Supersized NGB Style Grow Cab
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neat box you have. best of luck on your first serious attempt. the wifey wont mind once she see what you can do inside. if you ever need any help just ask and some one will always try to help around here. that ac is gonna be bumpin here now. summer where you are from is a killer! and also a humidifier helps the curing process slow to a normal pace. check my thread and a few pages back are my curing techniques. i promise you wont be disappointed after having read them, or you know what it would be very neighborly of me if i didnt copy and paste it here for you to check out... be back
here it is sorry its a bit long lol
ok so now for those who wanted to know how i am harvesting for that superior quality in final product. this is not something i came up with, i just read it and applied it and had an instant dramatic improvement in the curing process. i was able to cleanly burn my weed in a bowl after 7-10 days and the smell had zero curing(hay or grassy/planty smell) interferance and the taste was all ready there-(gets progressively better too) and it was dried completly evenly to burn correctly and get you properly high(grey ash in bowl and retained cherry-flame). now that i have rambled about how great it is let me explain.
plenty of info is semi quoted from source but this is how i remembered it. photographic memory for main points hehe
i basically have this 6 step regimine i will be harvesting with.
1. BIG FLUSH- i flushed 14 days straight watering 3 times a day by this point(in coco) but in any medium 10-20 days is nice. honestly the more the better.
2. DRY AIR. last day w/ lights on no water at all. especially in my case where i kept soaked- but basic idea is to allow your plants container to get dry. this does 2 things
a. plants will hang for less time to achieve required dryness.
b. this lowers the RH in the room. Low humidity fools your plant into making more resin(resin helps plant retain moisture) for that one or 2 days chrystals may grow more abundant. shoot for under 10%RH. my area that is average outside. this can be a prob a few steps away unless remidied
3. when harvesting, remember, like flushing, timing is everything.
DARK CHOP
we all know how some growers like to leave their plants in 24+ hrs of darkness, claiming it does all kinds of diff things. one thing it does for sure is help speed the curing process if you chop away root ball b4 plant is exposed to direct light. (of course a proper flush is integral)
explanation: during the dark period, our plants store all of their reserves of starches and sugars in the root zone(food made by plant during day). at the first sign of direct light, these reserves begin to push upward into the plant- creating a longer cure time if harvested in light, because these reserves need more time to break down and give a smooth/ unharsh smoke. in addition to tasting and burning bad, these starches act like fire retardants. these retardants change the chemical make up of the smoke you're ingesting. this means the thc, cannabinol, cannabidoil, and other active cannabinoids cant burn at the perfect temp to get you properly high because they havent properly converted to their psycoactive forms.this is why fresh MJ is generally weaker than properly dried and cured buds. removing plant from rootball b4 the plant is able to uptake these last reserves saves this time. i also notice that this harvest i had zero hay or curing smell on strains that had always had it right away (goes away always)- only goodness!
4. manicure buds on branches. i did this for 2 reasons
a. i hate manicuring 2 times one at chop and one for jars, so i find this saves 1 step and i already have all the tools out
b. remove as mush moisture as possable. i want the moisture to even out between the buds and stems asap, and to much excess leaf can slow this down, and i am intentionally slowing down the drying in the next step already. no need to have 2 slowing factors imo
5. this is more a pro tip i picked up reading.
HANG DRY in 70F, 40-55%RH. this is where i could have a prob in my area. i have to use a humidifier unless weather permits. this slows the hang dry process to 4-7 days. this actually locks in aroma and flavour. if you dry to fast, you lose smell and taste, actually if you over dry, you can lock in the starches and sugars that are curing out and no matter what smoke will be harsh to plain nasty. when the thinnest stems start to crack, i remove from branches and do and cleaning of the buds i missed or ignored.
6. jar your buds in an airtight container and now you want dry as hell air. you want to burp your jar 5-6 times a day 10 min a time. it sounds like a pain, but it is easily fit around my day in passing. we all know that this sweats our buds to an even moisture from inside out. this is important. jars must be opened often to exchange moist air for dry air or molding will occur eventually because there is still moisture in the inner stems.
if the weed is not properly evenly dry, the quality of the high will be hindered. weed has to burn at a certain temp as mentioned earlier. i take a mid size nug and break away the bud down to the inner stem, if it cracks with lil pressure, it is dry. at this point constant burping of the jar is unnecesary. hopefully your nugs still feel sticky and not crispy crumbly dry. if over dry something went wrong somewhere.
7. enjoy the awesome flavour and great high.
i have tried a few diff techniques now, and this harvest was off da chain with taste- smell- potency. i now know for sure that quik drying and early smoking is a waste of my hard work. the high isnt there yet and flavor is very minimal still. smell is not peaked either. smoke 2x as much and enjoy it 1/2 as much.... doesnt make sence at all. this lets me stretch the harvest IMO due to higher quality product... i use less at a time for the desired effect.
to boot i have had 5 people not including myself who have commented on the increased quality all across the board. that is my own convincing proof and i would hate to dissapoint with future PEPSI challanges. i will do it like this til i experiment and surpass this approach, if even possable
well i hope that makes sence to yall and hope it was helpful to anyone out there. it has changed my game for the better. thats all i could ask for and i hope others try with experimantal plant or something if i sound crazy... find out for your self!
patience is key and these methods speed up the curing to a non painful wait. i know first hand what overdrying leads to-shitty weed that was once really nice, and i have smoked it to soon and blown through reserves to fast. i wont be going there again if i can help it!
thanks guys
and
Merry Christmas! !Feliz Navidad! Happy Hanaukka! Happy Quanza! whatever that is lol
Sir
ok so now for those who wanted to know how i am harvesting for that superior quality in final product. this is not something i came up with, i just read it and applied it and had an instant dramatic improvement in the curing process. i was able to cleanly burn my weed in a bowl after 7-10 days and the smell had zero curing(hay or grassy/planty smell) interferance and the taste was all ready there-(gets progressively better too) and it was dried completly evenly to burn correctly and get you properly high(grey ash in bowl and retained cherry-flame). now that i have rambled about how great it is let me explain.
plenty of info is semi quoted from source but this is how i remembered it. photographic memory for main points hehe
i basically have this 6 step regimine i will be harvesting with.
1. BIG FLUSH- i flushed 14 days straight watering 3 times a day by this point(in coco) but in any medium 10-20 days is nice. honestly the more the better.
2. DRY AIR. last day w/ lights on no water at all. especially in my case where i kept soaked- but basic idea is to allow your plants container to get dry. this does 2 things
a. plants will hang for less time to achieve required dryness.
b. this lowers the RH in the room. Low humidity fools your plant into making more resin(resin helps plant retain moisture) for that one or 2 days chrystals may grow more abundant. shoot for under 10%RH. my area that is average outside. this can be a prob a few steps away unless remidied
3. when harvesting, remember, like flushing, timing is everything.
DARK CHOP
we all know how some growers like to leave their plants in 24+ hrs of darkness, claiming it does all kinds of diff things. one thing it does for sure is help speed the curing process if you chop away root ball b4 plant is exposed to direct light. (of course a proper flush is integral)
explanation: during the dark period, our plants store all of their reserves of starches and sugars in the root zone(food made by plant during day). at the first sign of direct light, these reserves begin to push upward into the plant- creating a longer cure time if harvested in light, because these reserves need more time to break down and give a smooth/ unharsh smoke. in addition to tasting and burning bad, these starches act like fire retardants. these retardants change the chemical make up of the smoke you're ingesting. this means the thc, cannabinol, cannabidoil, and other active cannabinoids cant burn at the perfect temp to get you properly high because they havent properly converted to their psycoactive forms.this is why fresh MJ is generally weaker than properly dried and cured buds. removing plant from rootball b4 the plant is able to uptake these last reserves saves this time. i also notice that this harvest i had zero hay or curing smell on strains that had always had it right away (goes away always)- only goodness!
4. manicure buds on branches. i did this for 2 reasons
a. i hate manicuring 2 times one at chop and one for jars, so i find this saves 1 step and i already have all the tools out
b. remove as mush moisture as possable. i want the moisture to even out between the buds and stems asap, and to much excess leaf can slow this down, and i am intentionally slowing down the drying in the next step already. no need to have 2 slowing factors imo
5. this is more a pro tip i picked up reading.
HANG DRY in 70F, 40-55%RH. this is where i could have a prob in my area. i have to use a humidifier unless weather permits. this slows the hang dry process to 4-7 days. this actually locks in aroma and flavour. if you dry to fast, you lose smell and taste, actually if you over dry, you can lock in the starches and sugars that are curing out and no matter what smoke will be harsh to plain nasty. when the thinnest stems start to crack, i remove from branches and do and cleaning of the buds i missed or ignored.
6. jar your buds in an airtight container and now you want dry as hell air. you want to burp your jar 5-6 times a day 10 min a time. it sounds like a pain, but it is easily fit around my day in passing. we all know that this sweats our buds to an even moisture from inside out. this is important. jars must be opened often to exchange moist air for dry air or molding will occur eventually because there is still moisture in the inner stems.
if the weed is not properly evenly dry, the quality of the high will be hindered. weed has to burn at a certain temp as mentioned earlier. i take a mid size nug and break away the bud down to the inner stem, if it cracks with lil pressure, it is dry. at this point constant burping of the jar is unnecesary. hopefully your nugs still feel sticky and not crispy crumbly dry. if over dry something went wrong somewhere.
7. enjoy the awesome flavour and great high.
i have tried a few diff techniques now, and this harvest was off da chain with taste- smell- potency. i now know for sure that quik drying and early smoking is a waste of my hard work. the high isnt there yet and flavor is very minimal still. smell is not peaked either. smoke 2x as much and enjoy it 1/2 as much.... doesnt make sence at all. this lets me stretch the harvest IMO due to higher quality product... i use less at a time for the desired effect.
to boot i have had 5 people not including myself who have commented on the increased quality all across the board. that is my own convincing proof and i would hate to dissapoint with future PEPSI challanges. i will do it like this til i experiment and surpass this approach, if even possable
well i hope that makes sence to yall and hope it was helpful to anyone out there. it has changed my game for the better. thats all i could ask for and i hope others try with experimantal plant or something if i sound crazy... find out for your self!
patience is key and these methods speed up the curing to a non painful wait. i know first hand what overdrying leads to-shitty weed that was once really nice, and i have smoked it to soon and blown through reserves to fast. i wont be going there again if i can help it!
thanks guys
and
Merry Christmas! !Feliz Navidad! Happy Hanaukka! Happy Quanza! whatever that is lol
Sir
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sweet replies !! THANK YOU!
sirsmoke, thanks for ur curing 6 step program, i'll be giving it a try this time a round.
Its so hott here that we've already broke yearly Highest Temps, (100F), n its only may o(X_x)o 3 more months of this beast monster they call SUMMER. LoL might have to get 2nd A/c unit..i hope to just get thru this summer! crosses my fingers.
exploziv, HaHa ya it is pretty tiny, i wanted to go bigger but the wife said no way 7x7x3FT. is big enough. lol i was going to go 9x9x4FT oh wellz maybe the next house. Thanks for the Luck Going to Need it.
sirsmoke, thanks for ur curing 6 step program, i'll be giving it a try this time a round.
Its so hott here that we've already broke yearly Highest Temps, (100F), n its only may o(X_x)o 3 more months of this beast monster they call SUMMER. LoL might have to get 2nd A/c unit..i hope to just get thru this summer! crosses my fingers.
exploziv, HaHa ya it is pretty tiny, i wanted to go bigger but the wife said no way 7x7x3FT. is big enough. lol i was going to go 9x9x4FT oh wellz maybe the next house. Thanks for the Luck Going to Need it.
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A little quick update of the progress i've made in the recent nite... put up some mylar, light proofed with cut up black bed sheets (double layer) hooked up all the equipment all running good, just need to do some finish up touches n hang tha last door, the its full Grow Speed Ahead!!! Finally, now to really see how all this hard work is going to pay off !! anywayz tha pics
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2 week Chaos In the Desert w/ temps SOaring!
2 week Chaos In the Desert w/ temps SOaring!
So its been chaos the last 2 weeks, i moved my clones over to flower (12/12) n two of them went hermie o(>.<)o so in my last ditch attempt to keep my bud numbers high i thru 4 x-mother plants into the flower side (4clones n 4 x-mums) n kept two moms in veg. Living in the Desert Sucks A Big one when trying to keep temps. in check even with Co2 added to the mix its pretty hott, n humidity very very low,n lights on only at nighttime. been adding frozen gallon jugs into the box every 12hours to add some moisture n coolness in the air seems to help some. plants lookin great, double in size over a short two weeks lil hairy buds showing on top n they are some thirsty thirsty biotches. seems about every other day i'm watering or topping off. LoL my guess is this comes from the hott temps. its cooling itself by drinking a gallon a day. LoL its CraZy!! will post some pics tonight when lights come on! Till then Grow Safe! Be Safe!
2 week Chaos In the Desert w/ temps SOaring!
So its been chaos the last 2 weeks, i moved my clones over to flower (12/12) n two of them went hermie o(>.<)o so in my last ditch attempt to keep my bud numbers high i thru 4 x-mother plants into the flower side (4clones n 4 x-mums) n kept two moms in veg. Living in the Desert Sucks A Big one when trying to keep temps. in check even with Co2 added to the mix its pretty hott, n humidity very very low,n lights on only at nighttime. been adding frozen gallon jugs into the box every 12hours to add some moisture n coolness in the air seems to help some. plants lookin great, double in size over a short two weeks lil hairy buds showing on top n they are some thirsty thirsty biotches. seems about every other day i'm watering or topping off. LoL my guess is this comes from the hott temps. its cooling itself by drinking a gallon a day. LoL its CraZy!! will post some pics tonight when lights come on! Till then Grow Safe! Be Safe!
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so should i trim some of the lower leaves back or let them be???, seems awfully crowded, not sure on how far to cut back on the leaves or what not to cut...how do you pros do it? any help is much appreciated !
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n when do you pros introduce ur Co2? i was thinkin of waitin till like week 3 or 4 to turn on my tank. or is it best all the way thru???
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looking real good bro!
looking real good bro!
I love the NGB Cabinet built one for myself as well but it's small
39 1/4"W x 39 1/4"H x 20"D
I'll be watching this one!
looking real good bro!
I love the NGB Cabinet built one for myself as well but it's small
39 1/4"W x 39 1/4"H x 20"D
I'll be watching this one!
