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ddrew

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two accounts of death blows from two different neighbors:

the first, when we were kids, this big ass mean german shepard charged at a buddy/neighbor of mine who was putting his roller skates on; his reaction was to nerviously swing at the dog with one of his skates, connected a punch not too hard on the dogs nose, the dog dropped dead after impact, fact.

the second, another neighbor, while parking his expensive truck in the street outside his business about 5am, was approached by a man who tried to rob him with a small pocket knife, my neighbor reacted fast and punched the guy in the face, guy dropped to the floor, and died a few hours later because of brain damage.

peace

Well, apparently where your from, everyone can throw death blows, even the kids, where I'm from, a place I like to call the real world, it's not happening
 

PazVerdeRadical

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Well, apparently where your from, everyone can throw death blows, even the kids, where I'm from, a place I like to call the real world, it's not happening

so according to you and your real world, people cannot die if they receive a blow in the wrong way? both stories related are fact, whether you like it or not, I know this to be true though, you don't.

so when the indian goal keeper punched in the face the brazilian foward in that infamous game in india where the brazilian foward died, it did not really happen because it is not in "your real world", uh? I should have known lol...
 

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Pshhht Mike Brown would have bruce lee tapping out in the first round, no wa bruce would be able to hang in modern MMA, totally different era apples to oranges
 

PazVerdeRadical

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when we start to judge fighters by their appearence is when we start to get our asses handed back to us.

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In his weight class he would wear the belt for sure , he would have to change his style but he was a very smart dude and it wouldnt be a problem . The thing you guys who talk about the enternal bleeding punches yada yada ....Im pretty damn sure it wouldnt be allowed hahahahaha .......BRING BACK THE FISH HOOKS!!! hhahahaha
 

ddrew

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so according to you and your real world, people cannot die if they receive a blow in the wrong way? both stories related are fact, whether you like it or not, I know this to be true though, you don't.

so when the indian goal keeper punched in the face the brazilian foward in that infamous game in india where the brazilian foward died, it did not really happen because it is not in "your real world", uh? I should have known lol...

Paz, read a little before you post, no one is talking about accidentally killing someone with a strike, which is exactly what happened in all 3 cases you cited, I'm talking about the so called "masters" being able to intentionally deliver a death blow to anyone at anytime, regardless of that persons skill level, accidents like your talking about happen everyday, big deal, totally different thing. Intentional death blows against skilled, prepared opponents do not.
 

osirica420

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Paz, read a little before you post, no one is talking about accidentally killing someone with a strike, which is exactly what happened in all 3 cases you cited, I'm talking about the so called "masters" being able to intentionally deliver a death blow to anyone at anytime, regardless of that persons skill level, accidents like your talking about happen everyday, big deal, totally different thing. Intentional death blows against skilled, prepared opponents do not.

Death blows are real, there is a documentary about it..
I will post it if i find it online..
 

ddrew

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Death blows are real, there is a documentary about it..
I will post it if i find it online..

O, I'm with you on the fact that there is such a thing as a death blow, my point is only that IMO it would be next to impossible to get off on a skilled guarded opponet.

I'm sure a true Master could jack any number of regular guys off the street and probably kill them in a few blows.

If you can fiind a link I really would be interested in seeing it.
 

PazVerdeRadical

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Paz, read a little before you post, no one is talking about accidentally killing someone with a strike, which is exactly what happened in all 3 cases you cited, I'm talking about the so called "masters" being able to intentionally deliver a death blow to anyone at anytime, regardless of that persons skill level, accidents like your talking about happen everyday, big deal, totally different thing. Intentional death blows against skilled, prepared opponents do not.


come on man... if you admit that "accidents like your talking about happen everyday, big deal" then, how come a skilled person cannot deliver a death blow to another skilled person?

a chain is a strong as its weakest link.

paz.
 

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come on man... if you admit that "accidents like your talking about happen everyday, big deal" then, how come a skilled person cannot deliver a death blow to another skilled person?

a chain is a strong as its weakest link.

paz.

They can attempt to to deliver it, that is where the skill of there opponent comes into play, for almost all moves there are counters, all you MA guys know this already, and for the moves that are hard to counter, there are ways to defend against it if you have an idea that it may be coming, again, this is what separates the skilled from unskilled, the skilled opponent expects such things and prepares accordingly, this is why I feel it would be hard to get off on them.

And please, if someone can find a link to death blows that we can all look at, I think that would make debating there effectiveness a lot easier.

And the accidents are just that, freak accidents, one in a million, to be able to line that stuff up when your trying is a different deal altogether
 

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Some of the most devestating strikes leave you wide open if you miss.
I'm sure you guys have seen someone throw a big looping knockout right hand with their feet planted, crushing punch, if it lands right your going down, but I've seen many times where they miss with it and their head is left dangerously exposed and they end up getting countered and knocked out instead.
 

PazVerdeRadical

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And the accidents are just that, freak accidents, one in a million, to be able to line that stuff up when your trying is a different deal altogether


Ok, you have me confused with your stance on accidents, are they one in a million or do "accidents like your talking about happen everyday, big deal" ?

a death blow does not necessarily kill because of brute force... but because it lands on an specific bodily area that if affected in certain ways, can leave a body lifeless.
 

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It's real fighting in the context that they are really going at each other as hard as the can within the boundaries of the rules.

In the real life big John McCarthy doesn't come running up and take a point away from you if you kick someone in the head while their down.
So yes, I understand what your saying and agree with it somewhat.
 

ddrew

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Ok, you have me confused with your stance on accidents, are they one in a million or do "accidents like your talking about happen everyday, big deal" ?

a death blow does not necessarily kill because of brute force... but because it lands on an specific bodily area that if affected in certain ways, can leave a body lifeless.

Ok, I think you know what I mean, but lets pretend you don't.

One in a million happens everyday somewhere on a planet of almost 7 billion(or is it more)people.
What is the stat? something like 1 person every hour in the USA alone dies in an alcohol related car accident, but it is still a one in a million chance that you will die in one. Alright? Follow me now?
 

osirica420

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1 - They favor people with grappling practice. They do this in two ways. The first is they require gloves for everybody. Now don't get me wrong, I think gloves are certainly a good idea, but if you are a striker it's a lot harder to put somebody on the ground when you're punching through a padded glove. Additionally they rule a bunch of strikes illegal: eye gouges, throat attacks, etc. Again I think these are necessary rules, but if your game is striking a big part of your strategy is to use these weak points. If you can't then you're being forced to have a disadvantage.

2 - They also put chinese (Chin Na) grappling at a disadvantage. You can't do any manipulation of 'small joints', which is a major part of Chinese grappling.

Also, if you look back in the day you'll see that many CMA did participate in MMA outside the US. From what I understand Lee Koon Hung and Tat-Mao Wong both dominated Southeast Asian MMA: the rules in these competitions were less slighted against CMA.
 
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