2000w room, which system?

[Dnutz]

Hey all, Im looking to run a room the size of 8'x15' with 2000w's of light, somewhere to the tune of 10 plants total in a hydro system, I was thinking about doing individual DWC buckets but am thinking that will be a pain as far as maintenance... Im looking for opinions and options for the size of the room. Also I would like to know what size fan I would need to vent the room of the pleasant odors!

thanks!!!

 

[Gilles&Cheryl]

I think I would use dwc buckets linked together with a control bucket. I would hang the lights vertically with no reflectors and put 4 plants around each light. That would keep your plant numbers down and yield great with a long enough veg. period.

 

[Oliver Pantsoff]

4 x 8 table drain to waste. Get a good SOG strain, and you should be rewarded with 2-3+ of some nice medicine><

OP

 

[Dnutz]

whats the best way to do the control bucket?? im not too familiar with that sort of thing.. and with the light thing, i planned on pulling air through a carbon scrubber and over the two lights and out the window. its the most efficient way for me with the situation. i do know that the control bucket holds all the nutrient solution, but what i dont understand is how it gets distributed to each bucket in exact incriments and even at the same time??

 

[Tokin_Jo]

24 SITE C.A.P or Greentrees Ebb n grow bucket system. 3 zips each is not unreasonable.

 

[guambomb813]

Yeah I'd have to agree with tokin jo, I just finished building my whole ebb n flow system including the controller. If you are mechanically/electronically inclined you should be able to follow ogreseekers controller build pretty easily. I followed it step by step with no issues except he only showed the controller, I had to kinda figure out myself how to set up all my buckets, rez, etc, but all in all I am really glad I did it because it really taught me alot on how this system works, I am just starting my first cycle with it too. good luck to ya bro!

 

[reverev313]

i have a 11x11 size room and use a 6in to exhaust the heat from the lights( 2 1000s) and a 8in to exhaust the heat from the room a 4in for cool air inlet perfect temp at 78 to 84 degrees all day

 

[mojojojo]

im a fan of gh waterfarms on my 2 2k rooms
have used em for bout 9 yrs im doing well.
i have an 8 inch outake fan with carbon filter.

 

[JustanotherDave]

A Multi-flow flood&drain type deal is what I'd do. You don't even need a pricey controller bucket. Just have a spare bucket tied in with a large drain...the pump on a $20 digital timer. The pump is on for a few extra min than it takes to fill the system. Simple and rez temps aren't such an issue, like they are in DWC.
And you have the space...so use a light mover. But only move it across a 7' span.
So 3x3sites in a 7x8' space or preferably 3x4sites for a slightly shorter veg.

 

[Gilles&Cheryl]

. i do know that the control bucket holds all the nutrient solution, but what i dont understand is how it gets distributed to each bucket in exact incriments and even at the same time??

Imagine if you had two buckets that were connected by a piece of pipe/tubing near the bottom of each bucket. If you were to pour water in one bucket it would run out the piece of pipe and into the other bucket, filling them both at the same time.

A control bucket is a bucket that is connected to all the DWC buckets via pipe/tubing near the bottom of the buckets. When you pour water/nutes into the control bucket it fills each of the DWC buckets to the same level.

 

[Mist]

I am also a fan of the Ebb&Gro / Multi-Flow systems. I ran DWC systems with controller buckets for over 10 years and got tired of always checking the air stones and dealing with airlines and air pumps. With the Ebb&Gro system I have now there is "0" system maninenance during the grow cycle. Just keep the nutrients coming and watch the plants grow.
I get the same rate of growth and the same production I got with DWC too.

 

[Dnutz]

Thanks for all the input guys! This Ebb&Gro system sounds like the ticket so far, looks like I will be doing some reading!! On the fans, I will be using a passive intake most likely since the room is in the basement next to the laundry room, the fan will be a 6" vortex fan pulling through a scrubber hanging from chains, and will be pulled through both lights and out to a fabiricated window box and out the window. I have seen this done on a video and it worked very well!

JustanotherDave- I dont know about the light mover, would it really be worth the money? And would I be able to attach both lights to it and have it slide the 7'? My goal with the grow is around 4-5lbs with everything, since my first DWC harvest I pulled 14.75z's with 2 plants that vegged for 2 months. Pretty fair reasoning but I could be wrong?

Thanks for all the input guys/gals if they are around!!

 

[HippyJohnny]

Google universal garden... if you are real adventurous try a bio-bucket set up. Lots of documentation on that system and the results in a room you have would be very nice.

 

[JustanotherDave]

JustanotherDave- I dont know about the light mover, would it really be worth the money? And would I be able to attach both lights to it and have it slide the 7'?

Most movers aren't used properly IMO. Even the manufacturers of the units advise them to be used to cover way too much area IMO.

Say you're gonna have 1K horizontal lighting covering a 4x5' area each...so 8' across and 5' in length for 2K. Lets say a conservative yield of 1.5lbs per, 3lb total in 40 sqft. That's 1.2oz per sqft.
Now move the lights so your still covering the 8' across but now you go 6.5' long and fill the space with more plant material. That's an extra 12sqft of area. But the light is never moving more than 9" off center. This keeps the plants under intense light with the added benefit of increasing the light angles per plant in the main 40sqft.
Even if we are conservative and say the extra area(lengthwise) only produce half what the rest do(.6oz per sqft instead of 1.2)... .6oz x 12sqft = 7.2oz more. In my neck of the woods, 7oz more than covers the cost of a light mover

I've done this^...it is not speculation.
But anyways...don't worry about it at first ...you have the space to add one later if it strikes your fancy.

 

[mrwags]

IMO the idea of using a rail is simple if you keep it simple. Imagine that your leaves of your plants are all green solar panels that soak up the energy from the light and at night send that stored energy down to the roots to feed the growth. A mover is going to allow ALL those panels during the course of the run the ability to get that needed energy.

When used in conjunction with co2 great genes and a controlled environment that provides all she needs to blossom you would be surprised what is possible for such a small area.

Buckets are goober proof in usage and gets you more bang for your buck considering your plant count and in some states that consideration is very much needed.


My Penny
Mr.Wags

 

[buddah]

go for SOG....without a long veg!!! Vertical is great for field but u have to veg longer..and veg day are expensive

 

[mrwags]

go for SOG....without a long veg!!! Vertical is great for field but u have to veg longer..and veg day are expensive

Good point but as well you could with Buckets right b4 ya flip them take cuts and veg for the 12/12 cycle in pots once harvested drop in your cuts you have worked with for 7-8 week give 3-4 days to root then flip them baby's. Cuts down on veggin in buckets to simply rooting and flowering.


Mr.Wags

 

[Dnutz]

im convinced the light rail is a good bet in the space that i have! im working with bagseed temporarily which will be interesting to see what comes of it, workin on some good genetics but im skeptical still of ordering online, however sb will be my site of choice! Also for a perpetual harvest effect, (i have a closet in the same room i.e. bedroom in the basement) what do you recommend to get a harvest ever month or two instead of the obvious 3 months?

 

[st0ne]

There are as many ways to grow, as there are people that grow. We could overwhelm you with a thousand options, or perhaps if you aren't akin to one yet.. begin with the basics. I've amazing results from simplicity. Typically soil is used by beginners, although some would argue weather it's any easier than hydro. It takes a long time to master the techniques to get a "bumper" crop. It's not that any system is any better than the other, only that it works well for that particular individual.

Research grasshopper.

 

[Dnutz]

hahaha ya I hear that! I personally find hydro to be very simple! dirt is just too basic for me! Im just curious as to how they perfect perpetual harvest comes along! I guess thats what research will do for me lol!