CA Dispensaries and Flushing

[hyDROJEDI]

With the obvious boom of dispensaries nationwide, especially in SOCAL, there is a naturally high demand for product. Lately I have been noticing a lot of meds going around that are not properly flushed.

I have seen this problem becoming more frequent and it seems to be abroad, Ive had this happen with top shelf stuff from LA to OC

Even more so than usual - Common sense tells me that its because of the statement above, but im curious if anyone else has noticed this..

 

[bterzz]

I noticed this. Honestly its ridiculous. I wont even go to a dispensary and buy my meds anymore, I would rather grow my own or have somebody else grow my own.

 

[hyDROJEDI]

Its gotta be seasonal or something. i know a lot of these places are just getting anything that they can to keep up with the demand.

I still am able to hunt down the organic stuff, and come across very good and well grown meds, but ive been suprised a few times by great looking,smelling OG, Bubba, Skywalker and etc that just burned black and crackled like a camp fire.

 

[Blue Dot]

They flushed in the past?

 

[hyDROJEDI]

Haha.. Well put. To their credit, I have had my fair share of encounters with incredibly well grown, trimmed and cured meds, but its becoming fewer and more far between.

 

[peacenik]

Yes, I can sure tell because the poorly flushed makes me sneeze like crazy. Some seems like it's been flash-dried, if you manage to keep it for a couple of months, even in a jar, it's so dry that it's becomes like a powder if you use a grinder. There's no life left in it.
But it's also true that some places just get a better supply for whatever reason so I guess you just have to experiment with different places & strains if you can. Alot of these places won't even touch outdoor pot, like it's some ugly step-sister or something. Silly people don't know "good" even when it slaps them upside the head! Some of the dispensary pot, I just call "crack-pot" cuz in 20 min you're packing another bowl. No legs to it. Nice flavor & smell, but I'm looking for more than that if I'm spending $45+ for 1/8.
But I grow my own anyways, it's just nice to sample something different once in awhile.

 

[IGROWMYOWN]

With the obvious boom of dispensaries nationwide, especially in SOCAL, there is a naturally high demand for product. Lately I have been noticing a lot of meds going around that are not properly flushed.

I have seen this problem becoming more frequent and it seems to be abroad, Ive had this happen with top shelf stuff from LA to OC

Even more so than usual - Common sense tells me that its because of the statement above, but im curious if anyone else has noticed this..

by not flushed are you talking the classic sparkler pop pop unflushed meds or just a chem tast non white ash burning bowl... Yeah i hear you on the unflushed meds thing. I've had to pull unflushed plants in soil for security reasons a few years back after hang dry 2-3 month cure they improved and burned semi white ash. some Growers quick to get that $$ alot of dank but also alot of harsh smoke out there.

 

[Teeg420]

i would recommend to just grow your own, hands down its the best!

 

[hyDROJEDI]

its def unflushed crackling.

 

[boxmunch9]

yea i've never boughten clean tasting dope from a club. I feel that about the shit coming from humbolt too. If your not blazing round the clock most people dont notice, but if your blazing 6 times a day, you can pick up the chem flava at first glance

 

[Sativa_Grows]

yea i've never boughten clean tasting dope from a club. I feel that about the shit coming from humbolt too.

From Santa Cruz north. This is where the quality meds are, most everything south doesn't even compare.
I've seen dispensaries in Socal buy unflushed, un-cured, buds that have been picked early then sell them for $50+ and 1/8th, it's appalling.

 

[hyDROJEDI]

On the positive side of things, for the savvy patient, it makes for an interesting hunting experience when you go to the dispensary to get meds. There is A LOT of junk, but it is kind of rewarding when you make a good find. The demand is so high right now, things are just being pushed out as fast as possible, so i think its just a byproduct of the times.

I have had pretty good luck sticking to strains that I see in multiple places because a vendor was making rounds with a good large batch of bubba kush or blue dreams.

 

[Hydro-Soil]

A lot of these places won't even touch outdoor pot, like it's some ugly step-sister or something. Silly people don't know "good" even when it slaps them upside the head!

Outdoor generally plugs my nose up and causes issues with my throat, yes... even the really awesomely grown outdoor that I love. Too sensitive to dust and pollen and stuff, so for me.... outdoor is crap for 'smoking' meds. Awesome for tinctures and rubs and edibles though

Serious decline in quality is also being mixed with an upsurge in new patients and collectives that don't know anything about quality. Disgusting.

 

[Ocean Grown]

Why do people think that bringing in their first and failed grow to a dispensary is a great idea? And the wonderful dispensaries that will buy that failed grow and market it as top shelf meds?

It's gotten really gross out there.

 

[darookie2000]

I'm a new grower, and before I even think about bringing it into a club I'm making damn sure it's cured to the point that it at least doesn't hurt my throat to smoke. It may not be a long cure (I actually have some meds that are in week two in the jar and are coming along nicely), but it will be a cure.

I saw all these uncut leaves in one sets of the display buds of a club recently and it annoyed me a little, having spent like 30-40 hours trimming my first crop before I dried it. I wouldn't want to use bud that wasn't cared for properly and I wouldn't expect other patients to do so either.

 

[Clackamas Coot]

Serious decline in quality is also being mixed with an upsurge in new patients and collectives that don't know anything about quality. Disgusting.

Don't forget to factor in the profit paradigm. So much for the whole 'compassionate' joke.

Pretty easy to be 'compassionate' with $50.00 per 1/8 for bud, eh?

There are those here in Oregon who look south to California and wish and hope that we'll pass laws to set up these so-called 'compassionate centers' - eh! Leave it down south as the expression goes.

CC

 

[smokesalot420]

Don't forget to factor in the profit paradigm. So much for the whole 'compassionate' joke.

Pretty easy to be 'compassionate' with $50.00 per 1/8 for bud, eh?


CC

You hit it on the head there CC! Whether is it uncured or has been pulled a week early, it seems most meds out there are not of the quality it should be. I see clubs selling meds that I would (and do) throw away. I give a small amount of my harvests to people in need and I wouldn't even give away some of the stuff I see clubs selling. It's about money, it starts at the vendor and ends in the club.....

 

[PondeLftHndSide]

I wish this weren't a problem. Safe access rules. But I totally agree that the quality is in the toilet. I ran out of meds a month ago due to mold issues in my last jar, and I was forced to go to the clubs. It was nigh on impossible to find a decent sample of anything here in Sac. I finally found some Blue Dream that was done right, for $60 1/8th. And yeah, I spent it (several times, actually) rather than save $10 on something that tastes like Aisle 2 at Home Depot. Thank God for the $10 hash... and my current harvest!

People need to step up their game on both sides of the fence. Growers need to learn what they're doing, and consumers need to learn the difference between good and shit herb. And the dispensaries need to hold to a higher standard. I see it on ICMag all the time - people throw up 'harvest time' shots of the most emerald green plants you've ever seen. They do a beautiful job of growing the buds, but without much thought of how they will be once cut down.

Anyone can grow a little grass, it's easy - it takes years of trial and error to learn how to produce true connoisseur-grade meds. Not just the growing, processing and curing, but learning how to carefully evaluate and select individual plants for certain effects. I've been growing for 20 years, and I'm still learning how to step up my game with every cycle.

One of the most important discoveries I've made is the LONG FLUSH! I do a 21-day flush cycle, starting with half-strength nutes and Sucanat for a week, followed by straight Sucanat for a week, then plain water for the last week. That one change in my technique increased the quality of my finished product exponentially. Even using FloraNova chem nutes, the flavors and aromas are clean and pure. I run with chefs, sommeliers, master brewers, coffee roasters, people who make a very good living with their palates, and this flush method is well proven, trust me.

It's a symptom of what I call the High Times Effect - too many growers (and consumers) selecting with their eyes. Just because a plant takes a nice picture doesn't mean it's good for your head. Some of the best highs in my collection come from plants that most people would unfortunately pass over for something prettier. Not many people are going to look at a jar of Thai Haze x Sk1 and say "whoa, look at that!". Sadly, most consumers would look at it and say "that's schwag!". Because it doesn't look like a High Times centerfold. But smoke it, and then let's talk... or are you having trouble with talking right now?

Med growers, take note - this is what your plants should look like at chop time. You're not going to get in a High Times centerfold, but when a seasoned head twists up a doob of your product and declares it among the best they've ever had, you won't care.

 

[Omerta]

when everyone in the country thinks its legal here cause they saw it on tv and they can come make quick easy money, thats what you get. a market flooded with sub par weed (compared to what were used to) and a buncha goofs talking acting like its a wal mart transaction. the culture behind the buds is whats suffering in reality

 

[JBlaze]

Have you ever been to Amsterdam? Your joints will go out because that shit still has nutes in it.