Going after the bastards that have worked against us for so long ?

[9Lives]

Let's say..Marijuana will be legal in the next 20 years. I think it is a pretty reasonable expectation. How do you feel about the people who have worked against legalization..How should they be treated once this happens ?

I seriously hope we are not too drunk (or high?) from victory that we forget the souless demagogs! YOUR THOUGHTS ?


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[slappyjack]

There are plenty of people "working against us" right here on ICmag.

I think we should just let them wallow in their depression because they're too short sighted, selfish and greedy to even consider going legit.

I have yet to hear a single black market commercial grower say they would like cannabis legal. IMO that in itself is a good reason to make it legal.

 

[sunwukong]

Well, seeing that these idiots have locked away innocent people, put them in harms way, and have lied to the american public for the better part of a hundred years, alll for the sake of profit, for one hope we rip them open, and leave their lying worthless carcasses on the side of the road. True justice would allow those put in jail by these policy makers to decide their fate. They are in power now. ARE THEY COMPASSIONTE TO MEDICAL OR RECREATIONAL USERS? No they are not, so f**** them. You won't see me crying if the crimes against humanity catch up with these war waging fear mongers. There is a time for restraint and this ain't one of them. Put them in jail or make them work on a cannabis farm with no pay. Death to fatcats.

 

[Burt]

congress could sure use an enema purging thats for sure

 

[bongoie]

2 wrongs dont make a right . let them get on with it , they obviously have a problem in the first place . have to say it is totally irrational that u can go down for herbs tho . thats defo wrong . bring legalisation on . bring it on .

 

[ddrew]

Follow them everywhere with your newly legal weed and bong and blow hits in there face all day.

 

[richyrich]

Follow them everywhere with your newly legal weed and bong and blow hits in there face all day.

lol

 

[Hydro-Soil]

How do you feel about the people who have worked against legalization..How should they be treated once this happens ?

Disclaimer: I have not read the thread Any duplicate posts like mine are happy coincidences and should be taken as straight truth.

These people are a product of ignorance. They only have this stance because they firmly believe the lies that have been told to them.


I personally believe this country has gotten too far away from it's original view on tolerance.

I'd leave them alone. If they are that adamant about information they have never bothered to look into themselves, their lives are already messed up in so many other ways. Anything we can do to them would be like throwing a shot of alcohol on a warehouse fire.

 

[Pythagllio]

Let's get it relegalized first, eh? But you can expect these people won't go away. Just look at how they keep trying to get Holland to go back to prohibition despite their successes.

 

[FreezerBoy]

Let's say..Marijuana will be legal in the next 20 years. I think it is a pretty reasonable expectation. How do you feel about the people who have worked against legalization.

That's what we said in the 60s. And the 80's. We'll be saying it in 2020, too. Don't hold your breath.

 

[Pythagllio]

I'm holding my breath just a little. Perhaps this is just an isolated pocket of hope, but things are going along at a clip I've never witnessed. How many states have pending MMJ bills in front of their states legislatures currently? Let's list: PA, MD, NJ, NY, NH, MN, OH. Did I miss any? Decrimmed in MA, proposed decim in CT, penalties lessened in ME. Arnold does a 180 and proposes 'discussion'...all in the last year. In my best Ben Stein voice all I can say is "Wow". Now if we can just keep Ethan Nadelman from getting caught doing lines at the White House...

Pardon this old man if he holds out hope that we can finally break the camel's back. On 7/1/09 it'll be 32 years since my first date with Mary Jane and someday I'd like the bullshit to stop. Don't for a second think that bullshit can be perpetuated forever.

 

[bongoie]

u got to live in hope but freezer boy's not lying there . its countries like portugal that r legalising it http://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?t=121250

 

[ureapwhatusow]

There are plenty of people "working against us" right here on ICmag.

I think it is a thread targeted against the people who started prohabition

I think we should just let them wallow in their depression because they're too short sighted, selfish and greedy to even consider going legit.

I dont get this, 99.9% of commercial growers want to be legal medical providers.

I myself think legalization is dangerous to the economy in comparison to decriminalization. I also have many apprehensions letting the same people who endorsed prohabition.

I am a staunch supported of weed being free and accessible to everyday people wihtout fear of persecution and prosecution.

now while I am a medical user and not a commercial grower perhaps I shouldn't speak for the commercial guys but ive met and spoke to enough to know that saying a majority of commercial growers don't want legalization is not only a bad assumption its flat out wrong

a quick example would be www.letuspaytaxes.com is a public proposal by commercial growers in california to pay taxes to the sum of 1 billion per year

I have yet to hear a single black market commercial grower say they would like cannabis legal. IMO that in itself is a good reason to make it legal.

one again not only are you wrong, reference the link above, but you are taking a thread aimed at politicians who enforced prohibition and turned it into slander against other growers

To me this is people working against each other right there

how you can justify hating on growers of the weed, illegal or otherwise, is beyond me

 

[Pythagllio]

If a commercial grower doesn't want legalization he's a short sighted fool. Any commercial grower worth his salt would be set free, expand his operation, and make a hell of a lot more money in a legal environment. Oh, and not worry about ending up behind bars to boot.

Now don't get me wrong, I'm sure there are plenty of idiot commercial growers who can't see the forest for the trees.

 

[9Lives]

That's what we said in the 60s. And the 80's. Well be saying it in 2020, too. Don't hold your breath.

omg....''WHAT IF!'' Kind of no point talking over a ''WHAT IF'' scenario if you loose the ''WHAT IF''

I am well aware of that fact..

 

[Mr. Tony]

If a commercial grower doesn't want legalization he's a short sighted fool. Any commercial grower worth his salt would be set free, expand his operation, and make a hell of a lot more money in a legal environment. Oh, and not worry about ending up behind bars to boot.

Now don't get me wrong, I'm sure there are plenty of idiot commercial growers who can't see the forest for the trees.

Are you even familiar with the massive taxes and fees that comes with a large legal op ( if thats the way it goes)

It would have a major cut in their bottom line.

 

[Hydro-Soil]

Are you even familiar with the massive taxes and fees that comes with a large legal op ( if thats the way it goes)

It would have a major cut in their bottom line.

ALL change causes upset, you either roll with it or you die. It's been like that for centuries.

The issue here is that the commercial croppers have the skills and, if they're smart, they'll have the money set aside too. Not having to hide anything DRASTICALLY reduces cost and restrictions.

Licensing, taxes? WTF do you think a lettuce or tomato farmer does? Minor issues compared to the freedom of being able to grow unrestricted.

Stop thinking within the confines of prohibition.....

 

[Tokin_Jo]

Can't wait, Legalization means $$$ for many of us. Look at the price per zip in holland at the coffee shops and its near legal. Expect prices to still be over $100 zip. Imagine all the closet smokers to supply, coffee shops needing our stuff. Demand will be high and at first and supply low. We could easily make 65k a month to start. It depends what position your in. Some of us have been growing for many years and have aquired alot of equipment over the years. Hydroshop owners would make a killing.

 

[ureapwhatusow]

Can't wait, Legalization means $$$ for many of us. Look at the price per zip in holland at the coffee shops and its near legal. Expect prices to still be over $100 zip. Imagine all the closet smokers to supply, coffee shops needing our stuff. Demand will be high and at first and supply low. We could easily make 65k a month to start. It depends what position your in. Some of us have been growing for many years and have aquired alot of equipment over the years. Hydroshop owners would make a killing.

then everything will collapse as those with capital drop the bottom line by employing superior technologies using their capital reserves

we are leveling the playing field to their advantage in our effort to gain freedom

it will be like the mom and pop video stores when blockbuster came around

I think we deserve to grow weed wihtout prosecution and wihtout government burdening the income stream by dipping in.

I think it needs to remains a financial vehicle to the middle and lower classes and i dont think we should have to pay to keep it that way.

I dont have to pay for my right to bear arms I dont want to pay for my right to grow a plant

 

[Pops]

Actually, "legalization" will probably not stop the underground production of cannabis. The only way that politicians will legalize pot is if they can tax the hell out of it. they are currently trying to raise the taxes on alcohol and have already raised the taxes on tobacco. Here in cali, I pay $36 for a carton of generic cigs. Tax accounts for $18 of that. the carton only costs about $5-6 from the manufacturer, making cigarettes one of the most heavily taxes substances in the world.

Politicians here in California have proposed a $50 per ounce tax on pot. By the time they are through, it will probably be double that. The higher the tax, the more likely that underground commercial growers will still produce and sell their product. Only problem is that now they will also be charged with tons of tax evasion charges along with all the other bullshit charges.