is california really "all that" for grower's?

[BurmeseDragon]

I have never been to Cali, but have talked with people that have lived with family there, grown medical with their family and friends.....as well as simply commercial.

California seems friendlier, but honestly living in a state were nobody talks about growing really gives more of a special sense to it. There is more freedom in the way that cali doesn't offer, since there isn't a lot of competition. I would bet cali would be an interesting place to run a commercial operation if you had the transport routes planned out as your domain out of state.

If people are smart they can grow a lot and feel really safe in another state, it is all about the sense of security. Even in Cali I am sure you can get a lot of time in prison, especially with a three strikes law.

In Cali everyone grows weed or knows someone who does, probably a family member. In my state which is not that harsh, hardly anyone knows anyone that actually seriously grows ganja. And when someone is the harvest doesn't last long, so it is a good place to have a secret head stash garden......so you never run out. The DEA is not up to speed in a state like mine, they are used to ghetto gangster trash........in fact that is what the DEA is here.

The worst part about cali, is sure they have medical MJ and salvia laws.....but then you get popped for shroom spores and your doing life. If you move there with a felony already, maybe even a violent felony that didn't harm a person but some property damage is considered violent............the other interests can land you in prison for some harsh life reflection.

My state sucks, you get out of prison; mess up and you have to do half of your time all over again.........and that doesn't include getting out of prison early in the first place. So I don't sell drugs and don't need to, but boy I just dream about producing anything in the world that exists that I want for myself......all day long.

 

[smurfin'herb]

That damn marijuana inc. show has made 1000's of inexperienced greedy people with money move to cali to try and grow pot. It just invited a bunch of sloppy newb weed growers to come in and try to produce and sell their wet, premature, unflushed dirt weed. Sad really.

 

[KottonmouthLabs]

Well put my man we dont need any more noobs burnin up good herb with high nutes and spreading spider mites all over

 

[BurmeseDragon]

If anything Cali is worth their history of innovation, something possible anywhere. I think anyplace can be as cool as cali as far as drug scene goes. But the land is impossible to duplicate, but nature can be like anything if you get lost in here enough.

 

[Grendelkhan]

California sucks. The people are terrible and the climate is the suck too. I am not sure how anyone could stand living there. In fact I would suggest that California is so bad that if you know someone living there you should call them and tell them to move. In addition to that they should take someone or alot of people with them when they move. Everyone should stay far away from California.
Gkhan.

 

[KottonmouthLabs]

We dont have a "cool drug scene here" we have a state thats citizens recognized the need to have medical marijuana for deserving patients not yahoo's who wana drug dealing utopia.

 

[BiG H3rB Tr3E]

are you people fucking retarded? you have no more or less protection in CA then you do in any state. to pick up everything you have and move to area with the highest cost-to-pay ratio simply because of a novelty like "medical marijuana" is RIDICULOUS. california has the lowest costs for mj. thats why so many growers take the risk to move it out east where they can fetch higher prices. PD does not bust grows. they dont have the resources. the only time they have busted grows is usally pure conicidince as they cannot alot the time and manpower for such investigations. this leaves it up to the feds. and they obvious dont have resources to bust everyone, so they have to go after the biggest people. and if you are big enough to get hit by them, then it doesnt really matter about state laws since they will hold you on federal convictions. how many more fucking posts are we going to see about peoples pipe dreams of moving to california and becoming millionares? hell why would you move to such a populated state to live in a fucking crab shack surrounded by 5-0, when you could get a mansion with 40 acres for the same price in less populated state with a much smaller (and underfunded) police force???

ps: 70% of DEA activity takes place in CA. why would you want to move here to sell weed again...?

 

[Hal]

here's a great thread on the subject at hand...

http://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?t=107616

 

[NorCalFor20]

*cough* yes *cough*

i like it here....

its a cool place to live.

i think people are just scared to admit that they like california for the fear that it will be over run, but if you don't like people just move to a rural area there's plenty of room in california for everyone... no one should give up on there dreams because someone on a forum told them it wasn't gonna happen.... people told me the same shit and here I am.... nor cal life is great im never going to live in any other state unless some major changes happen. I don't like breaking the law so I moved to california to be a regular citizen not a "Drug grower" like on the east coast...

 

[NOKUY]

California sucks. The people are terrible and the climate is the suck too. I am not sure how anyone could stand living there. In fact I would suggest that California is so bad that if you know someone living there you should call them and tell them to move. In addition to that they should take someone or alot of people with them when they move. Everyone should stay far away from California.
Gkhan.

lol ...and your "location" is going back to cali....i see where your coming from


anyway for the OP and others there are other states that arent under such a microscope and will practically let u have your way w/ weed.

3 off the top of my head

-Alaska
-Colorado
-Maine (tho i dont know the marginal laws in maine regarding possesion)

....and dont be tricked by wyoming's $1000 dollar fine for ANY amt of cultivation.....look at their mandatory minimums on possesion.

 

[sparkjumper]

How can someone actually think the "end seller" does better than the cultivator lol.No one does better than the grower as it should be of course.The one thing that stands out to me in Cali as being a huge plus is the ability to purchase clones.Thats just unbelievable to someone that lives in florida.Clonemart or clones R' us lol.Its fuckin beautiful

 

[NOKUY]

How can someone actually think the "end seller" does better than the cultivator lol.No one does better than the grower as it should be of course.The one thing that stands out to me in Cali as being a huge plus is the ability to purchase clones.Thats just unbelievable to someone that lives in florida.Clonemart or clones R' us lol.Its fuckin beautiful

in everything ive been thru the grower makes the best bank and contols the market.

keep in mind....im talking grower to consumer w/ no middleman.

ability to purchase clones is of no value to me...i can make clones all day for free from proven plants.

clones are valuable when they are of rare genetics that u might want....like MTF....but i have sources for that shit for free too.

 

[Zeinth]

gold rush...

gold rush...

land is getting cheap....900 collectives...lots of rippoffs...outside grows can be a bust.


no jobs...u need a place to do indoor...goodluck .

 

[Pirate]

An average example. It can be a little more it can be a little less but this is a middle ground example

Grower sells - 1# / $7.50 per gram = $3400.00 for 1 pound average (minus expenses)
Street seller - 454 grams x $20.00 per gram = $9080.00 Its possible to make close to 3 times purchase price. With no over head.


I stand by my comment. The street seller makes the biggest profit has the least expenses and doesn't work 24/7.

Show me the math to prove otherwise.
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[Pirate]

in everything ive been thru the grower makes the best bank and contols the market. keep in mind....im talking grower to consumer w/ no middleman.

True growers don't sell strait to the consumer.

If your growing a single plant in your backyard and sell grams to your friends........Yeah. The grower makes a killing !!

But no big time grower with a brain sells to the consumer. EVER. That's flat out stupid.

There is always a middle man. (Or 2)

 

[NOKUY]

An average example. It can be a little more it can be a little less but this is a middle ground example

Grower sells - 1# / $7.50 per gram = $3400.00 for 1 pound average (minus expenses)
Street seller - 454 grams x $20.00 per gram = $9080.00 Its possible to make close to 3 times purchase price. With no over head.


I stand by my comment. The street seller makes the biggest profit has the least expenses and doesn't work 24/7.

Show me the math to prove otherwise.
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tru....as most growers wont sell by the gram.....i never have anyway.


i'd give away a gram here and there, just to get the 100 quat/400 zip the next day on 'em.

 

[Pirate]

I've given away many samples.

Gotta get em hooked on my pot...........like a pimp dope pushing drug dealer.

But on a side note:
I can tell ya right now...........Nobody knows who I am except 1 person. And he don't even know where I live.
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[whiterabbit9]

An average example. It can be a little more it can be a little less but this is a middle ground example

Grower sells - 1# / $7.50 per gram = $3400.00 for 1 pound average (minus expenses)
Street seller - 454 grams x $20.00 per gram = $9080.00 Its possible to make close to 3 times purchase price. With no over head.


I stand by my comment. The street seller makes the biggest profit has the least expenses and doesn't work 24/7.

Show me the math to prove otherwise.
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you are definitively right, he does take the most risks tough

here grams of medical is 15$ a g

 

[Pirate]

Yeah. I mentioned the end seller sticks his neck out the most earlier in the thread.

Agreed !!
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[movingtocally]

you are definitively right, he does take the most risks tough

here grams of medical is 15$ a g

I disagree. Weed sells itself. Good weed, at least. If you're intelligent about it it's REALLY hard to get charged with intent to distribute/distribution, and possession laws aren't that bad in most states. Conversely, sooooo much shit can go wrong when growing, you can't ditch the stash like a street dealer can-if the cops come knocking with a warrant, it's game over. Period. And cultivation laws are harsh as fuck in most states.

If I were going into the weed game for money, I would be slinging on a disposable throw away phone with weed stashed in various locals, and hidden digi scale. You've got to fuck up in a big way to go wrong doing that.