Cheap pure C99 availability

[Hughesy]

Please do so Xyz
would be nice if someone released a 50 dollar max or so Cindy line so many growers, and not just the wealthy ones, could get some c99's going and hopefully in time it could make c99 a well spread line again
im planning something similar, a 50 dollar max release, but due to having so much work with current cannabis they woundt be made until so ime in winter and wont hit the market until late winter or spring so it would be really great if some one made and released some affordable cindy's before that

big thumbs up for your project

When I read the other dudes quote i had to LOL when he said the WET Australian outdoors bwah ha ha its the DRIEST Continent on earth.

WALLYS c99 is GOOD. Moscas is just another money Grab.

PAY no MORE THAN $50 for Cinderella 99 from Now on.
Mark my words- theres millions of seeds of c99 being made worldwide now.

 

[XyZ]

lasko - ok i'm on it :wink:

Gunnarguchi - yes bro i'm tired to see such numberz of $$ just for a few seeds of the so called elite'lines

The SourD we tried a few yearz back was unique in taste & the first 2 joints were very potent, but than comes this incredible fast tolerance and individual plants were also heavy-intersexual (quasi-females with some balls here and later some nanners there) ...now if we look at the whole picture; good taste but fast-tolerance, long flowering + high hermie-potential... it's not a wonder that nobody in our area was interested to make more sourD, not even for freeebies (while the price for a single original pack was 160$ and not even all germ) --- Many folks here expect similar problems with the chemdog seeds and personally i know no1 who will try again the hype for so much money (the people actually have the cash but most are just not stupid enough to make the same mistake again

The C99 is outstanding for her really fast flowering and much less hermie potential, yet still sativa effects with wonderful tropical aromas, & well grown she can be a decent yielder as well. This is one of the strains where you just cant help yourself and have to make more beans of this beauty

 

[Hughesy]

lasko - ok i'm on it :wink:

Gunnarguchi - yes bro i'm tired to see such numberz of $$ just for a few seeds of the so called elite'lines

The SourD we tried a few yearz back was unique in taste & the first 2 joints were very potent, but than comes this incredible fast tolerance and individual plants were also heavy-intersexual (quasi-females with some balls here and later some nanners there) ...now if we look at the whole picture; good taste but fast-tolerance, long flowering + high hermie-potential... it's not a wonder that nobody in our area was interested to make more sourD, not even for freeebies (while the price for a single original pack was 160$ and not even all germ) --- Many folks here expect similar problems with the chemdog seeds and personally i know no1 who will try again the hype for so much money (the people actually have the cash but most are just not stupid enough to make the same mistake again

The C99 is outstanding for her really fast flowering and much less hermie potential, yet still sativa effects with wonderful tropical aromas, & well grown she can be a decent yielder as well. This is one of the strains where you just cant help yourself and have to make more beans of this beauty

& NOW HES PUTTING SHIT ON SOUR DIESEL & CHEMDOG.

COME OFF THE GRASS@xYZ

 

[BENJI]

When I read the other dudes quote i had to LOL when he said the WET Australian outdoors bwah ha ha its the DRIEST Continent on earth.

WALLYS c99 is GOOD. Moscas is just another money Grab.

PAY no MORE THAN $50 for Cinderella 99 from Now on.
Mark my words- theres millions of seeds of c99 being made worldwide now.

Hughesy i know up there in queensland and northern NSW it aint dry mate far from it actualy its very humid and wet and hot u want dry go to broken hill...

Wallys C99 is great and so is moscas ill back both of them as for moscas being a cash grab far from it they are priced around the same as wallys were...

 

[Hughesy]

Never been there wouldn`t know but it does not rain that much in Australia do a wiki search .P.S Wallys was priced High and then the price dropped. It should only be $50 before too long for ANY CINDY>mark my words.

 

[yortbogey]

Hughesy i know up there in queensland and northern NSW it aint dry mate far from it actualy its very humid and wet and hot u want dry go to broken hill...

Wallys C99 is great and so is moscas ill back both of them as for moscas being a cash grab far from it they are priced around the same as wallys were...

YEP,YEP,YEP...yep,yep,yep...yep

 

[danny karey]

Mosca just had release of C99 F1's ( Wally's c99 X Reff's c99) and a Backcross, the bins were 50$. Who the hell are you man, trying to say packs of Cindy should be 50$????? Damn man, I wish all seeds were 50$ a pack, but in case you didn't know this.........IT"S ALOT OF WORK MAKING SEEDS, ESPECIALLY GOOD ONES THAT PEOPLE WILL BE HAPPY WITH.

Alright Hughesy, Im waiting on your C99 release for 50$, can't wait man, you must be coming out with a line since you know so much...LOL!!!!

Dude, pull your head out of your ass and look around man...........You usually talk about shit you know nothing about??

Danny


Ps 50$ a pack is hardly a money grab,

 

[Heatwave]

Wally is a man with integrity, dont believe he would ever lie to the public. so far i know, he started working with grimz C99 seeds,

Wally started with Gypsy's F2 version.

 

[XyZ]

well i agree about 50$ per pack (probably even less & don't forget my packs have alwayz 11 full-matured beans

the seeds should be done approximately in a good month and ready on seedbay before the summer ends (BIN-only)

 

[BENJI]

When I read the other dudes quote i had to LOL when he said the WET Australian outdoors bwah ha ha its the DRIEST Continent on earth.

WALLYS c99 is GOOD. Moscas is just another money Grab.

PAY no MORE THAN $50 for Cinderella 99 from Now on.
Mark my words- theres millions of seeds of c99 being made worldwide now.

No money grab hughesy far from it...

Let's be Clear:
I think Mosca's doing it Right.
This is,essentially,an inbred "Jack Herer" line,and it all initially started with a JH bagseed that was found in a bag labelled "Jack Herer",in an Amsterdam coffeeshop.
Hence,it MAY not even BE "Jack Herer",given the proclivity of Dutch coffeeshops to label whatever they buy,however they see fit.
As most of us who visit regularly know,truth in labeling is NOT a strong suit of Dutch coffeeshops.
I don't see Mosca's C99 Project as a "money grab" at all,in fact,like I sazid,I'm superfuckinhappy that someone else is doing C99 Projects-it takes the pressure off of Reservoir to be bothered,is how I see it.
He and I would approach this differently-I'd bottleneck my "pineapple" C99 ("f2") Mom,and he's inter-breeding other people's Cinderella. Different strokes,really doesn't matter,the only difference is that his will have more phenotypic variations than a C99 that Reservoir would release,is all.
....And,imo,that's not a Bad Thing,at all.
With an inbred (and inbred,and inbred) line like this,terms like "f1" and "f2" don't really seem to apply,though they're the easiest descriptive terms to use.
Personally,I'm pissed at reeferman,he owes me well over $10,000 USD-and from what I've been told,RM's last "William's Wonder" release was bred courtesy of the 100 packs of RESERVOIR's William's Wonder seeds he got from me,but never paid for.
Nice,huh?
Anyhow,I'm glad Mosca's into the C99,and growers everywhere will be better off,as a result.


Cheers!

 

[BENJI]

Please read this Hughesy before you start assuming things....

Hey mosca , really great to see you making the c99, i loved the results crazycomposer showed from his grow.
You mentioned some subtle differences between the reef and wally c99, could you fill us in a little on what you noticed? Was it mainly in growth , look , or the end results with smell etc.

Talk about excitement! Apology accepted Cinderella99. Let's get back to the real reason we are here-- The wonderful sacred herb...

Thanks for posting your pics Lean Green-- I am interested in your experience and comments with your Cinderella 99 grow. Your dried center cola looks like just like mine- Purdy!

Hola Donald Mallard! Thanks for poppin' by. I hope you will be along for the ride. Got your pm and I will respond later tonight. But to answer your inquiry about the differences I see between your Cinderella 99 line and Reeferman's Cinderella 99-- here are my observations:


PLANT STRUCTURE:
Wally's C99 are more Sativa-like with thinner stems and branches. Plants are taller with longer branches
Reef's C99 are more Indica-like with heavier, thicker stems and branches. Plants are bushier. Reeferman told me he did a large grow of original Brothers Grimm seeds that he got from the owner of Heaven's Stairway just before H.S. closed operations. He chose the best plants from the large grow he did.

FLOWER STRUCTURE
Wally's C99 Buds/Colas are tight and hard with many buds the size of golf balls-- on the bigger colas clusters of these buds can be seen.
Reef's C99 Buds, Colas are looser (not as tight and hard as Wallys' C99 buds) with less distinction of individual bud clusters but generally bigger cola formations on the branches.

TASTE & HIGH
Wally's C99 line has the a more consistant Pineapple taste prevalent among his plants. The High is racier leaning to more of a Sativa-like high that is more in the head.
Reef's C99 has more variation in taste with both Pineapple and Grapefruit phenos being prevalent. I need to stress the Pineapple pheno is definitely there.

Footnote: I have read many reports from Spain saying they only saw the Grapefruit pheno in growing out Reef's seeds and did not see any plants with the Pineapple smell or taste. But I did easily find Pineapple pheno offspring in Reef's line. In fact, the mother of my Cinderella line has these Pineapple traits and are original Reeferman seeds. The high is also Sativa influenced-- that being quite heady and strong.

Yield

Wally's C99 has a smaller yield avg 1-2.5 ozs per plant.
Reef's C99 has a higher yield avg 2.5-4.0 ozs per plant.

My goal in trying to produce Cinderella 99 seeds is to maintain the Pineapple traits, euphoric high, fast flowering times, ease of cultivation while trying to increase yield and create stronger plant structure-- in this case the addition of Reeferman's heavier C99 line. This is why bringing both lines/families together to make a stronger Cinderella 99 made sense to me after I grew them out. While at the same time being aware of the backcross depression that was becoming more prevalent in the line.
Mosca

Thanks for explaining your observations there mosca, have to agree it would be nice to have a plant with stronger branches , many complain c99 wont hold itself up in flower, i think that is more prominent indoors .
Id like to grow these out aswell , sounds like youve done some good homework mosca and yes i agree on the need to cross back as you have to maintain the integrity of the strain, continuous inbreeding with small numbers will no doubt cause problems .
@ rezdog, totally agree with you on the inbreeding depression, id say wally has stretched it as far as one can , and there is a wider variation in generations later than f5 .

 

[Marlo]

Let the haters hate Benji! Dude has his mind made up about Mosca
More beans for us!!!

Your plants look good XYZ.

MARLO

 

[yortbogey]

thanks for stay-in ontop of cshit.....benji...great resourcing.....
just blast'in the neysayerz and haterz back into reality......
it only took 6 dayz for the first one too showup.........
say hueygh or what ever....go spin U'r web somewhere else......
and tell groady-ho....thankz BUT nothankz for the potpimp link......hawk'in beanz and other website.....nonononon.....
my c99 needz are already cover.......mosca took care of that.

 

[Gunnarguchi]

lasko - ok i'm on it :wink:

Gunnarguchi - yes bro i'm tired to see such numberz of $$ just for a few seeds of the so called elite'lines

The SourD we tried a few yearz back was unique in taste & the first 2 joints were very potent, but than comes this incredible fast tolerance and individual plants were also heavy-intersexual (quasi-females with some balls here and later some nanners there) ...now if we look at the whole picture; good taste but fast-tolerance, long flowering + high hermie-potential... it's not a wonder that nobody in our area was interested to make more sourD, not even for freeebies (while the price for a single original pack was 160$ and not even all germ) --- Many folks here expect similar problems with the chemdog seeds and personally i know no1 who will try again the hype for so much money (the people actually have the cash but most are just not stupid enough to make the same mistake again

The C99 is outstanding for her really fast flowering and much less hermie potential, yet still sativa effects with wonderful tropical aromas, & well grown she can be a decent yielder as well. This is one of the strains where you just cant help yourself and have to make more beans of this beauty

right one bro..

i think myself that outdoor seeds that are made with not too much investments and in large batches should not cost more than 25-40 a pack depending on work and investments in both time and money and also security and risk taken into accounts

no body can keep up serious breeding for free
not even Marc Emery
but prices should still have a decent price tag
but still you cant give them away for free or almost free when theres jail time and a lot of money invested

indoor seeds between 30-60 dollars as max for strains that are expensive to breed due to slow growth and low seed yield

well thats just my personal opinion and what im aiming for as retail price later for my own and seeds sold under the CLBA brand
and my opinion on what seeds are worth and what customers should pay as a maximum price for them

regarding Sour Diesel
have been interested in it for awhile but the hermies and overpriced price tag have kept me from trying it
not long ago a fellow grower send me a SD clone that i look forward to flowering later but so far not planning on using her for serious breeding
just a few in and outdoor crosses IF she's hermie free as told
maybe Golden Diesel ( sour diesel x pot of gold) and Early Diesel ( Early Dane x pot of gold), depends on what she reveals when flowered out as a test first

about Chemdawg
havent tried her so i cant say

 

[McSnappler]

WALLYS c99 is GOOD. Moscas is just another money Grab.

If you took five minutes to chat to Mosca you would know how far you are from the truth. Dude cares about the plant first and foremost.

There were C99 BIN packs at $50, which is also incidentally where the reserve appears to be on his C99 auctions. Considering the amount of time, effort and dedication that went into producing the beans for this release, to have them all harvested, packaged up, various crosses, and two pure C99 lines, ready for sale all at once.. you think it's a cash grab?!

I want some of whatever you're smoking, it must be some serious shit.

 

[whyme2]

Bought some of the C99 BX-1. I am excited to try out C99 in any form. This release gives me and many others a chance to try and see for ourselves. Supply and Demand determines price. If people didn't want the beans they wouldn't pay for them. I certainly hope their are many more C99 releases from different breeders. Give all of us a chance to check out the genetics for ourselves.
I grow for safety and to know what I am getting. I don't sell ever. Many(if not most) growers do sell for profit (or just to support the cost of their hobby). Why shouldn't people making beans be able to make some cash too. Good weed and whatever is "hot" sells for more money. Again it comes down to supply and demand.

My thanks to Mosca for making this release. I just hope to love C99 as much as many here do.

 

[XyZ]

but still you cant give them away for free or almost free when theres jail time and a lot of money invested

hmm probably correct ..but still... what i sell on seedbay is only about 5% from what i share for free

 

[Care Free 1]

well i agree about 50$ per pack (probably even less & don't forget my packs have alwayz 11 full-matured beans

the seeds should be done approximately in a good month and ready on seedbay before the summer ends (BIN-only)

Great, I'll run them next to the Blockberry's, and Mosca's C99.

 

[cktRAVEl]

Joey weed makes f2's from original brothers grimm stock but is out for the time being,,, wallys are f5's from original brothers grimm i think but im not 100% and yes i would guarantee that wallys have never had anything crossed into them just his selections which i wouldnt question as i have the upmost respect for wally as a person and breeder the same goes for mosca,,, C99 is stable whoever you get it from wally or mosca...

But with that being said C99 is basicaly an IBL and a pretty stable one at that so calling it f5 or f whatever is not exactly correct...

Dang it...thank you Benji. You caught what I was trying to articulate.

Joey Weed makes F2's
Wally's are F5's
Reefermans are F?

Why was that so difficult?

Simple question...who make F2's? Not F5's or F6's.

I didn't ask for someone to sell me on Mosca's C99, or tell me how wonderful it is. But apparently it was taken that way.

For the record I purchased Mosca's before I asked the question. I wanted an F2 C99 line as well as Mosca's. I guess maybe I shouldn't be so greedy. Just take whats offered and ask no questions. Hey, I would make a good sheeple!!

 

[XyZ]

Great, I'll run them next to the Blockberry's, and Mosca's C99.

Hehe sounds like a compliment, anyway wonder why would you buy more c99 if you already have the mosca version? :smile:

can you tell me how are my Blockberry seeds lookin... compared to the mosca c99? don't know mosca so im just wondering