Grow meds for a living?

[FreedomFGHTR]

I gotta say IE2KS_KUSH post is spot on. While being as legal as possible within my local jurisdiction the risk of going to the feds is still present. This is while living in a medical state too. Having several mp5's pointed at you with a boot on your skull is no fun. Doing time in prison is 10 times worse, I know from personal experience. People die in prison daily who would have otherwise been fine if they were free. Prisons and Jail are dangerous places. While the tides are turning in our favor, the federal laws are still on the books. So do you have the balls to do it? I hope so!

 

[Gilles&Cheryl]

Thank you all so much for the replies. There have been some interesting points made. I have "given out too much reputation in the last 24 hours" but I will get everybody who took the time to type. Thanks again.

 

[trybud]

Yes, i deal with a couple dispensaries, i provide directly to patients and im helping an association of co-ops get off the ground (with a small yearly donation to a couple hospice orgs). Im at my limit though, an expansion would be nice (and bump up my income) but as others are saying you can still get in big trouble with the feds and i'd rather not get tangled up with that kind of risk. Im in a unique position as a couple local LEO(poker buddies of friends) know a little bit about my operation and look the other way( ive provided to relatives of theirs And even donated directly to ones mother who was terminal and NOT a patient)They promise to put me away if i ever start to play outside the box tho..
EDIT---- Im not running a delivery service by any means, EVERY patient ive provided for i know personally or i hear of through friends.

 

[Gilles&Cheryl]

Sounds like you have got it going on pretty good, trybud. I didnt realize you had to be so careful. In my mind, I had imagined Cali like a lawless, wild west grow show.

 

[Weedman Herb]

medmaker and trybud ... what kind of "meds" are you running or planning on running?

 

[trybud]

I provide meds from the same strains as the clones i vend (see the sac clones thread and dont pay attention to my gibberish there) plus what ever strains im testing at the time. No concentrates (i make for my own use) and no edibles (i give these away) because ive heard of people catching charges for vending them specifically..Its a crap shoot out here, one LEOs idea of compliance wont always be the same as another LEOs

 

[nephilthim]

freedom fighter strain

freedom fighter strain

master freedom pre98 bubba og,or master lambsbread freedom fighter.I have some n ice beans,a little green,but a few more weeks and Ill have tiger stripes.
take your pick or create a better name with freedom fighter, I have crossed masterr kush with master kush,and pre 98 bubba og,lambsbread and sour bubba.
I appreciate freedom fighter viewpoints and input,and told him months ago I would name a new strain with his name!

 

[Greyskull]

if you are running deliveries make sure WHERE you are delivering to is not federal property
in san diego a few months a go a few delivery services got into heeps of trouble providing for LEO acting as patients on the marine base. fyi....

good luck.
be safe - its crazy out there.

 

[Greyskull]

so you can see some fo the dark side...
http://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?t=127529

you guys noticed this? maybe its because of the summer heat or something, but in the last 3 days there have been a handful of MMJ related robberies.



First there was the shooting at a hydro shop in castro valley, hydro shop owner is shot in the head and dies INSIDE his shop!



then on the same day in the same city, a home invasion where three guys broke into a grow house and stole everything, then crashed the getaway car and were arrested. (phew) the growers claim it was a legal grow and they had permission, they were safe from state prosecution but not from rippers!



In Pittsburgh CA a young marijuana dealer was shot and killed by a 16 and 17 year old over a deal gone bad.



In fremont they just busted a 350 plant grow and it made the news.



Plus last month my roomate was robbed for half a pound here in oakland from some rippers. Plus all the crime that went down this year, i know of at least 3-4 MMJ related shootings dating back to january.



Keep it safe out there yall. Some people seem to think that this business is some lolly gaggin lazy chill laid back thing, but you will be in for a surprise when some punk puts a gun in your face demanding your crops.

don;t get cute or you;ll get caught slippin

 

[Miss Blunted]

Stay true to what you believe in and pm me with any concerns, questions or emotional rants.... I can help you prepare.

 

[Pops]

Far too many folks think that Cali is the Wild,Wild West and everything is legal. You have to realize that Cali is a huge state and every county has its own regs. What you might get by with in NorCal, will get you busted in SoCal. You might make a good living in Oakland and do time in Redding or San Diego.

Cali is in a state of suspension, with the 3rd Court Of Appeals ruling on plant counts being depublished and waiting for a Cali Supreme Court review. If you are going to grow and sell pot in Cali, it is best to pretend like it is totally illegal and take the necessary precautions.

 

[JWH-018]

Technically I think you'd have a hard time doing it 100% legal in California according to the AG. 99% of what people do is illegal to some degree, it just isn't enforced. In Colorado if you became caregiver for enough patients to cover the plants it is otherwise much easier to be 100% legal as while the limits are smaller there aren't the restrictions on sales and profits. Though they are trying to tighten up the law. Practically California is easier of course.

 

[medmaker420]

medmaker and trybud ... what kind of "meds" are you running or planning on running?

super lemon haze
grand daddy purple
federation romulan
white widow cross
1776 (white rhino/ducksfoot/romulan)
sour bubble bx3

And then will be getting strains from local med growers as well to add to the strain list. Going to start small, more strains/less weight and only take on so many patients. I am not trying to be the largest but enough to make a decent living and be able to grow for a living and hobby all at the same time.

 

[meduser180056]

I don't think its a good idea to think your gonna come out to cali and legally grow for patients and make a living.
I think you have the wrong idea of what it's like in cali.
You can't do it legally unless you are in a collective/coop and getting paid a salary for providing meds and even then it's a fine line.
You have to pay taxes and have all your ducks in a row and even then if the feds decide they want you you have no defense.

I think it's crazy hearing about all these people that want to come out to cali to grow. I can understand why, but what it's really like and what these people think it's like is just night and day. You can be in a very liberal area and have to hide what you do just like someone in a midwestern does so it's not like it's a free for all out here.

Basically you can't legally grow pot and sell it to patients here in cali so forget about it.

 

[DrBudGreengenes]

master freedom ,or master lambsbread freedom fighter.I have some n ice beans,a little green,but a few more weeks and Ill have tiger stripes.
take your pick or create a better name with freedom fighter, I have crossed masterr kush with master kush,and pre 98 bubba og,lambsbread and sour bubba.
I appreciate freedom fighter viewpoints and input,and told him months ago I would name a new strain with his name!

"News flash"......U have NOT created a STRAN....U have created some Unstable Hybrids....the will need tested and Back crossed to stabilize them
U R a pollen Chucker...not a breeder....lol
pre98 bubba og<<<<WTF is that?
I my self grow ...
Pre98Bubba
OG Kush....the HA cut
Noone I know has EVER heard of such a thing

I think maybe U dropped too many names in one sentence?

 

[nephilthim]

"News flash"......U have NOT created a STRAN....U have created some Unstable Hybrids....the will need tested and Back crossed to stabilize them
U R a pollen Chucker...not a breeder....lol
pre98 bubba og<<<<WTF is that?
I my self grow ...
Pre98Bubba
OG Kush....the HA cut
Noone I know has EVER heard of such a thing

I think maybe U dropped too many names in one sentence?

thanks you get my elitest dick of the month award for lacking spellcheck,potbonics, inane use of capital button ,and being in the northwest is it surprising you don't know anyone?
hope your cabins bigger than ted kacynskis..not

 

[smoke1sun]

Interesting perspectives on growing "legally" in Cali. It has never crossed my mind to move there and try this, but theres some interesting views'

From the outside lookin in, we think its the best thing in the world "freedom." But those involved has schooled us.

But my Cali friends it could be worse. Trust me, alot worse.

P.S. Still lookin for a strain that decreases nausea, from side effects to medication.

 

[opt1c]

I don't think its a good idea to think your gonna come out to cali and legally grow for patients and make a living.
I think you have the wrong idea of what it's like in cali.
You can't do it legally unless you are in a collective/coop and getting paid a salary for providing meds and even then it's a fine line.
You have to pay taxes and have all your ducks in a row and even then if the feds decide they want you you have no defense.

I think it's crazy hearing about all these people that want to come out to cali to grow. I can understand why, but what it's really like and what these people think it's like is just night and day. You can be in a very liberal area and have to hide what you do just like someone in a midwestern does so it's not like it's a free for all out here.

Basically you can't legally grow pot and sell it to patients here in cali so forget about it.

maybe if you wana sell it to patients but if you want to sell it to people who sell it to patients you're dead wrong... no offense but your info is straight up WRONG; i'm friends with some hella cool federal prosecutors, some da's and a bunch of lawyers; if you're under 99 plants in cali they could care less; if you sell to non patients all bets are out the window; if you play by the rules you're just another small fish in a big pond and cali is a really big pond; you can provide to collectives for just reimbursement to cover the overhead, labor, and risk of growing meds for them; if you have an exemption you can grow more plants than most dinky little 4-5 people co-ops and not have to have a grip of patients, liabilities, knowing about your grow and location... 9 out of 10 times you don't cover your overhead so you're not making a profit; sales taxes are only paid for RETAIL sales by clubs/delivery services to end users; if you're moving enough weight and you're putting it in the bank you might as well claim it on your personal income taxes but you don't have to be a business to sell your extra meds to collectives.. it's not exactly like the irs comes and weighs your harvest and assigns it a taxable value


you sound like you don't want any competition in your next of the woods; cali is the most liberal state in the country when it comes to pot; if you can't move here, grow, and make a living where else can u?

i could care less how hostile your county is; i highly doubt it even comes close to the police county in which i live, all that is happening to those counties is that they're consistently loosing money after loosing legal decision after legal decision when it comes to growing; opening up dispensaries is a different issue all together but when it comes to individuals growing the game has changed

but what do i know i've just been growing and vending to dispensaries for the past 10+ years; hell i've even owned stakes in a couple down in la before i sold my interests in them; and yeah you can legally grow pot and provide to dispensaries/delivery services... collectives are different than co ops, there really are no rules for collectives regarding membership and those who can and can't vend to them

and as far as i'm concerned cali still is the wild west; we have more people in prison than any other state; they ain't mr rogers when they come out; you're more likely to get shot for looking at someone the wrong way than damn near any other state i can think of if you live in a major metropolitan area; mexican cartels run drugs from sand diego to sacramento; most high schoolers have an easier time getting hard drugs than beer, people get shot here EVERY day; i don't think a day goes by in california where someone doesn't die a violent death; if this isn't the wild west what is?

i think the vast majority of people who smoke marijuana in cali are NOT patients; still, and we have the most liberal script allowances in the country.. cali is no joke

but i guess if you live in a nice gated community and never leave a 30 square mile radius you probably wouldn't notice that

 

[its420]

So you want the wonderfully unstable life of a farmer? Its just not money growing on trees. The wild west was NOT a friendly fun place. Being a ganja farmer isn't all headstash and hotties. I havent seen either in a while in fact.

Its farmin man, not glorious at all. The glory comes from being able to enjoy your plants without paranoia. Trying to make a living at something, whatever it is, makes you end up hating it at times. I had to stop being a professional photographer because I lost my passion for art and was just working. I know many friends who are burned out from farming. It not cheap or easy. The reward is personal, I dont know a single gardener/grower/farmer who is rich.

I know quite a few who struggle trying to live a dream. Personally thats what I do. I live a dream life being able to have the garden I do, but its a catch 22 because I'm alone. Farmers keep long, hard, lonely hours. Farming Ganja will still get you busted so you dont go bringin girls or new friends home.

Not saying dont live your dreams, just saying dont get caught up in the american illusion.
PEACE
420

 

[JeffSpicoli]

i hate how many people have moved cali, or plan to move here so they can 'cash in' on the 215 law.. Maybe im sounding a bit harsh (havent smoked since sunday, cant cause of medical issues)
but honestly, the amount of growers that have just started in the past year or so, cause of this ganja rush, its ridiculous... Every single day it seems like i meet someone, or over hear someone talkin about how they want to start growing.. And not out of the love of the plant, but in order to cash in on our Medical laws...

I started growing out of pure love for the plant, nothing more.. Money has always been the last thing on my mind when it comes to growing cannabis