Fruit!!!!

[AndreNicky]

I really can't believe you guys think that drinking water will "poison my body with inferior plastic laden water" and that you're body does not need protein but just fruit.. You WILL eventually die with only a full diet of just fruit. Although.. you smoke marijuana. But to each their own. You probably felt great because you had been eating lots of foods high in fat, mostly shitty processed foods..

Wow dude, get a clue. Plastic leaches so when you have water in a plastic bottle it will slowly leach plastic into your water. Ontop of this water from the store is nothing compared to water from fruit, fruit water is the purest water in the world.

I think its funny your so brainwashed that you think I'm gonna die from only eating fruit, why would i die?? Please give me one reason, you can't lol. I would be interested in knowing what you eat so healthy, I'm guessing some sort of combination of cooked food, meat and other acidic bullshit. I was all raw vegan before i switched to primarily fruit and i was very healthy just fyi


Just for anyone who is interested i've added about a half of pound to pound of sprouts a day to my diet. Sprouts are the most protein/mineral rich food in the whole world and they taste fucking fantastic.

 

[Kizzattack]

Pasteurization is bullshit, they don't do it too keep you from getting sick, they do it too keep you sick.

What do you mean? Raw fruit and vegetables may be infected with pathogens that can cause illness. From a business point of view, it makes complete sense. If a company didn't pasteurize their juice and smoothies, and were subsequently blamed for an outbreak of E. coli or something, they'd be ruined. It's for our own health and it's security for their business.

 

[ddrew]

they don't do it too keep you from getting sick, they do it too keep you sick. No offense Ddrew but your assumptions and opinions really do nothing for anyone, all it does is hurt people.

None taken, and I hope you won't take any when I ask you who is making assumptions now?

They pasteurize things to make you sick????


I'm all for fruit here people, but not at the expense of everything else.
No one has to take anyone's "opinion", do a little research on pasteurization, and tell me what you come up with.
This is what I get, no 400 degree nonsense, no "added pathogens" to "keep people sick"
Maybe you could paste something to support your "assumption"



Pasteurization: Definition and Methods
Pasteurization: A process named after scientist Louis Pasteur which uses the application of heat to destroy human pathogens in foods. For the dairy industry, the terms "pasteurization", "pasteurized" and similar terms shall mean the process of heating every particle of milk or milk product, in properly designed and operated equipment, to one (1) of the temperatures given in the following chart and held continuously at or above that temperature for at least the corresponding specified time:
[FONT=VERDANA,ARIAL,HELVETICA]Temperature[/FONT][FONT=VERDANA,ARIAL,HELVETICA]Time[/FONT][FONT=VERDANA,ARIAL,HELVETICA]Pasteurization Type[/FONT][FONT=VERDANA,ARIAL,HELVETICA]63ºC (145ºF)*[/FONT][FONT=VERDANA,ARIAL,HELVETICA]30 minutes[/FONT][FONT=VERDANA,ARIAL,HELVETICA]Vat Pasteurization[/FONT][FONT=VERDANA,ARIAL,HELVETICA]72ºC (161ºF)* [/FONT][FONT=VERDANA,ARIAL,HELVETICA]15 seconds[/FONT][FONT=VERDANA,ARIAL,HELVETICA]High temperature short time Pasteurization (HTST)[/FONT][FONT=VERDANA,ARIAL,HELVETICA]89ºC (191ºF) [/FONT][FONT=VERDANA,ARIAL,HELVETICA]1.0 second[/FONT][FONT=VERDANA,ARIAL,HELVETICA]Higher-Heat Shorter Time (HHST)[/FONT][FONT=VERDANA,ARIAL,HELVETICA]90ºC (194ºF)[/FONT][FONT=VERDANA,ARIAL,HELVETICA]0.5 seconds[/FONT][FONT=VERDANA,ARIAL,HELVETICA]Higher-Heat Shorter Time (HHST)[/FONT][FONT=VERDANA,ARIAL,HELVETICA]94ºC (201ºF) [/FONT][FONT=VERDANA,ARIAL,HELVETICA]0.1 seconds[/FONT][FONT=VERDANA,ARIAL,HELVETICA]Higher-Heat Shorter Time (HHST)[/FONT][FONT=VERDANA,ARIAL,HELVETICA]96ºC (204ºF)[/FONT][FONT=VERDANA,ARIAL,HELVETICA]0.05 seconds[/FONT][FONT=VERDANA,ARIAL,HELVETICA]Higher-Heat Shorter Time (HHST)[/FONT][FONT=VERDANA,ARIAL,HELVETICA]100ºC (212ºF)[/FONT][FONT=VERDANA,ARIAL,HELVETICA]0.01 seconds[/FONT][FONT=VERDANA,ARIAL,HELVETICA]Higher-Heat Shorter Time (HHST)[/FONT][FONT=VERDANA,ARIAL,HELVETICA]138ºC (280ºF)[/FONT][FONT=VERDANA,ARIAL,HELVETICA]2.0 seconds[/FONT][FONT=VERDANA,ARIAL,HELVETICA]Ultra Pasteurization (UP)[/FONT]

*If the fat content of the milk product is ten percent (10%) or more, or if it contains added sweeteners, or if it is concentrated (condensed), the specified temperature shall be increased by 3ºC (5ºF). Provided that, eggnog shall be heated to at least the following temperature and time specifications:
[FONT=VERDANA,ARIAL,HELVETICA]Temperature[/FONT][FONT=VERDANA,ARIAL,HELVETICA]Time[/FONT][FONT=VERDANA,ARIAL,HELVETICA]Pasteurization Type[/FONT][FONT=VERDANA,ARIAL,HELVETICA]69ºC (155ºF)[/FONT][FONT=VERDANA,ARIAL,HELVETICA]30 minutes [/FONT][FONT=VERDANA,ARIAL,HELVETICA]Vat Pasteurization [/FONT][FONT=VERDANA,ARIAL,HELVETICA]80ºC (175ºF) [/FONT][FONT=VERDANA,ARIAL,HELVETICA]25 seconds [/FONT][FONT=VERDANA,ARIAL,HELVETICA]High temperature short time Pasteurization (HTST) [/FONT][FONT=VERDANA,ARIAL,HELVETICA]83ºC (180ºF) [/FONT][FONT=VERDANA,ARIAL,HELVETICA]15 seconds [/FONT][FONT=VERDANA,ARIAL,HELVETICA]High temperature short time Pasteurization (HTST) [/FONT]

The original method of pasteurization was vat pasteurization, which heat milk or other liquid ingredients in a large tank for a at least 30 minutes. It is now used primarily in the dairy industry for preparing milk for making starter cultures in the processing of cheese, yogurt, buttermilk and for pasteurizing some ice cream mixes.
The most common method of pasteurization in the United States today is High Temperature Short Time (HTST) pasteurization, which uses metal plates and hot water to raise milk temperatures to at least 161° F for not less than 15 seconds, followed by rapid cooling. Higher Heat Shorter Time (HHST) is a process similar to HTST pasteurization, but it uses slightly different equipment and higher temperatures for a shorter time. For a product to be considered Ultra Pasteurized (UP), it must be heated to not less than 280° for two seconds. UP pasteurization results in a product with longer shelf life but still requiring refrigeration.
Another method, aseptic processing, which is also known as Ultra High Temperature (UHT), involves heating the milk using commercially sterile equipment and filling it under aseptic conditions into hermetically sealed packaging. The product is termed "shelf stable" and does not need refrigeration until opened. All aseptic operations are required to file their processes with the Food and Drug Administration's (FDA) "Process Authority." There is no set time or temperature for aseptic processing; the Process Authority establishes and validates the proper time and temperature based on the equipment used and the products being processed.

 

[ddrew]

What do you mean? Raw fruit and vegetables may be infected with pathogens that can cause illness. From a business point of view, it makes complete sense. If a company didn't pasteurize their juice and smoothies, and were subsequently blamed for an outbreak of E. coli or something, they'd be ruined. It's for our own health and it's security for their business.

Look, we don't need you bringing no techmology into this

 

[AndreNicky]

What do you mean? Raw fruit and vegetables may be infected with pathogens that can cause illness. From a business point of view, it makes complete sense. If a company didn't pasteurize their juice and smoothies, and were subsequently blamed for an outbreak of E. coli or something, they'd be ruined. It's for our own health and it's security for their business.

lol, governments got you scared huh? Where are the raw companies being subsequently blamed for e coli outbreaks? You know they sell raw fruits, vegetables, nuts, seeds and even some juices in the stores? Yet these don't cause massive outbreaks. The basis for pasteurization is completely retarded, there are bacteria microbes everywhere and they make up a large portion of your body. The fact you have to protect yourself from them is ridiculous, you don't by the way if you eat healthy.

They got people thinking there drinking healthy drinks with there 100% fruit juice, hahahahaha. Such a joke, that shits the same thing as kool-aid

 

[AndreNicky]

They pasteurize things to make you sick????

All enzymatic activity is lost as well as severe nutrient degradation. Yes they do it to make you sick but they have sheeple like you beileving its all for the greater good of the people

 

[ddrew]

All enzymatic activity is lost as well as severe nutrient degradation. Yes they do it to make you sick but they have sheeple like you beileving its all for the greater good of the people

Ok, I guess I should have asked this to began with.
Why you think they pasteurize stuff?
Is it really a big conspiracy to make and keep people sick?

 

[AndreNicky]

http://www.alive.com/371a1a2.php?subject_bread_cramb=455 this is mainly about milk but applies to fruit juice aswell

 

[AndreNicky]

Is it really a big conspiracy to make and keep people sick?

Yes it is

 

[ddrew]

My feelings on milk, we have no need for cow milk as a regular part of our adult diet, and there are many reasons for that besides pasteurization.
So lets skip milk.

How about juice? why spend the extra time and money to pasteurize it if it gives no benefit to the manufacturer or consumer?

 

[ddrew]

Yes it

Andre come on, that's ridiculous, if it is, then whose behind it?
How do they get new people to go along with it?
Worldwide organized conspiracy to pasteurize milk/juice to make people sick? Why? And why would all the leaders of the world go along with it?
And how could it be kept a secret all these years?
With all the wars everyone still kept the big "pasteurization" secret?
Saddam Hussein never said, "if you invade my country and try to kill me, I'm telling the world about pasteurization"
And if someone does threaten to tell, does the pasteurization hit squad roll out in their black vans and kill them?

 

[AndreNicky]

Andre come on, that's ridiculous, if it is, then whose behind it?
How do they get new people to go along with it?
Worldwide organized conspiracy to pasteurize milk/juice to make people sick? Why? And why would all the leaders of the world go along with it?
And how could it be kept a secret all these years?
With all the wars everyone still kept the big "pasteurization" secret?
Saddam Hussein never said, "if you invade my country and try to kill me, I'm telling the world about pasteurization"
And if someone does threaten to tell, does the pasteurization hit squad roll out in their black vans and kill them?

Why do they poison people with un needed pills and medication?
Why do we have a healthcare system thats based on barbaric practices?
Why is our water fluoridated?
Why does the government massively fund Gmo corn and soy plantations?
Why do they fear monger us with threat of a non existent sickness just to trick people into getting vaccines??
Why is the World health organization putting codex alimentarius into effect?
Why is Marijuana illegal?

I don't know why, wish i did

 

[Kizzattack]

lol, governments got you scared huh? Where are the raw companies being subsequently blamed for e coli outbreaks? You know they sell raw fruits, vegetables, nuts, seeds and even some juices in the stores? Yet these don't cause massive outbreaks. The basis for pasteurization is completely retarded, there are bacteria microbes everywhere and they make up a large portion of your body. The fact you have to protect yourself from them is ridiculous, you don't by the way if you eat healthy.

They got people thinking there drinking healthy drinks with there 100% fruit juice, hahahahaha. Such a joke, that shits the same thing as kool-aid

It's a precaution. There aren't companies being blamed for E. Coli outbreaks because they all use pasteurization. It's not a conspiracy. It's common sense.

 

[ddrew]

Why do they poison people with un needed pills and medication?
Why do we have a healthcare system thats based on barbaric practices?
Why is our water fluoridated?
Why does the government massively fund Gmo corn and soy plantations?
Why do they fear monger us with threat of a non existent sickness just to trick people into getting vaccines??
Why is the World health organization putting codex alimentarius into effect?
Why is Marijuana illegal?

I don't know why, wish i did

Money is the answer to a lot of those questions.
All I'm saying is that there is not an organized, worldwide conspiracy to poison people through pasteurization.

 

[AndreNicky]

It's a precaution. There aren't companies being blamed for E. Coli outbreaks because they all use pasteurization. It's not a conspiracy. It's common sense.

They all use pasteurization? They sell unpasteurized orange juice and grapefruit juice at almost every single store (atleast where i live). I can also go to the farmers market and get raw cheese, milk, juice, nuts etc. None of these farmers or booths are being blamed for e coli outbreaks. I wonder why?

 

[AndreNicky]

Money is the answer to a lot of those questions.
All I'm saying is that there is not an organized, worldwide conspiracy to poison people through pasteurization.

They are not trying to poison people thru just pasteurization, there using a mixture of false nutrition science, Deadly chemicals and lots and lots of toxic processed foods. They got people like you believing you need shit like Whey protein and the other dude seriously thought i was gonna die cus i only eat fruit . More then half of america is obese and 50% of people over 50 have cancer whether they know it or not, looks like there succeeding.

By the way i would agree with you its about money because that does seem to be what its about but why go thru all that trouble when you can just print acouple bill (it is just paper afterall). My guess is its something even more sinister

 

[ddrew]

By the way i would agree with you its about money because that does seem to be what its about but why go thru all that trouble when you can just print acouple bill (it is just paper afterall). My guess is its something even more sinister

Andre your kidding about the printing more money thing right?
You have to know it's not as simple as that.

Pears, I really like those, I think I'm going to get some today.
And Bananas, even my dog likes bananas.

And just for you Andre, I'm having one of these, the Culvers Butter Burger Deluxe

 

[AndreNicky]

O man that looks good, i do miss a good ole greasy chesseburger. The thing about that stuff tho its good for about the first 3 bites then its all regret, especially the next day when your shitting your brains out hehe. Fruit taste good, makes me feel good and keeps my body running great. Couldn't really ask for me to be honest

 

[Stacks]

They got people like you believing you need shit like Whey protein and the other dude seriously thought i was gonna die cus i only eat fruit .

You're obviously not too informed on what you're doing. With a pure fruit diet you get no fat or protein. You don't need those... if you want to whither up and die lookin like Ghandi.

 

[Stacks]

Ok didn't read you eat up to a POUND of sprouts a day.. that must be a fuckin job.
Not sure how much protein is in that but probably not as much as you could b getting and technically not a fruit... lol

Also about poisoning your body.. we a have an amazing immune system for a reason.
You're pushing society away and building a fucking safety bubble around yourself with all this shit. I'm sure you watched the documentary "The Beautiful Truth" and came in your pants deciding to change your life.

Well done with being different but seriously you sound like a paranoid schizophrenic with some of this stuff. Not all..