The girls are already perking back up.
it's all under control thank god!
alright feeling a lot better my pal is almost here with the blower, and I totally earned my MacGuyver merit badge for the month.
I reoriented the air cooled hood so I can do a straight run to the partition wall I have up, and cut a 6" hole in it . I don't have any flex duct lying around here but this isn't my first experience setting up negative air in a pinch (years in the construction industry
) so I pulled an old chestnut out...cut up two heavy black contractor bags and taped them together to form a temporary duct that I ran from the lamp hood through my hole in the wall. Ideally I'm going to pick up a little blower from the hydro store and just clamp it to the inside of the wall but for now we're just going through it and I'm wrapping the intake side of the blower with the free end of the duct to pull some air through the hood.As soon as I get the blower hooked up I'm going to fire up the lamp again and hopefully I won't have to keep my HVAC so cranked anymore, and maybe even drop the lamp a bit.
The girls are already perking back up.
wsmith
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H2O2 to ease the stress on overwatered plants?
H2O2 to ease the stress on overwatered plants?
Ok, so I have a question to pose that I've looked in to a bit and I think I have figured out. I just want to know that the conclusion I have drawn is not going to worsen my problem.
So I grossly overwatered for two feeding days, that and the heat making my pretty girls droopy. I fixed the temp and ventilation and the plants are coming back around but not as fast as I expected. I would normally be watering this light cycle but I am not going to in order to let things dry out a bit, bags are still a decent weight and the tops are still moist. When I water again tomorrow, I was considering using a 3% H2O2 as my base before adding my nutes in order to bring some oxygen to my roots since they are already a bit waterlogged, to sustain them while the water level in the surrounding media gets back to kosher.
Also I was going to cut my watering volume back to what I was using initially because on that regimen they were healthy and strong.
I want to make sure that the roots don't get damaged while oxygen starved from a couple of cycles of too much water and I have read that they can be damaged quickly and I have noticed less growth this week than I would expect from history.
On a different note I transplanted several seedlings tonight, my clones are doing well but no real roots yet.
I would post pictures but the HPS ballast interferes with my cheapo phone camera and makes the pics all stripy, if I'm here when it goes dark I'll use an incandescent for a second and try and snap a pic but I'm hoping someone vets my plan before then, it is reassuring to me to get a second opinion before I add new chemicals to my plants food and my buddy is out of town for a few weeks for work so I can't ask him. He'd probably just tell me to forget the H2O2 and just cut the watering back but I think I have a valid case for a little H2O2.
Bottom line: will a little H2O2 hurt my girls?
H2O2 to ease the stress on overwatered plants?
Ok, so I have a question to pose that I've looked in to a bit and I think I have figured out. I just want to know that the conclusion I have drawn is not going to worsen my problem.
So I grossly overwatered for two feeding days, that and the heat making my pretty girls droopy. I fixed the temp and ventilation and the plants are coming back around but not as fast as I expected. I would normally be watering this light cycle but I am not going to in order to let things dry out a bit, bags are still a decent weight and the tops are still moist. When I water again tomorrow, I was considering using a 3% H2O2 as my base before adding my nutes in order to bring some oxygen to my roots since they are already a bit waterlogged, to sustain them while the water level in the surrounding media gets back to kosher.
Also I was going to cut my watering volume back to what I was using initially because on that regimen they were healthy and strong.
I want to make sure that the roots don't get damaged while oxygen starved from a couple of cycles of too much water and I have read that they can be damaged quickly and I have noticed less growth this week than I would expect from history.
On a different note I transplanted several seedlings tonight, my clones are doing well but no real roots yet.
I would post pictures but the HPS ballast interferes with my cheapo phone camera and makes the pics all stripy, if I'm here when it goes dark I'll use an incandescent for a second and try and snap a pic but I'm hoping someone vets my plan before then, it is reassuring to me to get a second opinion before I add new chemicals to my plants food and my buddy is out of town for a few weeks for work so I can't ask him. He'd probably just tell me to forget the H2O2 and just cut the watering back but I think I have a valid case for a little H2O2.
Bottom line: will a little H2O2 hurt my girls?
hey bro i cant say about the h2o2 i have never used it but i have read about people using it with good results
With the watering i wouldn't water to a schedule but more when the pots dry out a little on top, letting the roots dry a Little they will search for water creating a bigger root ball
plants will transpire at different rates according to their size and conditions
IMO if you are not letting them dry a little they will get water logged
do they sit in runoff??
good luck
With the watering i wouldn't water to a schedule but more when the pots dry out a little on top, letting the roots dry a Little they will search for water creating a bigger root ball
plants will transpire at different rates according to their size and conditions
IMO if you are not letting them dry a little they will get water logged
do they sit in runoff??
good luck
wsmith
Member
cool, they aren't sitting in run off I have a decent drainage set up, but I more than doubled my watering volume over a couple of days and I think that is what did it. I'm going to wait for the tops to dry off before watering again, I'm sure thats the culprit. I may add H2O2 to the feeding of one or two of them just to see how they react. I have good root systems on them all, they have lots of roots all the way out to the sides of the bags they are in and they look healthy and bright white to me but I wanted to make sure I didn't hurt them with my little bit of abusive watering.
Thanks again for the input, I'm going to let them alone until they seem thirsty and then go from there.
Thanks again for the input, I'm going to let them alone until they seem thirsty and then go from there.
wsmith
Member
Really I was thinking the H2O2 would help the roots deep in the bag, in the center that isn't going to dry out as fast as whats visible, I was worried about that staying oversaturated and I wanted to help them with the extra oxygen. I'm going to wait on it but when I water next I'm definitely doing a little experiment on a couple of them if they have not come back around all the way
wsmith
Member
update...
update...
Well I have 4 nice seedlings transplanted in to little pots, and my 3 clones are alive in the bubbler but haven't shown roots yet. I moved them a little higher above the water thinking that might encourage them to root more. Is it bad to touch them up with some more Rootech if they haven't shown roots and it's been a week? They're other wise healthy.
I got a couple more CFL lights for the closet with the cloner where I was starting the seeds to veg the little ones out for a bit.
The 7 under the HPS are doing OK, not much change there for better or worse since I started correcting my watering back to normal. I'm going to go pick up some peroxide and see if that gives them a little boost in recovery since the top sets of leaves haven't perked up much at all yet. I'll shut the noisy ballast off for a bit later and get a couple of pictures tonight of their rather sorry condition. I went and got a section of semirigid 6" duct and ran it through my wall to a fan I mated to it with some plastic sheeting, but light gets through and I want to go buy a bathroom exhaust fan and mount it backwards to the duct such that it acts as a light trap as well.
update...
Well I have 4 nice seedlings transplanted in to little pots, and my 3 clones are alive in the bubbler but haven't shown roots yet. I moved them a little higher above the water thinking that might encourage them to root more. Is it bad to touch them up with some more Rootech if they haven't shown roots and it's been a week? They're other wise healthy.
I got a couple more CFL lights for the closet with the cloner where I was starting the seeds to veg the little ones out for a bit.
The 7 under the HPS are doing OK, not much change there for better or worse since I started correcting my watering back to normal. I'm going to go pick up some peroxide and see if that gives them a little boost in recovery since the top sets of leaves haven't perked up much at all yet. I'll shut the noisy ballast off for a bit later and get a couple of pictures tonight of their rather sorry condition. I went and got a section of semirigid 6" duct and ran it through my wall to a fan I mated to it with some plastic sheeting, but light gets through and I want to go buy a bathroom exhaust fan and mount it backwards to the duct such that it acts as a light trap as well.
wsmith
Member
More goodness! The three clonebabies in the previous post all sprouted tons of little roots up the stem, which I attribute to my gentle love slashes with a razor and thorough soaking in Rootech gel prior to putting them in the cloner. So I was motivated to attack the 22" bagseed beast with a razor again and take a few more getting me now to six clones. The airstones in my bubbler don't have quite enough oomph to really light up my other seven sites and since three had roots already, I'm ok with that. My seedlings, they are taking off. Instead of using my friends nute schedule I'm trying straight Lucas Formula with them because it seems to work for others and it saves me some scheduling headaches when I want to keep cloning and get perpetual here
The seedlings and CFLs and cloner, they are getting moved this week up on the top shelf of the closet they are in now and I'm going to put my MH and my 450 watt HPS in there. The HPS is going to be dark for now I am happy with using the MH for veg it gives me nice green plants and 900 watts is too much for that closet anyway... I changed the 1000 watt room over to 12/12 just today after taking my last clones because I want to turn over the seven plants in there fast and get ready to do everything even better with the next batch (I'm going to keep cloning and starting seeds until I fill the flower room and the veg closet). So I have gone from my original seven plants, now to 18, in just a couple weeks with some time and loooooooove. And since my ability to take clones is going to increase exponentially with the number of subjects I have to work on and my number of subjects is going to blow up as I'm taking clones...I wish I could turn time forward and skip to seeing a full shelf a full closet and a full room!
I may be able to cheat a bit there though, I just landed a source for some cheap white widow clones around my vicinity so if that turns out to my favor I have it worked out that I'm buying twenty...although since I have confidence in my clone-fu now I think I would be happy with ten but they are so damn cheap and I want to fill up this space it's too empty in here!!!
much love! i'll put up some pictures of my lovely roots later.
The seedlings and CFLs and cloner, they are getting moved this week up on the top shelf of the closet they are in now and I'm going to put my MH and my 450 watt HPS in there. The HPS is going to be dark for now I am happy with using the MH for veg it gives me nice green plants and 900 watts is too much for that closet anyway... I changed the 1000 watt room over to 12/12 just today after taking my last clones because I want to turn over the seven plants in there fast and get ready to do everything even better with the next batch (I'm going to keep cloning and starting seeds until I fill the flower room and the veg closet). So I have gone from my original seven plants, now to 18, in just a couple weeks with some time and loooooooove. And since my ability to take clones is going to increase exponentially with the number of subjects I have to work on and my number of subjects is going to blow up as I'm taking clones...I wish I could turn time forward and skip to seeing a full shelf a full closet and a full room!
I may be able to cheat a bit there though, I just landed a source for some cheap white widow clones around my vicinity so if that turns out to my favor I have it worked out that I'm buying twenty...although since I have confidence in my clone-fu now I think I would be happy with ten but they are so damn cheap and I want to fill up this space it's too empty in here!!!
much love! i'll put up some pictures of my lovely roots later.
wsmith
Member
I think it may be time to start recycling my old crummy expanding brick salty yuck coco in to mushroom substrate while I wait for fun stuff to happen to my ladies...so maybe I order some spores later this week and build that monotub I was thinking about oh to garden indoors! and to find something to do with all of the coco i'm going to go through once I get that flower room the way I want it. Other than driving it 25 miles away to a strange dumpster in a stranger place. Recycle!
I am pretty damn happy to have seen those roots today on all three clones that just really made my day. And there are quite a bunch of healthy little nubs on them. When I post up some pictures I'd like so much if someone could let me know whether it is ok to transplant them in to little pots with coco yet, there aren't long visible tap roots but...you'll see. I want to be damn sure I don't screw it up at this point that would be a downer!
oh to garden indoors! and to find something to do with all of the coco i'm going to go through once I get that flower room the way I want it. Other than driving it 25 miles away to a strange dumpster in a stranger place. Recycle!I am pretty damn happy to have seen those roots today on all three clones that just really made my day. And there are quite a bunch of healthy little nubs on them. When I post up some pictures I'd like so much if someone could let me know whether it is ok to transplant them in to little pots with coco yet, there aren't long visible tap roots but...you'll see. I want to be damn sure I don't screw it up at this point that would be a downer!
hey bro good to hear your clones have roots, as far as transplanting into coco now i dont see why not i clone in coco with high success rates
recycle that coco i put my old coco into my vege patch works great holds water and adds aeration to my shit soil
recycle that coco i put my old coco into my vege patch works great holds water and adds aeration to my shit soil
wsmith
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attack of the clones
attack of the clones
now i feel confident enough to get razor happy with the shrub I was growing and this is what happened. tomorrow i want to pick up a couple more airstones for the other side of my bubbler, i don't think it gets enough aeration over there for my liking as it is.
five of these are seedlings, 3 clones with roots like the ones below transplanted in to pots of coco tonight and 6 fresh cuttings popped in the bubbler.
maybe taking more clones tomorrow night but i think i'm happy for the moment. give the girl a chance to recover she just got violated six times in a row.
attack of the clones
now i feel confident enough to get razor happy with the shrub I was growing and this is what happened. tomorrow i want to pick up a couple more airstones for the other side of my bubbler, i don't think it gets enough aeration over there for my liking as it is.
five of these are seedlings, 3 clones with roots like the ones below transplanted in to pots of coco tonight and 6 fresh cuttings popped in the bubbler.
maybe taking more clones tomorrow night but i think i'm happy for the moment. give the girl a chance to recover she just got violated six times in a row.
wsmith
Member
update...'branching out'
update...'branching out'
The plant I took most of my clones from is looking nice and happy under the MH light in my other room, I have it running 24 hours on in there off to the side of the bubbler. I moved the little clones and my seedlings under it as well, and pulled one of the willies x semango crosses back under it too (plant was slower than the rest and I didn't want to start flowering it yet).
I put the four left under the HPS on 12/12 and raised the nute concentration by double today. The HPS is on at night 6pm-6am so I can shut off my central air and watch my electric bill drop in here a bit, its cooling down enough that my exhaust fan is keeping things livable in what is now the flower room.
All of the clones are looking strong, the fresh cuts are perking up a bit, no wilted or dead cuts so far. Didn't pick up more airstones yet so I don't have more going, although my neighbor has some Roma tomatos he wants me to clone for him and I said I would. Why not, more practice and I get a couple tomato plants out of it. Caprese salad in a couple months? Tasty.
So...today it's all good.
update...'branching out'
The plant I took most of my clones from is looking nice and happy under the MH light in my other room, I have it running 24 hours on in there off to the side of the bubbler. I moved the little clones and my seedlings under it as well, and pulled one of the willies x semango crosses back under it too (plant was slower than the rest and I didn't want to start flowering it yet).
I put the four left under the HPS on 12/12 and raised the nute concentration by double today. The HPS is on at night 6pm-6am so I can shut off my central air and watch my electric bill drop in here a bit, its cooling down enough that my exhaust fan is keeping things livable in what is now the flower room.
All of the clones are looking strong, the fresh cuts are perking up a bit, no wilted or dead cuts so far. Didn't pick up more airstones yet so I don't have more going, although my neighbor has some Roma tomatos he wants me to clone for him and I said I would. Why not, more practice and I get a couple tomato plants out of it. Caprese salad in a couple months? Tasty.
So...today it's all good.
wsmith
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update
update
smooth sailing here overall so far. i am up to 26 ladies now. one of my seedlings turned out to be a nice pretty indica plant which I'm looking forward to vegging forever and taking some clones off of. Doing a lot of transplanting this week. I took the mom which I'd been cloning and moved her in to a five gallon bucket, the girl is so tall she was hitting my MH light...watch out for the big girls as they say so I moved her in to the flower room to finish. There are six in there right now. Five willies x semango and the mother of unknown genetics. I transplanted three more willies x semango plants in to 2.5 gallon bags today in veg, and moved some clones in to the six inch pots I use in between stages. My last round of rooted clones is looking ok and bushing out a bit.
I'm loving the root growth the H2O2 is promoting so I'm using it at 30ml/gallon for everything. And it seems to be helping my PM problem I had in my veg room.
Everything in there is under either 24H MH or CFL 24H, daily15 watering as needed with 6ml micro, 9ml bloom, 60ml H2O2 per 2 gallons RO water.
Flower is on my variant of my buddies modified Lucas schedule that incorporates some KoolBloom here and there and drops out the Micro for a bit mid flower. Everything is nice and big and bushy and green in there, I have to run out the door now but expect some pictures later tonight.
My plans for a perpetual harvest are being realized, I have plants pretty much all across the life stages except for finished product but we're getting there and with the amount of time I have been giving these babies I'm 99% confident I'm not fucking it up this time around -- bagseed and four plants to 26 now? I'm happy with those numbers for sure. My clones -- 100% success rate so far and I've done about 15.
I take a cut with scissors or whatever, fill a shotglass with RO water, make the 45 degree cut under water where I rough it up a bit too, soak that in my Rootech for a minute or so and then in to the bubbler...a few days later, roots start to show and then finish in a 9oz beercup with my coco until I see roots out the holes I drilled in the bottom of the cups and then transplant to the 6" pot. I have pictures of my first three clones looking all healthy I'm going to post up later too. The ones right behind them are rooted and all good but they arent quite so green because they came off mom at a bad time. But they're healthy at any rate. The next five are in the bubbler looking sexy as all hell no drooping and I think I got my cut fu nailed down.
Plans are to be flowering more plants in the next two weeks, stepping more up in to bags, and starting more clones off the new generation. I have an idea who my willies x semango mom is going to be, who my bagseed wonder mom is going to be, and I am totally cutting one or two off of that pretty little indica when the time is right to veg out for my personal fun but I don't want too many of them filling up my room taking forever to veg. I definitely want to preserve that strain though it just looks so damn cool with its funny dark green leaves. Supposedly its grandaddy purple haze according to the kid that sold me the jar I pulled the seed out of but everybody and their grandmother calls their shit grandaddy purp around here when they want to whack you for some retarded amount of money for their smoke. I don't care what it is, it looks cool and it's fun to grow, I'm sure with enough looooooooove it'll show me some in return and we'll have some fun after flower
I'll put up some pics later lost my camera cable so I have to copy off an SD card and I'm busy as fuck all whatever with these girls, working on my relatively new veg setup and doing my other shit to keep teh billz paid while this all takes off
Oh yeah the coco.
I dont want to get caught up in another mess right now monotubs sound cool but growing killer cannabis is my priority right now...and so is saving money because I'm pushing it to the limit right now wallet wise... so actually I'm using that CocoTek brick shit I had, in fact the stuff I just transplanted is in stuff from my last grow that I washed really good and some unused leftover brick shit mixed with unused left over atami bcuzz.
Everything goes in a five gallon bucket I drilled lotsa holes in the bottom of, and I pour about six gallons of RO water and FloraKleen and H2O2 through it to strip out all the salts and nutes and shit. Stir it up real nice and let it drain. Then its another fifteen or so gallons of RO water and H2O2 through it and then we pour a few gallons of my veg blend through it to get it nice and presoaked. And then we put plants in it and now we see what happens. So far so good. So maybe me buying stock in Atami is not in my future. I think I can deal with these bricks and atami 50 50d together and save a buttload of money.
Comments? Love em.
update
smooth sailing here overall so far. i am up to 26 ladies now. one of my seedlings turned out to be a nice pretty indica plant which I'm looking forward to vegging forever and taking some clones off of. Doing a lot of transplanting this week. I took the mom which I'd been cloning and moved her in to a five gallon bucket, the girl is so tall she was hitting my MH light...watch out for the big girls as they say
so I moved her in to the flower room to finish. There are six in there right now. Five willies x semango and the mother of unknown genetics. I transplanted three more willies x semango plants in to 2.5 gallon bags today in veg, and moved some clones in to the six inch pots I use in between stages. My last round of rooted clones is looking ok and bushing out a bit.I'm loving the root growth the H2O2 is promoting so I'm using it at 30ml/gallon for everything. And it seems to be helping my PM problem I had in my veg room.
Everything in there is under either 24H MH or CFL 24H, daily15 watering as needed with 6ml micro, 9ml bloom, 60ml H2O2 per 2 gallons RO water.
Flower is on my variant of my buddies modified Lucas schedule that incorporates some KoolBloom here and there and drops out the Micro for a bit mid flower. Everything is nice and big and bushy and green in there, I have to run out the door now but expect some pictures later tonight.
My plans for a perpetual harvest are being realized, I have plants pretty much all across the life stages except for finished product but we're getting there and with the amount of time I have been giving these babies I'm 99% confident I'm not fucking it up this time around -- bagseed and four plants to 26 now? I'm happy with those numbers for sure. My clones -- 100% success rate so far and I've done about 15.
I take a cut with scissors or whatever, fill a shotglass with RO water, make the 45 degree cut under water where I rough it up a bit too, soak that in my Rootech for a minute or so and then in to the bubbler...a few days later, roots start to show and then finish in a 9oz beercup with my coco until I see roots out the holes I drilled in the bottom of the cups and then transplant to the 6" pot. I have pictures of my first three clones looking all healthy I'm going to post up later too. The ones right behind them are rooted and all good but they arent quite so green because they came off mom at a bad time. But they're healthy at any rate. The next five are in the bubbler looking sexy as all hell no drooping and I think I got my cut fu nailed down.
Plans are to be flowering more plants in the next two weeks, stepping more up in to bags, and starting more clones off the new generation. I have an idea who my willies x semango mom is going to be, who my bagseed wonder mom is going to be, and I am totally cutting one or two off of that pretty little indica when the time is right to veg out for my personal fun but I don't want too many of them filling up my room taking forever to veg. I definitely want to preserve that strain though it just looks so damn cool with its funny dark green leaves. Supposedly its grandaddy purple haze according to the kid that sold me the jar I pulled the seed out of but everybody and their grandmother calls their shit grandaddy purp around here when they want to whack you for some retarded amount of money for their smoke. I don't care what it is, it looks cool and it's fun to grow, I'm sure with enough looooooooove it'll show me some in return and we'll have some fun after flower
I'll put up some pics later lost my camera cable so I have to copy off an SD card and I'm busy as fuck all whatever with these girls, working on my relatively new veg setup and doing my other shit to keep teh billz paid while this all takes off
Oh yeah the coco.
I dont want to get caught up in another mess right now monotubs sound cool but growing killer cannabis is my priority right now...and so is saving money because I'm pushing it to the limit right now wallet wise... so actually I'm using that CocoTek brick shit I had, in fact the stuff I just transplanted is in stuff from my last grow that I washed really good and some unused leftover brick shit mixed with unused left over atami bcuzz.
Everything goes in a five gallon bucket I drilled lotsa holes in the bottom of, and I pour about six gallons of RO water and FloraKleen and H2O2 through it to strip out all the salts and nutes and shit. Stir it up real nice and let it drain. Then its another fifteen or so gallons of RO water and H2O2 through it and then we pour a few gallons of my veg blend through it to get it nice and presoaked. And then we put plants in it and now we see what happens. So far so good. So maybe me buying stock in Atami is not in my future. I think I can deal with these bricks and atami 50 50d together and save a buttload of money.
Comments? Love em.
wsmith
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bigger girls need bigger bags
bigger girls need bigger bags
so i've been doing some transplanting, haven't been working the last few days due to some unforeseen bullshit and i've been using the extra time to show my girls some extra love, and drink a lot of extra beer. and do a lot of extra sleeping on my extra special couch in between, to catch up for what i lost running around like a psycho the last few weeks trying to keep my shit together while my garden grows.
unemployment got unexpectedly dropped so now i really gotta focus on this because it will hopefully be saving my a$$ by mid december.
anyhow.
i have lovely root masses on most of the little 6" pots and i've been washing all the expanding brick cocotek stuff I have left from my last run, so far so good with my process on that nobody seems to be unhappy in that media so I may just buy a bunch of bricks and spend a day or two here and there washing substrate. it's really not that bad and it saves a bunch of money although i'm going to be using a lot more RO water and my filter is gonna get a workout...
I moved some stuff around, added a drainhole to the boot pan I'm using as a runoff tray in veg and threw one of my old bins underneath to catch the excess runoff from watering. threw another girl in a bag and washed some coco so i can move some clones up in to bags later tonight and then hopefully have some left over to move some of the little beercup girls in to the newly vacant 6" pots. Hopefully by the time the ones in the bubbler have roots i'll be ready to flower the bagged girls. I also topped all the girls in the bags, I want to hit them a little earlier than the last generation, I'm worried I may have let them get a little big for 2.5 gallon bags and I don't want to have any rootlock problems. In the future I think I'm either topping around 10" instead of 12" or switching to 3.5 gal bags. But I like the 2.5 gal bags because I plan on eventually putting together a drip system sized to accomodate them and I based the size of my flower room on accomodating a certain number of those bags in dutch leach trays eventually... so I'm considering this an experiment to see which ones do better, the ones I topped earlier or the ones I topped at 12" I am already flowering. They do look nice and big in there though and the buds are forming and starting to smell nice and flow'ry...it's very relaxing just to be around I'm loving every minute I spend with these girls....females have always been my downfall at least I found some to spoil that can return the love! ha ha ha ha ha
have some dumbass drug test in a month so I can't smoke any weed but that'll make it all the better when I'm reaping the rewards of this work, barring any unforeseen disaster of course.
so I have this one that is a pretty little indica I think I want to keep back for clones...pray it's a girl for me! I have a spot in a certain state park in mind that I would love to fill up with a bunch of nice slow growin indica next year...plan ahead what what!
bigger girls need bigger bags
so i've been doing some transplanting, haven't been working the last few days due to some unforeseen bullshit and i've been using the extra time to show my girls some extra love, and drink a lot of extra beer. and do a lot of extra sleeping on my extra special couch in between, to catch up for what i lost running around like a psycho the last few weeks trying to keep my shit together while my garden grows.
unemployment got unexpectedly dropped so now i really gotta focus on this because it will hopefully be saving my a$$ by mid december.
anyhow.
i have lovely root masses on most of the little 6" pots and i've been washing all the expanding brick cocotek stuff I have left from my last run, so far so good with my process on that nobody seems to be unhappy in that media so I may just buy a bunch of bricks and spend a day or two here and there washing substrate. it's really not that bad and it saves a bunch of money although i'm going to be using a lot more RO water and my filter is gonna get a workout...
I moved some stuff around, added a drainhole to the boot pan I'm using as a runoff tray in veg and threw one of my old bins underneath to catch the excess runoff from watering. threw another girl in a bag and washed some coco so i can move some clones up in to bags later tonight and then hopefully have some left over to move some of the little beercup girls in to the newly vacant 6" pots. Hopefully by the time the ones in the bubbler have roots i'll be ready to flower the bagged girls. I also topped all the girls in the bags, I want to hit them a little earlier than the last generation, I'm worried I may have let them get a little big for 2.5 gallon bags and I don't want to have any rootlock problems. In the future I think I'm either topping around 10" instead of 12" or switching to 3.5 gal bags. But I like the 2.5 gal bags because I plan on eventually putting together a drip system sized to accomodate them and I based the size of my flower room on accomodating a certain number of those bags in dutch leach trays eventually... so I'm considering this an experiment to see which ones do better, the ones I topped earlier or the ones I topped at 12" I am already flowering. They do look nice and big in there though and the buds are forming and starting to smell nice and flow'ry...it's very relaxing just to be around I'm loving every minute I spend with these girls....females have always been my downfall at least I found some to spoil that can return the love! ha ha ha ha ha
have some dumbass drug test in a month so I can't smoke any weed but that'll make it all the better when I'm reaping the rewards of this work, barring any unforeseen disaster of course.
so I have this one that is a pretty little indica I think I want to keep back for clones...pray it's a girl for me! I have a spot in a certain state park in mind that I would love to fill up with a bunch of nice slow growin indica next year...plan ahead what what!
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wsmith
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war on bugs
war on bugs
Ok so I'm going to fight back against the bastard insect that was probably responsible for the demise of that plant. I noticed also that two small buds had been attacked by some kind of insect on my flowering plants and I found a potato bug that took a chunk out of the corner of a fan leaf in veg. It's getting colder around here now and the nasties are probably attracted to the 1450 watts of electric heat running in my spot. I know I am, it's enough that I haven't had to use my heat yet this fall.
So I looked around on icmag and found some lovely reviews of Vapona pest strips, aka DDVP aka dichlorvos aka in my region HotShot Pest Strips 2. Supposed insect genocide within 48 hours. Hung one in flower and one in veg. That should learn the bastards for eating my hard work.
war on bugs
Ok so I'm going to fight back against the bastard insect that was probably responsible for the demise of that plant. I noticed also that two small buds had been attacked by some kind of insect on my flowering plants and I found a potato bug that took a chunk out of the corner of a fan leaf in veg. It's getting colder around here now and the nasties are probably attracted to the 1450 watts of electric heat running in my spot. I know I am, it's enough that I haven't had to use my heat yet this fall.
So I looked around on icmag and found some lovely reviews of Vapona pest strips, aka DDVP aka dichlorvos aka in my region HotShot Pest Strips 2. Supposed insect genocide within 48 hours. Hung one in flower and one in veg. That should learn the bastards for eating my hard work.
hey bro, i haven't been around much, soory to hear about the dead plant and the bugs nuke those little f**kers
looking good, glad your cloning is working well now
stay safe keep up the good work
looking good, glad your cloning is working well now
stay safe keep up the good work
