Move to Calif to grow medical bud *business idea* is it legit?

[RockyMountainHi]

yo - Clack - One might do better to market that as a Vintage Airstream with fresh air and shore front.




I do sometimes have a nack for sales.

 

[Clackamas Coot]

LOL!

 

[Clackamas Coot]

RockyMountainHi

Another name for Bombay Beach is 'Chancre de Diablo' for good reasons.

CC

 

[boxmunch9]

you can do it brother, you need alot of start up, like 25k. you will most likey have to come up with roughly $12,000 in rent before you harvest anything. it would help you major to have a friend already in the mix to help you troubleshoot. you shouldnt go without a job to start and help you keep afloat and look normal to your neighbor until you harvest. but other than that, I dont see the problem, and you only want to make like 75k a yr

it sounds like socal people have it rough, I couldnt tell you, but i pack my bags, flew to cali, 2 yrs and 9,000ws later im happy

 

[fatboycantpost]

i retired a few months ago and spent the last few days trying to decide if i want to move to california. i'm in phoenix and they frown on our hobby here! can you believe that???

my only reason for moving would be to be able to get a medical card and grow 6 plants without worrying about the POlice kicking in my door. i think my friends would think moving to be able to grow some reefer is stupid but then again i love weed and they just like it. with my old man aches and pains i'm assuming i could get a med card.

i'm thinking of Redding or some place up north. they just opened a compassionate care store up there. i'm looking to rent a small house for around $650 or so a month. one question, if i get permission to grow for personal medical use only, would i have to get my landlords permission too? logic tells me i would have to but i can't find anything on the net about it.

thanks for any input!

 

[darookie2000]

Given your business model and projected expenses to realize your dream, I would suggest that you think about Bombay Beach on the shores of the Salton Sea.

Cheap rentals (because of the shifting water levels), the saltiest water on the face of the earth (literally) and lots of warm weather.

Once you've gotten past the stench from the Salton Sea, you're home free to acquite the economic freedom that you're searching for!

HTH!

CC

EDIT: Here's a link to a photo of Bombay Beach on the shores of the Salton Sea!

LOL.

 

[Vespatian]

Fatboy,
Any carbon based life form with a pulse can get a doc rec in CA. Actual medical need is irrelevant. The doc rec is also the only "approval" you need to grow. Regarding landlord approval, that is determined solely by the rent / lease document you sign - there is no law that addresses that issue.

 

[Pythagllio]

Any carbon based life form? Wow! Now that I think about it, my dogs sure have been acting funny lately...can a veterinarian sign a rec? Does a dog license issued by the city of Oakland count as proof of state residency?

 

[Omerta]

6 plants even 12 plants in an apartment or small indoor space is not gunna make you enough to survive in cali, nothing you can grow in for 650. you will make more money where ever you are currently, cali is no longer the money spot for marijuana, we are flooded, we need to sump pump some of your asses out of here thats how flooded we are

and one very important piece, grow a buncha plants here and the local police arent gunna just let you be on your way theyve been making people "prove" it in court, and yeah you might not spend a minute behind bars but you sure as shit will take a financial hit

 

[Pythagllio]

Funny how Cali is 'flooded' when people want to come here to grow, but when people go to buy at the dispensaries it's complaint after complaint about low quality, high prices, quick cured unflushed stuff, etc, etc, etc.

Sure at least 9 out of 10 people that come here to grow and make a living are going to get chewed up and spit out but the ones that make it will improve the scene for everyone. Well, except for those who like high prices and less competition.

 

[medmaker420]

As people get pickier on their meds the growers will have to up their quality. In the end it will odds are be high quality at a reasonable price unless the fed gets involved and gets into price regulations.

 

[darookie2000]

Fatboy,
Any carbon based life form with a pulse can get a doc rec in CA. Actual medical need is irrelevant.

Not true, and please don't give people this impression. It's this idea that makes the DEA crack down on patients. There may be some doctors that tend to be liberal with recommendation, but it's a disservice to all patients to tell people that medical need has nothing to do with getting a recommendation.

 

[darookie2000]

Funny how Cali is 'flooded' when people want to come here to grow, but when people go to buy at the dispensaries it's complaint after complaint about low quality, high prices, quick cured unflushed stuff, etc, etc, etc.

Sure at least 9 out of 10 people that come here to grow and make a living are going to get chewed up and spit out but the ones that make it will improve the scene for everyone. Well, except for those who like high prices and less competition.

The one with the necessary skill and patience to properly grow and trim buds is probably not going to be dissuaded by a bunch of strangers on the internet. The other 9 flood the market with a bunch of "name" strains that are poorly grown and are only grown with profit in mind. I don't think that the market is necessarily flooded, but the more bad bud in the market, the harder it can be to find the good meds.

 

[FreedomFGHTR]

Not true, and please don't give people this impression.

Except for the fact that it is indeed true. Prop 215 was voted by the voters with this in mind. Infact they were warned in official ballot materials.

Proposition 215 requires absolutely no written documentation of any kind to grow or smoke marijuana.

READ PROPOSITION 215 CAREFULLY * IT IS A CRUEL HOAX​

READ THE FINE PRINT. Proposition 215 legalizes marijuana use for ''any other illness for which marijuana provides relief." This could include stress, headaches, upset stomach, insomnia, a stiff neck . . . or just about anything.
NO WRITTEN PRESCRIPTION REQUIRED
* EVEN CHILDREN COULD SMOKE POT LEGALLY!
Proposition 215 does not require a written prescription. Anyone with the ''oral recommendation or approval by a physician" can grow, possess or smoke marijuana. No medical examination is required.
THERE IS NO AGE RESTRICTION. Even children can be legally permitted to grow, possess and use marijuana . . . without parental consent.

NO FDA APPROVAL * NO CONSUMER PROTECTION​

Some of us California natives remember the 1996 election. They said everything in the book to get people to vote against 215 when infact it only provided more fuel to the legalization fire. It's the fault of the prosecutors and the attorney general for making these statements to begin with and helping frame 215 in a such a good way albeit unintentional.

 

[fatboycantpost]

6 plants even 12 plants in an apartment or small indoor space is not gunna make you enough to survive in cali, nothing you can grow in for 650. you will make more money where ever you are currently, cali is no longer the money spot for marijuana, we are flooded, we need to sump pump some of your asses out of here thats how flooded we are

and one very important piece, grow a buncha plants here and the local police arent gunna just let you be on your way theyve been making people "prove" it in court, and yeah you might not spend a minute behind bars but you sure as shit will take a financial hit

howdy.

i'm not looking to make money. money i have. i'm just looking to grow without the worries. i can grow 6 trees under a 1000 watt that will do me quite nicely.

 

[darookie2000]

Except for the fact that it is indeed true. Prop 215 was voted by the voters with this in mind. Infact they were warned in official ballot materials.






Some of us California natives remember the 1996 election. They said everything in the book to get people to vote against 215 when infact it only provided more fuel to the legalization fire. It's the fault of the prosecutors and the attorney general for making these statements to begin with and helping frame 215 in a such a good way albeit unintentional.

The partisan "No on 215" vote literature is not exactly an impartial source . Remember the Yes on 8 literature saying that all of the sudden teachers were going to be teaching gay marriage in kindergarten, even though it had been legal for months prior without any change in curriculum? I get what you're saying, though. The "any other" clause is obviously very open to interpretation. I don't remember all of the rhetoric around it. It's not quite as simple as just breathing to get the card. I just don't really like the fact that people keep hitting on this point because it leads to things like the DEA investigating doctors, and LEO questioning whether a patient has "legitimately" obtained a rec. People with "hidden" disabilities are often questioned about the legitimacy of their condition when asking for things that will help them that are slightly non-standard and may have the appearance of being personal preference, so I guess this is a sore spot for me. Lots of people who gain significant benefit from MMJ are affected if one of these doctors gets into trouble.

 

[FreedomFGHTR]

The partisan "No on 215" vote literature is not exactly an impartial source .

No but it was part of the official ballot. And the arguments against 215 are very valid in court as they very well could have encouraged people to vote in favor. The best part is who is going to question JAMES P. FOX
President, California District Attorneys Association
in a California courtroom. If he says that his statements weren't true, then he is guilty of perjury, and corruption. Their vehement opposition all of a sudden worked against them.

The words of the drug warriors are coming to bite them in the ass, and now people want forget what THEY said.

Remember the Yes on 8 literature saying that all of the sudden teachers were going to be teaching gay marriage in kindergarten, even though it had been legal for months prior without any change in curriculum?

Yes I remember it well. I have stood by my friends and protested at the Capitol the passage of prop 8. And guess what because those statements were made by the YES side it is illegal now illegal to teach gay marraige in school.

I get what you're saying, though. The "any other" clause is obviously very open to interpretation. I don't remember all of the rhetoric around it. It's not quite as simple as just breathing to get the card.

No I don't think you get what I am saying. Prop 215 was written so anybody that wants to legally smoke weed w/o state persecution can by simply talking to a friendly doctor. My friend was the genius behind that specific part of 215. It wasn't just about getting stoned this was to encourage possible social change, the only way to achieve positive social change is through inclusion of as many people as possible.

I just don't really like the fact that people keep hitting on this point because it leads to things like the DEA investigating doctors,

Except for the fact that the US Supreme Court has protected doctors rights to reccomend medical marijuana under the 1st ammendment. You know the whole free speech thing.

and LEO questioning whether a patient has "legitimately" obtained a rec.

That is why people have the option of VOLUNTARILY registering with the Calfornia State Dept of Health Services. LEO can't question SB 420 cards. And plus if you are doing things in a manner that brings LEO attention it will be the court that accepts the documents not the pigs. Do I need to dig out evidence code about authenticating documents?

People with "hidden" disabilities are often questioned about the legitimacy of their condition when asking for things that will help them that are slightly non-standard and may have the appearance of being personal preference,

I have a psychiatric disorder, which was originally diagnosed by a mmj doc. I blew off the diagnoses actually at the time. Later several other docs have confirmed it. Talk about a hidden disibilty. Can you read my mind? I do not fear being questioned. Infact I enjoy it! Ask away, lets make more people informed. By answering others questions (including the pigs) their fear (organized crime, other drugs, ect.) is removed too.

Lots of people who gain significant benefit from MMJ are affected if one of these doctors gets into trouble.

Except that point is null and void
http://stopthedrugwar.org/chronicle-old/307/conant.shtml

FYI My ex wife's Doc actually got busted a while back. But things have changed since then.

And after the Micheal Jackson death the DEA is going to be nose deep into busting doc's who overly PRESCRIBE medication which is often fatal and commonly abused.

 

[darookie2000]

No but it was part of the official ballot. And the arguments against 215 are very valid in court as they very well could have encouraged people to vote in favor. The best part is who is going to question JAMES P. FOX
President, California District Attorneys Association
in a California courtroom. If he says that his statements weren't true, then he is guilty of perjury, and corruption. Their vehement opposition all of a sudden worked against them.

The words of the drug warriors are coming to bite them in the ass, and now people want forget what THEY said.


Yes I remember it well. I have stood by my friends and protested at the Capitol the passage of prop 8. And guess what because those statements were made by the YES side it is illegal now illegal to teach gay marraige in school.



No I don't think you get what I am saying. Prop 215 was written so anybody that wants to legally smoke weed w/o state persecution can by simply talking to a friendly doctor. My friend was the genius behind that specific part of 215. It wasn't just about getting stoned this was to encourage possible social change, the only way to achieve positive social change is through inclusion of as many people as possible.


Except for the fact that the US Supreme Court has protected doctors rights to reccomend medical marijuana under the 1st ammendment. You know the whole free speech thing.


That is why people have the option of VOLUNTARILY registering with the Calfornia State Dept of Health Services. LEO can't question SB 420 cards. And plus if you are doing things in a manner that brings LEO attention it will be the court that accepts the documents not the pigs. Do I need to dig out evidence code about authenticating documents?


I have a psychiatric disorder, which was originally diagnosed by a mmj doc. I blew off the diagnoses actually at the time. Later several other docs have confirmed it. Talk about a hidden disibilty. Can you read my mind? I do not fear being questioned. Infact I enjoy it! Ask away, lets make more people informed. By answering others questions (including the pigs) their fear (organized crime, other drugs, ect.) is removed too.



Except that point is null and void
http://stopthedrugwar.org/chronicle-old/307/conant.shtml

And after the Micheal Jackson death the DEA is going to be nose deep into busting doc's who overly PRESCRIBE medication which is often fatal and commonly abused.

I have a similar type of disability, I had the original sentence written as "WE" rather than they, but I decided to change it for some reason. I am not objecting to the mmj community agreeing that it's relatively easy to get a MMJ card, but I was cautioning against spreading that fact broadly because to some of the less intelligent people, it seems that a card that is easy to get then it's somehow debatable as to whether a patient is obtaining medication or just satisfying a habit under a technicality.

It's the sweeping generalizations that the general public seems to have the most trouble with, that somehow if a medicine is used commonly but they haven't personally used it, and it doesn't treat something "obvious," then they can never understand how valuable it is to the patient, and will assume that it's a scam by big pharma. Remember all of the talk about "vitamin R" and ritalin being overprescribed and blah blah blah blah blah? Or prozac? There's a stigma attached to both of those names. People tend to assume that if something is overprescribed then everyone who takes it is questionable. That's the kind of stigma I'm trying to avoid.

If it was Dennis' (I'm assuming that's the friend we're talking about?) intention to allow free access to everyone through the recommendation process, then by all means, I'll stop asking people not to talk about how easy a rec is to obtain around the general public. I'm just trying to be a bit cautious in terms of protecting all our rights, you know?

Also, the fact that a recommendation hinges on a good faith examination of the patient, and not just payment, the DEA could very well choose to prosecute/persecute doctors that they perceive as "Rec Factories."

 

[Vespatian]

Yes, 18 y.o. with a pulse = Doc rec.

This is neither news to the DEA nor a danger to prescribing physicians, whose methods and rights have been affirmed and upheld in court.

While the caution and fears of legit MMJ patients is understandable, the CA marijuana rights so many have fought so hard and so long for are moving in only one direction; forward.

 

[geekusa]

Move - Done.
First Harvest - Done.
https://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?t=192649

To those who are wanting to give this a shot, what's stopping you?

From the original post here is what I've learned.

This is back breaking work, and it requires constant vigilance. California is humbling, if you slack someone is losing an hour of sleep to make theirs better.

I'm fortunate to never have to visit another club, or shady dealer in my life. While I'm not producing anywhere near my original ideas or goals, nor do I ever have the plans. Six plants are enough work for someone with a full time job, and a life that never stops.

To those that gave me your support, thank you.

Peace and Love.