One man. One plant. One plan.

[BagseedSamurai]

Fairly simple, really. This one started under CFL in a hydroponic setup. Changed to soil for easier mobility and placed it under a 70w HPS.

Two days in, after the transplant and it seems to be doing just fine, which is awesome. What I was wondering is, by the picture, how long do you think it should be till I flower? Im not expecting much either way, and it might even be male.

 

[exploziv]

If you plan on flowering under a 70w Hps... I think you should start flowering it now..

 

[BagseedSamurai]

Whats wrong with 70w HPS?

 

[nsideguy]

most internet information tells us that 100w per plant is a good goal to have. if you use 70w it may not be enough. you might get some whispier buds when the plant gets 1-2 feet taller, but if you start flowering now you might be able to keep the plant small enough to produce some good quality stuff.

 

[exploziv]

nothing wrong with a 70w Hps, but not enaugh lumens and covered space to have big plants.. remeber your plant will grow a lot in size during flowering..
also because you can deal with a male... is better not to wait and invest too much into this grow.

good luck!

 

[DiscoBiscuit]

That bulb will grow a fine plant. You'll get more yield with some training. How long to veg depends on your preference, equipment and the strain you're growing.

The bulb won't penetrate very deep into the plant. That's why it's a good idea to consider training at some point. A fan blowing between the bulb and canopy will help temps enough to get the bulb very close.

 

[FreezerBoy]

A 70 watt HPS is a great lamp, as long as your garden is about 1 cubic ft. Because of limited luminescence, failure to train will lead to stretch which will require greater penetration than the lamp can provide. LST, ScrOG, Super Crop will allow for horizontal growth. ScrOG kept my 19" long colas to 6" in height.

 

[alphacat]

V-SCROG would work great w/ a 70w HPS and increase yield significantly if done right.

http://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?t=84913
http://grower.cz/forum/showthread.php?threadid=21626&perpage=16&pagenumber=1

The Czechs who pioneered this approach used 70's, 150's, and at least one was a 400w; lots of folks since then have gone even bigger, but there's no reason it can't go smaller than 70w HPS either. The critical piece of this setup is ventilation though, esp. with a hot-ass HID.

Check some of my other posts about V-SCROG for more info.

 

[CMoon]

Whats wrong with 70w HPS?

nothing at all dude, but the blokes not dissing you

if you think you have the experience to scrog/hst/lst/vert in a colume on areoponic hardware its your call

and it might even be male.

aye theres a thing Id flower it now with that low power' hope its fem and take cuts from the bottom if it is.......

how long you guys gonna advise this guy to go advanced on this unsexed herb?

looks broad leafed and handsome' but your in bandit country on what it yeild

no more then a weeks more veg and bloom it

cmoon

 

[BagseedSamurai]

Id love to scrog or sog but I never have before. This is my 10th "run" but ive always just straight up flowered.

Plus, this timer I just bought is fucking convoluted. Its confusing me.

 

[DiscoBiscuit]

how long you guys gonna advise this guy to go advanced on this unsexed herb?

That's part of the game. Sometimes you play, sometimes you don't. A weeks veg at this point might be just fine. If I had nothing to replace, I'd give it what I think my setup can support. What happens after that is a gamble.

 

[BagseedSamurai]

Its 50/50 either way.

 

[alphacat]

Id love to scrog or sog but I never have before. This is my 10th "run" but ive always just straight up flowered.

Plus, this timer I just bought is fucking convoluted. Its confusing me.

I know it's hard to change habits sometimes, especially if it's worked fine for you in the past.

My buddy who's older and wiser than I when it comes to growing produces fantastic quality bud from also 'straight up flowering' - just a little bit of tie-down action when the shit gets dense at the end - offered me the following pearl of wisdom after I kept suggesting the latest & greatest innovations in technique learned from skulking around IC:

Each run, you do two sets of plants; one is your control (grown the same old way you've been doing it up til now) and one set is your experiment group. The key is that your experiment group should only have one variable different from the control grow, otherwise you learn nothing.

So next time, maybe try one group the old way, and one group scrogged - start w/ a flat scrog too to get the hang of it. You learn pretty quick what works, what doesn't, and if you pay attention... why.

 

[Lord Doobie]

alphacat, you've just described scientific methodology...others have to get the same results in replicating it to be valid