New 8KW stealth Coco chip grow!

[Lazyman]

Hey urbangorilla, I did 3 cheese plants in my previous batch, the smell of them overpowered 30 Chem Dawgs and 10 OG by a mile, and was a serious security concern. I chopped them a week early to kill the smell, but agreed, they are GORGEOUS plants and the smoke is very sleepy, my wife uses it for night time meds.

In my opinion it wasn't light or nutes as they were all pretty even, but I believe the variable was water. The stuff that was overwatered grew pretty stunted, the stuff that was allowed to dry a bit did MUCH better. Again, my fault, I shoulda paid more attention at the beginning instead of trying to follow posted watering schedules. IO do know the Chem Dawg likes to be a bushy thing, but it rarely has the stem strength indoors to grow good buds without serious staking/branch wrangling. The largest plants mostly received 2-2.5 weeks veg so that is the rest of the equation I bet.

Give the plants what they NEED, not what a book or site tells ya, that's what I learned.

 

[urbangorilla]

here is another one that friends of mine have used & 7 days from seed they can be changed to 12/12 & its a good yeilding fruity No.
its called grapefruit & thats also a nice strain & it doesnt have as heavy a stink as cheese does! first time i lit a stick up out the back my next door neighbour who is well used to my habits was like "what the fuck is that smell" lol
its agreat set up you got there lazyman

 

[Lazyman]

Thanks again mate, I'm pretty happy with the overall setup, looking forward to more girls and CO2 injection next round.

Yep I've done a couple grapefruits before, nice plants!

I have high hopes for the Trainwreck and Purple AK next round, AK is one of my all time faves (love the two hitter quitters)

 

[Budley Doright]

NIce grow....

 

[urbangorilla]

all good bro, i look forward to trying out chemdog & trainwreck in the green house next time im in the dam

 

[Lazyman]

Ok, my two girls got the chop done in just 36 hours! Man, they are MACHINES. Seriously, they worked night and day, stopping only to eat and sleep, and bam, 36 hours later they were done with all the tables! I still have two Myst of Destructions flowering (finally growing buds) so I'm gonna let them flower for another month or two until they're DONE, they can hang out with the next crop that's about to go in (probably tonight.) Filled up 7 of my 24 drying racks, which in itself is kinda discouraging, worked out like this:

2 trays of Ice
2 trays of ChemDawg
3/4 tray of Sage n Sour (fruitiest smelling thing ever!)
1/4 tray of Jock Horror
1 tray of Jack Herer

+1 tray of smatterings of:
God Bud
Grapefruit Diesel
Mandala #1
Blue dream
Satori (Abby)
Pure Kush X Sour Diesel

So next round I've got 71 purple AK, 61 trainwreck, and 30 jock horrors (loved the colas on these in SOG) Since the 2 MOD's are taking up a tray damn near by themselves I'll be cramming the rest into 7 trays to start with, as it should be! I also got signed up as a caregiver for 3 more patients, so now I can legally grow up to 180 plants and 600 square feet of canopy! I've got 163 total for next round and WAY less than 600 square feet, only taking up 128 square feet of floor space. SHooting for 12 pounds on the next run, with the help of CO2 of course. Stay tuned for the final weight, will be a week or so with the big colas.

 

[Lazyman]

Work work work, scrubbin out trays, reservoirs, gettin it all spick and span for the new girls. Mixed up a new batch of nutes for the MOD's and picked off some dull leaves, they're gonna be nice one of these months!

 

[Greyskull]

working hard DAMN

 

[Lazyman]

Ok, pulled a couple all nighters and:

Finished scrubbing out the 8 trays and two reservoirs
Mixed up new batches of nutes
Cleaned and vacuumed whole floor
Raised lights up and switched all digitals to 50%
Moved all the used smartpots and coco chips out
Moved all the new babies in (14 trips!)
Picked up the whole harvest and knocked it off the stems
Sorted, weighed and measured, all curing in jars now.

Only 3 days of downtime between rounds, not bad if I say so myself.

1120 grams total, about 2.5 pounds. I'm shocked and heartbroken but not discouraged, I know what I did wrong and have rectified most of it. I'll have to put off the Co2 generator setup til after the next round though, will just veg the new girls an extra week to get em bigger. Live and learn, and do better next time! If I don't get 10# out of the next set I'm going back to soil, I might even go back to salt-based ferts and peroxide if I don't see the growth I want. I think I'm gonna get em about a foot tall before I flip em, which had better only take a week or two! Many are already 8-10" high so I should be good.

Here's some pics of the harvest and the new batch already going:
Ice was beautiful, wish I had 100 of these instead of the variety pack I had:


Drying racks all loaded up


Jack Herer, nice and purpled:


All the new tenants are moved in and humming See the two old Myst of Destructions in the back left? Poor girls are gonna be flipped back to veg for a week then reflowered, if I have room to keep them, if not they're just gonna get chucked outside I guess.

 

[Securityfirst]

Well for what its worth Lazyman, I learned an awful lot from your thread. I cant wait to try out the smartpots. And 2.5 pds is better than no pounds in my book. Ill be looking out for your next thread and for your thread on the water cooled Co2 Generator.From what Ive seen other people do in hydro you should be pulling ten no prob next time.

 

[growshower]

great run man no worries, all in the learning, good luck on the up and comin run

 

[Lazyman]

Thanks much buddy, I figured it would be on the small side but this is the smallest harvest I've had in ages, real wake-up call! How've you been?

 

[ddrew]

Well well Lazyman, your certainly keeping yourself busy out there in Sonoma.
Nice set up, sorry to hear about the low yield, hopefully next time will be a bumper crop.

 

[Lazyman]

Thanks Ddrew, I hope so too. I was just doing some reading on how my high night temps might be impacting things, hard to get any specific research on weed in that area. A split ac or chiller is in my future, but of course not until it's cold outside. I wonder if I should do my winter crops with the lights on during the day so I can keep them warm and give them cooler nights for more purpling. Choices choices...

Got my template made for my pot covers today, gonna cut em out of black/white poly so they tuck into the smartpots. Just re-read Dongles grow again and decided to shut off the watering for the next few days at least, let some roots grow and get wild before they get fed. THe Jock Horrors are awesome, mad props to my buddy that cloned em. THe trainwrecks are pretty good clones, the Purple AK's are kinda puny and scraggly.

SHould I keep my second round going in this thread or make a new one?

Thanks all...

 

[ddrew]

SHould I keep my second round going in this thread or make a new one?

Thanks all...

Keep it going in this one, if you start a new one you will have to explain how you do things all over again.

The way I look at temps is that if I think it could get over 80* at anytime lights on or off, then I fire up the AC.

 

[growshower]

keep this one going so i don't have to resubscribe

 

[Lazyman]

Keep it going in this one, if you start a new one you will have to explain how you do things all over again.

The way I look at temps is that if I think it could get over 80* at anytime lights on or off, then I fire up the AC.

Thanks again mate, will do!

Yeah I have a 12K btu ac (my 9K died) but even together they just aren't enough to cool my building on a hot day. Insulating the roof this winter will help, I also have a second intake shutter I could put in to at least try and keep it at ambient temps, it rarely gets above 90* for more than a few hours anyway. I think a bigger ac is the answer...

 

[grow nerd]

Lazyman,

On the yield... it happens to the best of us, sometimes; and like Securityfirst said, 2.5 is far better than zero. Personally, I applaud you for honestly sharing the experience with us (whether yield was high or low) and also identifying the key issues that played a hand here. Much more valuable than "I yielded 15# !!!".

Excellent work in maintaining this thread, and looking forward to seeing more.

Much respect, brother. In my book this grow was a successful one.

 

[Lazyman]

Lazyman,

On the yield... it happens to the best of us, sometimes; and like Securityfirst said, 2.5 is far better than zero. Personally, I applaud you for honestly sharing the experience with us (whether yield was high or low) and also identifying the key issues that played a hand here. Much more valuable than "I yielded 15# !!!".

Excellent work in maintaining this thread, and looking forward to seeing more.

Much respect, brother. In my book this grow was a successful one.

Thanks man, to be honest I considered lying about the yield briefly, but to what end? You guys would have been happy for me I'm sure, but nothing real would have been accomplished, and the newbs reading this thread would have had similar expectations. No, I know the garden can do much better, Lazyman was the problem with this grow.

Buddy brought over 10 more Jock Horror clones last night, they're beautiful and huge, nice 9" long roots on em already! Got em swapped into coco chips and under a 1KW halide to blow em up a bit.

I'm gonna skip the bushmaster on this run, or only use it on the very tallest plants two weeks after the flip. I was thinking I'd like to get most of em around 12" tall when I flip this time, so they finish around 2' tall or so. Shooting for at least 1 oz per plant, but of course, I won't complain if I get 2! Just trying to make sure I fill all my trays, I don't care if it's with lots of small ones or fewer bushy ones, 8 full trays is key!

Microherd is alive and well, big mess of brown foam on the floor next to my res yesterday, woot! The mycorrhizae and hygrozyme/inoculaid really seem to dig the molasses too, gobbling it up and the ph jumped from 5.8 to 6.5 overnight, just pumping inside the res. Gonna turn the water on and flood em again in a day or two, I need bigger roots!

 

[Lazyman]

Oh yeah, I also bought some of the FF bone meal (in a box, has myco in it too) and put about 8 ounces of it into a couple old waterpump filterbags (god those things suck, they dont flow for shit) and tied em off and dropped one in each res. FIgured that and the molasses might be a good natural way to add cal and mag. I'll let you know if I have to add any regular cal mag to the soup this run.

I also think I'll try doing reservoir changes, at least a few times to keep things fresher. Can't hurt really, I would leave 10 gallons of the old stuff just to keep the microherd happy.