A Reflection on "Obama and weed"

[Koroz]

What does that have to do with anything? If you read the news you'd know the reconstruction will go on for years. On top of that, Obama is going to keep military in Afghanistan. The war in Iraq may be ending, but Afghanistan will be a priority for years.....

Regardless, my post was to let people know to some there are bigger priorities.

Thank you Haps....

My post that you replied to was in response to someone implying that Obama wasn't working on ending the Iraq War. You said I should "read the news" which implies to me that you felt as though I was wrong about my assertion that the war in Iraq is ending. Also, the post I was quoting had nothing to do with Afghanistan, I mean I guess I could start pulling out random wars and skirmished that aren't involved in the conversation but that would be kinda lame... don't you think? And your post may have been to let people know there are bigger priorities, but you directly quoted me and told me to "read the news" which I do on a daily basis.

War = Military involvement.

War does not equal rebuilding the nation and keeping the peace which will go on for years. We sure could use some tax dollars from Cannabis back here in the states to help fund it though, ill tell you that.

Regardless your post has nothing to do with Cannabis Legalization, Laws or Legislation, so you should take your own moderating advice and remove it. As for your son, I wish him the best as I would any parent who has their children going overseas to be involved in these conflicts, my son is only a teen but he is close to the age at which point that might be a concern for me too.

 

[slappyjack]

Ummm .. 2010?

"Well come on over baby .. step into my time machine."

Nixon pulled the same thing in '68. He pulled the anti-war vote to get into office. Then in '72 just four days before the next election, he made an announcement that there was a new agreement that would end the war. "This is not a political move."

Obama isn't Nixon in any stretch of the imagination. He's not Bush either.

What's your point?

 

[Koroz]

Obama isn't Nixon in any stretch of the imagination. He's not Bush either.

What's your point?

His point is noted, but due to my typo of saying the war "ended" instead of saying "it sounds like its ending.." He was correcting my statement that the war had ended, even though I agree Obama isn't Nixon.

 

[greenhead]

Regardless, my post was to let people know to some there are bigger priorities.

I really don't believe that is a valid argument. People can always claim that there are other more important issues to deal with, war or no war.

Obama has already taken the time out of his extremely pressing and busy schedule to deal with many other "pressing" issues.

So basically -

- A person who is dying of cancer and growing a couple of plants = not a big priority for Obama

- Racist scumbags who threaten violence, intimidation and obstruct the voting process = big priority for Obama

Charges Against 'New Black Panthers' Dropped by Obama Justice Dept.

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2009/05/29/charges-black-panthers-dropped-obama/

 

[greenhead]

Obama isn't Nixon in any stretch of the imagination. He's not Bush either.

What's your point?

He's worse than both combined.

 

[slappyjack]

His point is noted, but due to my typo of saying the war "ended" instead of saying "it sounds like its ending.." He was correcting my statement that the war had ended, even though I agree Obama isn't Nixon.

Gotcha. This thread is confusing.

 

[iGro4Me]

which all but a hand full of troops will be out by the start of 1010. Sounds like it ended to me.

I'm assuming you meant 2010.....Anyway, I quoted that to revisit at the end of next year.

 

[Koroz]

I'm assuming you meant 2010.....Anyway, I quoted that to revisit at the end of next year.

I did, and I also meant to say "ending" not "ended"

 

[danut]

Obama isn't Nixon in any stretch of the imagination. He's not Bush either.

What's your point?

They say whatever it takes to get into office ..

They prey on the hopes and dreams of the people and then forget the people when they get into office.

Then it's back to the same old same old.

Until they need our vote again.

Meet the new boss .. same as the old boss.

 

[Koroz]

He's worse than both combined.

We know you are anti democrat, but considering Nixon was a big part of the start to the drug war, and Bush pushed for furthering illegal search and seizures in the name of self defense I hope this is just a troll.

Obama isn't perfect, far from it, but he is hardly worse then Bush and Nixon combined. The funny part is, if both of those people weren't Republicans (actually neither were Republican either, they are Neocons), and instead were democrats you would be hating on them as much as you hate on Obama because you are a strict party liner who doesn't vote on issues, just on party affiliation.

 

[greenhead]

We know you are anti democrat

I'm not a Republican and I've never once stated that I was one on this forum. I have also written here prior to the election that McCain wasn't that good of a choice either. I just really don't like Obama. I am more anti-socialist than I am anti-democrat.

 

[iGro4Me]

We know you are anti democrat, but considering Nixon was a big part of the start to the drug war, and Bush pushed for furthering illegal search and seizures in the name of self defense I hope this is just a troll.

Obama isn't perfect, far from it, but he is hardly worse then Bush and Nixon combined. The funny part is, if both of those people weren't Republicans (actually neither were Republican either, they are Neocons), and instead were democrats you would be hating on them as much as you hate on Obama because you are a strict party liner who doesn't vote on issues, just on party affiliation.

And what was it called when the folks on the left bashed Bush and everyone who voted for him...twice ?

Being a free thinker ?


The theme here should be that we have a common and shared interest and that there is NO left or right, only Us vs. Them

And neither party,up to and including, the master of marketing who currently resides on Pa. Ave. could really give a rat's ass about any of us.

 

[Koroz]

I'm not a Republican and I've never once stated that I was one on this forum. I have also written here prior to the election that McCain wasn't that good of a choice either. I just really don't like Obama. I am more anti-socialist than I am anti-democrat.

anti democrat doesn't imply republican. It just means you are anti democrat.

 

[Koroz]

And what was it called when the folks on the left bashed Bush and everyone who voted for him...twice ?

Being a free thinker ?


The theme here should be that we have a common and shared interest and that there is NO left or right, only Us vs. Them

And neither party,up to and including, the master of marketing who currently resides on Pa. Ave. could really give a rat's ass about any of us.

Not sure I follow you. The people who bashed Bush, myself included didn't start to disagree with him until he was further along then a few months into his office.

Bush's approval ratings didn't drop until A) he went into a war we didn't need to be in (Iraq) and B) started to push for governmental freedom in the trashing of our rights.

Calling Obama out like he is the worst president in history 5 months into his term is pretty lame attempt at just "getting back" at the people who didn't agree with Bush or his politics. For the record I am neither republican or Democrat, and I refuse to align myself with ANY party. I vote based on the people I have before me, not based on party values or rhetoric.

I didn't vote this year because I was injured, but I did vote for Bush in his first term, and did not vote for him in his second. I also Voted for Clinton during his first term. The point I am making is, you can call it whatever you want but if you look at green's history of posts you will see exactly why I worded my post toward him the way I did.

 

[greenhead]

anti democrat doesn't imply republican. It just means you are anti democrat.

That is true, but you did claim that I was a strict party liner who doesn't vote on issues, just on party affiliation. That would be incorrect and false.

"because you are a strict party liner who doesn't vote on issues, just on party affiliation."

 

[Koroz]

That is true, but you did claim that I was a strict party liner who doesn't vote on issues, just on party affiliation. That would be incorrect and false.

"because you are a strict party liner who doesn't vote on issues, just on party affiliation."

and I stand by that "assumption" I can't call it fact because the truth is I don't know your voting history, but going on your post history its very apparent to me that even if the Democrats were to pass on the "perfect" candidate you wouldn't vote for them based on the fact alone they were a democrat. So maybe my assumption was wrong, but your hatred for the Democrat party makes it hard for me to make any other assertion.

 

[greenhead]

and I stand by that "assumption" I can't call it fact because the truth is I don't know your voting history, but going on your post history its very apparent to me that even if the Democrats were to pass on the "perfect" candidate you wouldn't vote for them based on the fact alone they were a democrat. So maybe my assumption was wrong, but your hatred for the Democrat party makes it hard for me to make any other assertion.

I think that the democrats suck, that still doesn't make me a republican, I don't think that they're too great either.

 

[JJScorpio]

My post that you replied to was in response to someone implying that Obama wasn't working on ending the Iraq War. You said I should "read the news" which implies to me that you felt as though I was wrong about my assertion that the war in Iraq is ending. Also, the post I was quoting had nothing to do with Afghanistan, I mean I guess I could start pulling out random wars and skirmished that aren't involved in the conversation but that would be kinda lame... don't you think? And your post may have been to let people know there are bigger priorities, but you directly quoted me and told me to "read the news" which I do on a daily basis.

War = Military involvement.

War does not equal rebuilding the nation and keeping the peace which will go on for years. We sure could use some tax dollars from Cannabis back here in the states to help fund it though, ill tell you that.

Regardless your post has nothing to do with Cannabis Legalization, Laws or Legislation, so you should take your own moderating advice and remove it. As for your son, I wish him the best as I would any parent who has their children going overseas to be involved in these conflicts, my son is only a teen but he is close to the age at which point that might be a concern for me too.

I guess the military plans on doing the bulk of the rebuilding. My son in law will be deployed in Nov for a year as part of the "rebuilding"

If I interpreted your post wrong, accept my apologies. I think people see now why legalization is my second priority, lol.....

 

[iGro4Me]

I guess the military plans on doing the bulk of the rebuilding. My son in law will be deployed in Nov for a year as part of the "rebuilding"

If I interpreted your post wrong, accept my apologies. I think people see now why legalization is my second priority, lol.....

You're not the only one JJ....

Marine Corp, Army, Navy and AF all represented here

Best of luck to him

 

[PazVerdeRadical]

Ending Wars is more important than freeing cannabis, this is not a very just reasoning...
first, ending wars, whether iraq or israel-palestine, is NOT something that can get solved as easily as simply giving cannabis back its inherent freedom.

not only that, freeing cannabis IS ending the war as well, the war against all of us, and that is as important, people also get killed due to the prohibitionist laws, just like people get killed because of idiotic int. policies in iraq or else.

freeing cannabis is a first step to a better world too, just because we cannot make israel and palestine live in peace, does not mean we have to get hung up upon that and ignore all other steps towards a better world we could be taking right now.

peace