MickTheBrag
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anything "organic" man. 
peace.
peace.
What Are The Best Nutes?
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medicine_man_bc
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all these nugs were grown in 25% organic solutions. this is medicine, the bigger the bud, the more available resin= more medicine. an has a great 100% organic recipe which takes the guessing out of growing. one thing you should all realise about "organic growing", is that aside from better taste, the only real purpose and benefit is enviromental. chems arent the best for our earth, from creation to run off. dont be fooled into thinking it is more potent or medicinal. oh, a bit healthier on the lungs, but if thats your concern, get a vaporizer. even pureblend aint 100% percent "organic". i dont even think they are omri listed
K Double O
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For Veg FF GB is great.. However in flower I use guano... Nothing beats the power of Bat SHit....
medicine_man_bc
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please send me reference material for the "raising of thc" mick, it would be much appreciated
medicine_man_bc
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fox farm was banned by the canadian government by ag canada 5 years ago becuase of the amount of radioactivity it had. canada has much stricter laws for food and plant food then the states. even organic nutes have a certain level of radioactivity, but definitly the lowest compared to chems.
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OK OK The Results are in
OK OK The Results are in
In this corner we have a 1/4 pound tree grown using a simple grow bloom and bloom boost formula
Here we have a 1/4 pound tree grow using alot more money
OK OK The Results are in
In this corner we have a 1/4 pound tree grown using a simple grow bloom and bloom boost formula
oh what the heck this plant same as above plant was harvested day 64 yield dry was 107 grams
Here we have a 1/4 pound tree grow using alot more money
my 1/4 pound medical kush trees
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ureapwhatusow
ionic is most excellent and simple
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i think this one dude uses hobos and drifters for nutes
-~Wind Walker~-
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Nutes
Nutes
One thing I would like to share with the Newbies is that the dry or powdered nutes I bought are a pain in the ass to mix with water.
I bought GH Maxi Bloom. It works great but as I mentioned above !!!PAIN IN THE ASS TO MIX!!!
I had a small 5 Gallon DWC a while ago and when I would change out the nutes, flush, clean, etc. It would take forever to mix it up.
I got Dyna Grow (liquid nute) as a sample with some equipment I bought and all I have to do is shake it a little bit and it is mixed.
Going forward I will only by liquid nutes. Saves so much time and energy. I am going to try GH's Floranova line next.
Remember this newbies: buy liquid nutes they maybe more expensive compared to dry or powdered BUT IT IS WORTH THE MONEY!
-~WW~-
Nutes
One thing I would like to share with the Newbies is that the dry or powdered nutes I bought are a pain in the ass to mix with water.
I bought GH Maxi Bloom. It works great but as I mentioned above !!!PAIN IN THE ASS TO MIX!!!
I had a small 5 Gallon DWC a while ago and when I would change out the nutes, flush, clean, etc. It would take forever to mix it up.
I got Dyna Grow (liquid nute) as a sample with some equipment I bought and all I have to do is shake it a little bit and it is mixed.
Going forward I will only by liquid nutes. Saves so much time and energy. I am going to try GH's Floranova line next.
Remember this newbies: buy liquid nutes they maybe more expensive compared to dry or powdered BUT IT IS WORTH THE MONEY!
-~WW~-
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dongle69
What is the hard part about mixing dry nutrients?
I don't have any problems mixing MaxiBloom and I'm a pretty small woman.
Sure beats shaking a bottle of FloraNova.
I don't have any problems mixing MaxiBloom and I'm a pretty small woman.
Sure beats shaking a bottle of FloraNova.
Solidopc
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I use a funny bunch of soil nutes. But it took me long enough to settle on them so for me, they work very well. I go with biobizz grow and algamic, biocanna flores, and mollasses. I might throw some headmasta in there too, but i also use that on coco, so it's not soil specific. I find the biobizz bloom doesn't have the ommph of the biocanna flores. But i much prefer the biobizz grow to the biocanna vega. You can use the bio grow all the way through the flowering cycle, and it's a great plant tonic, keeping the plant green and healthy all the way through. You are supposed to stop the vega week 2 i think, and then start with flores. My way, i can use both together, and get much better results i find.
right on threads startn to get back on track
A member just gifted me with 5 blueberry a hindu skunk and a chemdawg 91 clone, i'm concerned im burning the plants , just transplanted the clones into 100 % ocean FF blend.
No nutes for the first 2 weeks and just let them feed off the soil, from their i'm looking at a cheap / Keep it simple alternative to nutes, any suggestions? Flora nova maybe?
No nutes for the first 2 weeks and just let them feed off the soil, from their i'm looking at a cheap / Keep it simple alternative to nutes, any suggestions? Flora nova maybe?
I love AN haters. You guys make me laugh.
People always say how expensive AN is, i don't see how unless your grow store is ripping you off. I went through HTG's website and used their prices.
AN- Bloom $32/gal
Grow $32/gal
Micro $37/gal
GH Flora Series- Bloom $31/gal
Grow $31/gal
Micro $37/gal
With GH, they say to use 5ml grow, 10ml micro and 15ml Bloom. Thats about 24.4 cents per gallon of nute solution.
With AN, they say to use about 5.5ml/gallon of the M, B, and G. That comes to about 13.7 cents per gallon of solution.
Looked to me like the AN is cheaper lol.
Ignorance is bliss.
People always say how expensive AN is, i don't see how unless your grow store is ripping you off. I went through HTG's website and used their prices.
AN- Bloom $32/gal
Grow $32/gal
Micro $37/gal
GH Flora Series- Bloom $31/gal
Grow $31/gal
Micro $37/gal
With GH, they say to use 5ml grow, 10ml micro and 15ml Bloom. Thats about 24.4 cents per gallon of nute solution.
With AN, they say to use about 5.5ml/gallon of the M, B, and G. That comes to about 13.7 cents per gallon of solution.
Looked to me like the AN is cheaper lol.
Ignorance is bliss.
Unless you're using GH to grow cannabis. No need for the 'Grow' in most cases.
FloraNova Bloom is $30 a quart when ya get ripped off. Only 8ml/gal though. That's hella cheap and no need for any additives to get a great grow.
beer batter
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i havent used biocanna yet, i mix earth juice with biobizz to get what i call bio-juice. found biobizz grow to be superior grow nute after going threw fox farm age old(istill use that everyday outdoors just not in the growroom) -i like the response and used alg-a-mic for a while also topmax but this time just make a kelp meal tea after the bottle of alg-a-mic i had went rancid and i couldnt afford to order it but had kelpmeal sitting around. i now use down to earth soluble root stimulator a tbs per gallon once a week for humic acid and 10ml per gallon of roots organics ancient amber with my bud recipie and 5ml per gallon with my veg recipie. i mix vermicrop ammendment into the top of my pots befor budding. i used to put primal harvest guano on top of the pots but i began useing earth juice bloom along with both biobizz grow and bloom and then finally fazing out the grow and then the earht jucie finishing with only bio bizz. this is to get most of the guano used up like in a top dressing aplication but its more of a fast acting and i think better effective as a liquid then just a fine sifted guano that penitrate even more then a crude P-guano. earth juice is compleatly compatable with biobizz -ive used earthjucie grow to inject more nitrogen as bio0grow has a huge amount more K then N, it has no or very little P so i mix it with biobloom for vegg -it has kelp as a second ingredient so i think im good, i wish i had alg-a-mic but ill see whats going to heppen with the kelp meal i mixed in from the tea befor i added vermicrop amendment.
my room has been buding since jult 17th and a few days ago i made up a bucket of water and airated it overnight to use and instead of makeing a strong nutrient solution i desided to back off andtoss in someblack gold soil i got a little bit of to make my clones and seedling happy, mixed with alfalfa meal cuz i cant find eny kelpmeal local -i got the idea thinking about compost tea and the 2 main ingredients, compost and worm castings or sometimes worm castings and kelp meal. its ghetto i know, or maby like macgyiver but i added a teaspoon of sugar with it and airated overnight instead of useing 2tbs per gallon bio-juice plus 10ml AA every day -i was useing too much then gave them a day to dry out and had leafs getts weak and falling off, so now im back to dayly watering just a little less and with more caution AA=ancient amber from roots organics -im useing that like i did top max the last bumper crop i had, sept i used top max at like 15ml per gallon for a while then steped it down ive used as much as 2tbs per gallon in the first application cause thats what it had on the bottle and my plants liked it, even as a foliar spray AA is worth it -i find it a little cheeper at horticulturesource.com. -i gotta make some calls about that stuff, i used e.b.stone brand for ages then i was cut off. i liked the 1-0-1 numbers cause their low and i see it as more mirconutrients then factors in my npk numbers. another thing i use whenever i am mixing ne wdirt is dr earth starter fertilizer with all the good things its got in it, i got a small bag of black gold and had the alfalfe meal from a week or soo ago when i was makeing tea. i strain about a cup per gallon thre cheese cloth then add it to my fertilizer solution from time to time -alfalfa has for a growth stimulator and vitamins i think comes threw in the tea. my rootjuice also from bio bizz went rancid afer the first application this round and i went to alfalfa adding a tsp to a water bottle and puting a few holes with a tooth pick i quarted the tea onto rapid rooters and sprouted seeds, then mixed a bit of downt to earth soluble root stimulator the same way with great responce -its void of nutrients (40% humic acid and mycho)
i can also say with experience that age old organics is compatable with bio bizz, cause ive used bio bizz to vegg my clones from feb to may 10th transitioning to age old thats better suited to the youg mixer and raindrip irrigation i use -plus iva partner with over 4 years of success with it, ive had nuthing but good results so its the staple of my outdoor fertilizer program. if like to think age old bloom is compatable but i can only do my own reaserch and development to find out, ive only vegged soo far useing biobizz grow and bloom with age old grow phazing in -age old is soo much cheeper per galon or 2.5 gallon keeping in mind i use alot more nutirent irrigating the oudoor plants then 6+gal pots i use in the grow room, bakc when i had 5 gallons and they where packed with roots id water/feed everyday and it was bone dry just 24 hours or less after soaking till run off. -id go threw a gallon of solution per each pot full of roots, thats when i have a good root-development. i notice some palnts jsut dont have proper root-set for whatever resons.
i try the best i can be ammending dr earth starter fertilizer and kelp meal, i have to look harder for kelp meal and maby call e.b.stone find out if i can get their product or not. dr earth starter has soo much in it to provide a good start -the mycho and bacterea help the plant respond very well to strong biobizz/earth juice solutions -strong as in earth juice rating on their bottles -eatra strong is 3tbs per gal strong is 2tbs normal is 1tbs and medium is 1/2 tbs. i find even after amending with dr earth and kelp meal, alfalfa and maby aver high nirtogen guano biobizz grow is the exilent component -dr earth starter fert is 2-4-2, ebstone kelp is 1-0-1 and biobizz grow is 2.2-.5-6.6 -thats why i figured a cup of high n guano per 5 bag mix is ok, im veging after all. i have mixed dr earth starter with reg soil but stronger the normal as a top tressing befor budding also with great results, probly the best thing i could do is mix dr eath starter with vermicrop organics ontop of the pots befor buding. i have used compsot from ace harfdwear and vermicrop and organics alive and i found the organics alive the best of all mixed with 5cf of half fox farm OF and half blakc gold or happy frog whatever they have, one time i used all fox farm soil -light warrior, OF, and their planting mix plus compost and ammendment. i allways use amendment, maby not compost every time like i should but on the box of dr earth it says its a compost activator -says its god probiotic -7 champion strains of benefical bacterea and mycho to boot.
i have a 3x3 hydro hut mini i vegg in, this resent crop i used 4 6gal or larger pots and overgrew the cag while my last crop finished. now that im tied down and have vegged in the 6x6 flower space untill the inner nodes veged up and fiiled the space between the tied over tops, all 4 plants are 3ft round each makieng the canopy 6ft wide by 6ft under my 600w lamp. im maxed out and at my limitations everywear i turn but had a few accidents- im not gunna blame the fact their over grown cuz they where avoidable i just didnt forsee any huge ass brnahces geting torn off, but shit happends and i waited a few day for them to recover befor force flowering them only to have the second huge branch snape. i have tied the plants int othe open spcaes or puched them together like tetris or a gigantic jigsaw puzle but i swear by this dr earth/biobizz deal ill have to look into age old bloom to see if it promotes any better buds then earth juice -even age old kelp is cheep @ the same price per gallon then a quart of alg-a-mic its not the same though its all black and dull smelling (ya i smell my nutrient, funny but it lets my know if its changed at all or gone rancid besides just looking atit -not healthy green looking and fresh smelling like the ocean, biogrow smells like sweet coffie beans and i live the fact its only enriched molasses -bothe biogrow and bloom are inspiering cause they do soo much for my plants yet have only 1 or 2 simple ingredients not a whole list.
ive done probly 4 years of reasercha nd development with dif ferts but stoped at bio bizz maby a year or less ago and stand behind the stuff -theas are the bigest vie had my plants yet, or i had some in march-april harvested late april that yealded 8 1/4 ounces GDP from 4 plants im going off some notes and revolving concept to get theas and ahve them going in a rythmic cycle overgrow 4 in the hut then tied down and vegged to over grow the flower space or when i feel is apropriet to flower GDP wich doesnt reach hardly but has a fast maturation and still is best taken 70-80 days i beleave.
-i hadent used earth jucie grow for a long time, this crom is mostly all bio bizz/dr earth i just started 15ml earth juice per gallon july 15 soo now ill probly go down to 5 ml with 10ml biogrow and 10ml AA per gallon and 1/2 tsp soluble root enhancer by down to earth per gallon -found a 5lb bag on horticutresource.com for 80-90bucks and im just useing the directions from the bottles i was getting of it locally earlier in the year -the 5lb bag says to use 1/2tsp per gallon and the bottles said ot use 2tbs per gallon in the spring summer and fall. im trying to understand wich is mroe benefital, surely its easier and cost efficiant useing a few tbs per gallon once a month.. or twice a month with a tbs per gallon, i cant quite ge tdown how much i used in the cycle befor last that im trying to replicate
beer batter
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biobizz is molasses so i stoped useing brrer rabit -i had no idea how much K or mirconutrient si was adding w/that anyway, biogrow has only 1 ingredient, bio bloom also has kelp wich is why im sorta compfortable not useing alg-a-mic for now with the added kelp meal/tea i made up. to be honest i had the best clones foliar spraying w/alg-a-mic and soaking oasis cubes with a fe wdrop of root jucie and alg-a-mic in a squart bottle, oasis cubes are a staple in my garder ive used for years and i hate rapid rooters. i had the happiest clones with thoes 3 products and rootech clone gel 100% success and maby 1 yellow leaf -i just wish i had the denaroes to keep that up even when some of the stuff goes bad -maby i had a drop of sweat get in their i didnt see, i just know their both $30 a liter and i get alot of other supplies, growing outdoors also gives me another priority.
{I love AN haters.}
no1 never said they hated AN
the original question was
what are the best nutes
you'll get 100 differant answers there is no difinitive best fert real question is how much money do you wish to spend.
do you want organic
organic based
chem
newbs read in the growers diaries read what the sucessful growers use and go from there. of all the ferts i've used, i've chosen Pure Blend Pro series they do just fine for me
