Fisher's Farm

[Jenn]

Ya Michigan is hurting bad.... You can seriously buy 2000+ square foot homes in Detroit for $10,000.00 If you dont believe me then go to Realtor dot com and type in Detroit MI and top the price out at 10 grand...you will get at least a couple hundred houses.

When Michigan gets going like Cali, the clubs will be in the burbs like Royal Oak and Ann Arbor...maybe Detroit but who the fuck wants to go there....yes it is as bad as they say.

Anyway I look extremely forward to the day I can walk into a store and buy my damn Bubba Kush and Purple Kush cuts that I've wanted forever.

I have been checking out land for sale in Nor Cal though, the winters here are brutal, this past January the weather did not get above freezing one time...not once for an entire month....

Soooo sorry about being a thread jacker.... - Jenn

 

[nomaad]

I am guilty of jacking fisher's thread at least once a week. sorry.

 

[fisher15]

I'm looking at clovers and vetches for my cover crop.

Nomaad, why use new soil next year? Do you think it's different growing in planters than in holes? You had it a lot easier with the bag soil, no shoveling necessary, but I bet you dropped a bit more on 14 yards than I did on 60, even with all the perlite and dry nutes. Shouldn't have to be an investment you make every year. Unless maybe weed santa hooks it up...

I actually lived in MI before migrating this way. Was thrilled they got their shit together and passed the bill. I've got friends back there hitting me up for advice and cuts now, hah.

Nomaad, the music follows me, I don't know why but I roll with it...

This page could use some pics, I took a lot last night so let me get to town and upload em. Got a few that are almost to be above the tall cages...shit.

 

[ROOTWISE]

Fisher--just a heads-up to make sure that you inoculate that clover seed. It really makes a difference. Peaceful Valley sells all the different inoculants for each seed variety/family. Fix that N baby!!!

Can't wait for your new pics....

 

[humble1]

rye is also a good cover crop option!

 

[nomaad]

Nomaad, why use new soil next year? Do you think it's different growing in planters than in holes? You had it a lot easier with the bag soil, no shoveling necessary, but I bet you dropped a bit more on 14 yards than I did on 60, even with all the perlite and dry nutes. Shouldn't have to be an investment you make every year. Unless maybe weed santa hooks it up...

I just have too many extremely knowledgeable people telling me (and showing me with their MASSIVE yields, year after year) that the best formula starts with fresh bag dirt every year. We're talking about people who yielded 7 lbs on their smallest plant last year and 11 on their biggest. They just got 4.5lbs/plant in the greenhouse with lite sup techniques in early May... and that doje was indoor quality.

About $3500 in dirt went into the 36 pots that remain after the sheriff came. Other than the 450ft of 'make the neighbors love me' fencing, it was my biggest single expense. If you figure this into a per-plant cost and subtract that from the final value of the plant at 3 lbs, the economics of it seem to still work for me. If I get 5, its negligible. If I get a couple with 7... well... you get it.

So.. that is the formula by which I live or die right now. I'll do the right thing on a couple or three 200gals this winter. I'll till in fresh compost and all kinds of poop, as per the best info I can put together and plant a cover crop for the nitrogen fixing and all that and we'll see how they compare next year to bag dirt. I might also do some fresh truck dirt that my friends have been using to compare as well.

I'm all about proving the current paradigm wrong. So if a workable organic one comes along, I am for sure going to put it to the test. I'm keeping a close eye on your progress for exactly that reason.

 

[fisher15]

Are your friends getting those sick yields in planters, holes, or a bed? If planters, what size? They obviously know what they're doing but it just seems like an insane amount of work for what I'm still skeptical of the benefits.

My soil bill was about $2200 for the 60 yds, another grand in perlite and dry nutes. Yah, the cost of buying new should be insignificant, but I'm not into throwing money around if I don't have to...

RW- good call on the inoculant, I'll be sure to grab em next time I'm over that way...

And right on, humble...I've used rye before, worked great at breaking up clay soils

 

[JOE CHRONIC]

Hey fisher,
Looking forward to seeing those trees of yours...

 

[nomaad]

Are your friends getting those sick yields in planters, holes, or a bed? If planters, what size? They obviously know what they're doing but it just seems like an insane amount of work for what I'm still skeptical of the benefits.

Those yields were in 300 gallon holes (25 bags of dirt) in sand and rock with gopher caging. The sup lite greenhouse yield was in a 200 gallon smartpot. This year they are doing 600 gallon holes, each with a palette of bag dirt in em. Also, 600 gallon smartpots in the greenhouse. If they don't have a 15 or 17 lb plant, they will be disappointed. They are growing Blue Dream exclusively, by the way.

What if you could have a 250lb pull from 18 plants? Its worth a try, right? Obviously, I am not looking at anything like that, but if thjere is a formula for a hard-working newb like myself to pull five-a-plant without having years of experience with soil conditioning, over-wintering, tea-making, etc, its worth a try. If the soild investement comes up as not worth it, its not like I'm going to lose my shirt.

If I spend 5 grand on each of my grows of this scale that goes toward proving something was the wrong choice, I considers that a solid expense in the name of science.

My soil bill was about $2200 for the 60 yds, another grand in perlite and dry nutes. Yah, the cost of buying new should be insignificant, but I'm not into throwing money around if I don't have to...

I won't throw it around twice unless it proves itself effective.

 

[fisher15]

 

[fisher15]

 

[fisher15]

Starting to smell like a MJ farm...hit me hard as soon as I opened the gate

I went through about 3000 gallons of water this weekend. Deepwatered everything, and they're loving it. Bring on the budz

 

[aero1]

perfekt grow my bro !!! keeep rockin !

 

[THC123]

Lovely organic bushes

 

[nomaad]

Thanks for the pics fisher. Huge, man. Gonna be huge.

 

[fisher15]

Thanks, all...

N- huge, maybe, but really doubt I'll get a 15 pack off one...

Gives me something to shoot for next year though. Didn't know SP made a 600...nuts

First pic of the second posting above is the goo. Really love both how it grows and smokes. There may be tastier stuff around, but the plant is something special. Know a lot of folks monocrop it. I wanted to get some gush in, but it didn't end up happening. So chronic...

 

[JOE CHRONIC]

Fucking "A" Bro, fucking "A"...

 

[nomaad]

I am assuming that's a kushxgoo cross?

Smartpots will make any size and dimensions you want so long as it is a cylinder of some kind. My 200's are custom made to be shallower and wider. There was about 4 weeks of lag time after I ordered them and once the season got in full swing, it was pretty impossible top get customs anymore. I would sday that if you're trying to plant in em next may, you'd want to order customs in February. demand is only going to go up.

 

[ourcee]

dammmn

 

[neongreen]

Insane!

I love it!

I think you could be looking at double figures on some of those! Sweet genes too!!!

One question - how long have they got before they start flowering?

You'll have to take the "Tom Hill Test" at harvest


...which I'm sure you'll pass with flying colors!

Great work Fisher, to put it mildly!