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dallasboy1975

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I was wondering if its even possible to buy seeds or cutting of the real genuine g13? is that possible? do any of the seed dealers carry the real thing?
 

shorty

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by "real genuine" i assume you mean from the US Federal Medical Marijuana Program. The alleged variety from this institution kept only clone form and any available hybrids are usually those crossed with a passive indica. I currently grow a G-13 variety from Mr.Nice selected for G-13 traits.
here is all you need to know regarding G-13;

https://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?t=120564

and here;

http://www.mrnice.nl/forum/showthread.php?t=162

hope that helps...

Hi, what's the variety that you grow from Mr Nice ?
 

Mr.Gahn

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a G13/Skunk that a friend had selected from 50 seeds. It was a gift and he had yet to flower it. I included a couple of small clones in a recent grow to see what they had to offer, I was really surprised! i'll include some pics soon-
 

REZDOG

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Neville had a G13 Clone.
From what I'm told,the Dronkers did NOT get a copy of the G13 Clone (it had been lost by then) by the time they bought Neville out,but they did get G13/Hash Plant seeds-which are the basis for their "G13/HP" they sell today.
Sensi's current G13/HP is nowhere near the G13/HP that Neville sold in the late 80s...
Imo Sensi did WAY too much careless cross-fucking without selecting for traits,& that equaled far inferior seeds....A shame,the Old School G13HP was kickass,and the pure "Hash Plant" of Neville's was awe-inspiring,even by today's standards....
His The Seed Bank sold a G13/Hashplant hybrid and a G13/NL hybrid,that was it.
Shantibaba has whatever Neville had left,for G13 genes,and with it,he did the G13/Skunk hybrid. Ask over at the MNS forum here,or search it there and see what you find.
Take it from me,"G13" isn't any Big Whoopee-it's almost mythological,but Cinderella 99,Sour Diesel,SFV OG Kush or Chemdog easily wipe the floor with it,as do most "modern" hybrids.



Cheers!
 

REZDOG

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Their "G13" male is,I believe,from a male that Soma has used extensively,and passed around Amsterdam,as well....Adam from THSeeds is good friends with Soma,so the "G13" in question is most likely his-
The story goes that Ed Rosenthal gave Soma two "G13/Haze" seeds,and the one seed that germinated,was a male.
That's it.
No authentic lineage,just a story....But a passable,haze-y male,it is,indeed.


Cheers!
 

Hindu Killer

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For once I agree wth REZ....I do have some G13/SK I F2 d to hunt for G13 plants. From Shanti's personal collection is orgin.
 
H

Hazeseeker

Their "G13" male is,I believe,from a male that Soma has used extensively,and passed around Amsterdam,as well....Adam from THSeeds is good friends with Soma,so the "G13" in question is most likely his-
The story goes that Ed Rosenthal gave Soma two "G13/Haze" seeds,and the one seed that germinated,was a male.
That's it.
No authentic lineage,just a story....But a passable,haze-y male,it is,indeed.


Cheers!

I'd love to know which Haze male Neville used to match up with the G13 cut, was it the now deceased HazeA, or the HazeC which is also used in SSH, NHS, Mango Haze? (C?+A?), Afghan Haze, ASH, Neville's Haze (C+A) etc (or maybe a completely different Haze male Neville had kept by)?:chin:

peace
 

BENJI

Between the Devil and the deep blue sea...
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I have some original G-13/skunk beans from shanti stashed in the back of my fridge might hafto pop them one day...
 

Mr.Gahn

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any G-13 hybrid is about as good as any Amsterdam Indica hybrid. Big buds, high resin content, generic taste and flavor. Don't be taken in by any hype names, grow herb that you have smoked before and have an affinity for. If you are in a conscious community clones (or seeds) should be available of local varieties.
 

bigherb

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REZ
....A shame,the Old School G13HP was kickass,and the pure "Hash Plant" of Neville's was awe-inspiring,even by today's standards

i feel the same its sad
im a hp lover one of my alltime fav a nyc hp n always been fascinated by this cross is their still a oldschool cut that has survived

how bout oldschool hp does she still survive/available


hazeseeker
I'd love to know which Haze male Neville used to match up with the G13 cut,

i thought its known to be the haze c male
ed rosenthal reports this in bbb volume 3

1luvbigherb
 

swampthing

Active member
IMO the real cut is easily some of the most potent med bud avail... and tho people doubt

i've had some sensi mr nice that came close to the ole miss cuts. though those are just about impossible to come across, i rec trying sensi's mr nice just bc a couple pheno's i got out of there were true medical bud.

night night danky, i highly rec
 
Z

Zeinth

g-??

g-??

well... I met 1 of the 8 legal goverment patients...i.e...his tins of rolled JOINTS..after 24 years he has 7 seeds...and all of them in his opinion are worthless...compared to todays hybrid medical cannabis.

what about that b.c. jedi...??

41 percent thc..ya right..695 for 10 pk of seeds...


mabie thats why b.c..seeds is closed for summer!


anyway...real g-13...or super genophenotype???

someday there will be more data on cannabis..at least there is change
 

RoadKillFunk

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It is a shame what sensi has done. I knew a guy that at one time had the old school HP that Rez is talking about, and it was awesome. I have never seen another HP that came close. He also had an old school super skunk, and the gnarliest garlic bud I have ever seen. All of them came from mid to late 80's a-dam seeds. From what I have seen none of todays offering by the same name even compare. The SS wreaked of skunk, and had huge amber glands. The garlic bud made you think about Italian food. When he quite he offered me his clones, but I had no place to grow. I was 16 at the time, and still at home. He literally just finished his last run, and composted the moms. I am still sad about that!

I know you can't belive much of the Cannabis bible, but that HP cut that is shown in there from sensi clones is one bad looking mofo. Why are they not breeding with it? Do they still have it? I have seen a lot of their Hp grown, and never a pheno remotely like that one. Their Mr. Nice is the most overpriced strain I have ever come into contact with. All the phenos truly smelled like hay.

RKF-
 

BENJI

Between the Devil and the deep blue sea...
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REZ
....A shame,the Old School G13HP was kickass,and the pure "Hash Plant" of Neville's was awe-inspiring,even by today's standards

i feel the same its sad
im a hp lover one of my alltime fav a nyc hp n always been fascinated by this cross is their still a oldschool cut that has survived

how bout oldschool hp does she still survive/available


hazeseeker
I'd love to know which Haze male Neville used to match up with the G13 cut,

i thought its known to be the haze c male
ed rosenthal reports this in bbb volume 3

1luvbigherb

Ive got some 94 sensi hash plant f3's in my fridge...
 

BENJI

Between the Devil and the deep blue sea...
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It is a shame what sensi has done. I knew a guy that at one time had the old school HP that Rez is talking about, and it was awesome. I have never seen another HP that came close. He also had an old school super skunk, and the gnarliest garlic bud I have ever seen. All of them came from mid to late 80's a-dam seeds. From what I have seen none of todays offering by the same name even compare. The SS wreaked of skunk, and had huge amber glands. The garlic bud made you think about Italian food. When he quite he offered me his clones, but I had no place to grow. I was 16 at the time, and still at home. He literally just finished his last run, and composted the moms. I am still sad about that!

I know you can't belive much of the Cannabis bible, but that HP cut that is shown in there from sensi clones is one bad looking mofo. Why are they not breeding with it? Do they still have it? I have seen a lot of their Hp grown, and never a pheno remotely like that one. Their Mr. Nice is the most overpriced strain I have ever come into contact with. All the phenos truly smelled like hay.

RKF-

The SS from sensi i got now is exactly how you described reeks of skunk and has massive swollen calyx's i love it,,, smoking it as i type...!!
 
H

Hazeseeker

i thought its known to be the haze c male
ed rosenthal reports this in bbb volume 3

1luvbigherb

Hi bigherb,
what page in the Big Book of Buds 3 does it mention Neville's uses the HazeC male?, i've got the Big Book of Buds 1+3 and never noticed it in the book?, it most likely is correct that HazeC was used but in order to believe it 100% i'd need to hear it from Shanti as Ed Rosenthal who writes the Big Book of Buds series is well known for feeding false/incorrect information within these books - for example he states the make up of Neville's Haze is:
"Haze x Mystery Indica" (Big Book of Buds 1, page 110)

when infact Neville's Haze is:
NL#5xHazeA x HazeC

he also says about Neville's Haze:
"this is a variety for those with the patience to wait the full 10 weeks required for a proper finish"

the thing is if a new medical patient/grower was to see this claim, start growing out the pack of Neville's Haze and realise that it won't finish in 10 weeks but infact more like at least 17-21 weeks till fully ripe it'll cause quite a shock,

don't get me wrong i love reading these books, some pretty nice pics etc but it's far from gospal tho

peace
 

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