Medicann renewal without seeing the quack doctor again?

[phattybudz]

I have documentation from an appointment with an MD for my condition in 2007, but my medicann card expires in a few days and I haven't seen a doctor since because I don't want to waste the time or money; I don't feel like the advice my doctors gave me is very good that's why I got my prescription in the first place...

They say I need ongoing documentation, but will they actually turn down my renewal if I just bring in my old papers and tell them that?

 

[Blue Dot]

Wouldn't medicann's own renewal be all the documentaion they need?

In other words , your primary treating physcian for MMJ is now the medicann doctor, not your old doctor.

Everytime you renew with medicann they should just review your last renewal and if it was good that means there was ongoning documentaion: Their OWN ongoing documentation.

 

[phan]

I agree with Blue Dot. That is how it worked for me, I went to Medicann for a renewal and we talked about how the current treatment (MMJ) was working for me, not about how "percription treatment" was working.

 

[kno3brock]

When I renewed with medicann about a month ago that specifically told me when I called for an appt that i must have current medical proof of my condition. I said I had all the dr's charts and records but they were 1.5 years old, they said it must be with in 12 months.

I had gone the my GP in the last 12 months for allergy meds as I get wicked hayfever in the spring and had mentioned insomnia to my GP, he gave me a prescription for Lunesta or Ambien- cant remember, I use my "other" meds for insomnia. Just got the sleep meds just in case. I brought the prescription to the medicann appt just to be safe. When I met w/ the medicann dr I described my original injury, how well cannibus worked for it, showed him all my older charts and records from various hospitals and clinics and he looked at me and said, "This is all over 12 months old, do you have anything current?" I handed him the bottle of Lunesta and he wrote the req even though my main use of cannibus is pain mgmt from a really bad back injury- with stacks of documentation to proved it.

I've heard that medicann Dr's will write a 3 month temp req until you get in to see another Dr but I havent personally experienced this, only heard it. I think medicann doesnt want to be seen as a script mill- they want to make sure patients are seeing other Drs as well- I dont agree with this because medicann Dr's are Dr's, their req should be enough.

 

[Thundurkel]

Yea I can tell you I've never been to Dr's about my anxiety and depression so I had no medical documentation when I got my rec the other day. BUT! The doctor told me when I come back next year for my renewal I will have to have gone to a doctor about my problems and it's the same with any prescription it's a yearly thing they have to see if anything changes in a year ect... So in other words go see a quack doctor lol there is a list on NORMLs site with doctors that will give you a rec to take back to Medicann...

I don't know why it's like this, I think its kinda dumb cuz I told that Medicann Dr everything that was wrong and filled out the parper work so why do I have to go through more crap??

 

[chubbynugs]

I got my script for the same reason as thundurkel. All i had to give them was the card of the psychologist i talked to. LOL he was a parole officer psychologist too and said i need to look into MMJ as treatment for my problems.

 

[Silver Oak]

Speaking of quack doctors, does anyone know if Medicann will accept a diagnosis from a chiropractor?

 

[kno3brock]

I think they will.

 

[HawaiianPunch]

If you carefully read the fine print of prop 215 and sb 420 you will see that once you have been recommended cannabis for medicine you do NOT have to renew your paperwork every year. Paperwork must be renewed only to enter the actual dispensaries. if I was you, stock up on some nice clones before your paperwork expires and you should be self sufficient from there on out.

 

[phattybudz]

hawaiianpunch wrote: "f you carefully read the fine print of prop 215 and sb 420 you will see that once you have been recommended cannabis for medicine you do NOT have to renew your paperwork every year. Paperwork must be renewed only to enter the actual dispensaries. if I was you, stock up on some nice clones before your paperwork expires and you should be self sufficient from there on out."

I had read that somewhere but I was a little paranoid about it, I mean worst case scenario if the cops bust in I figure it's better to have up-to-date paperwork... that would be great if I didn't have to renew it though, save me $ and fuck dispensaries anyways I've already got my genetics!

I will look around for that info about not needing to renew...thank you all!

 

[opt1c]

yeah... better safe than sorry... but i would rather go to a decent dr and get an 11362.77 (b) exemption that actually treats my condition and isn't just a rubber stamp

 

[FreedomFGHTR]

If you carefully read the fine print of prop 215 and sb 420 you will see that once you have been recommended cannabis for medicine you do NOT have to renew your paperwork every year. Paperwork must be renewed only to enter the actual dispensaries. if I was you, stock up on some nice clones before your paperwork expires and you should be self sufficient from there on out.

Yeah but many doctors and it's medicann standard procedure have expiration dates for their recommendations because of issues with doctors licensing and the California Medical Board. Really it's not related to cannabis but standard physicians stuff.

 

[FreedomFGHTR]

I've heard that medicann Dr's will write a 3 month temp req until you get in to see another Dr but I havent personally experienced this, only heard it. I think medicann doesnt want to be seen as a script mill- they want to make sure patients are seeing other Drs as well- I dont agree with this because medicann Dr's are Dr's, their req should be enough.

It's true. I have been there. And got the 3 month rec and then when I showed more documentation including a diagnoses of Cannabis Dependency they extended me to a year.

 

[kmk420kali]

Your Rec never expires-- However, when I used this in Court, for my son...the DA wanted proof that his condition still was valid-- He was a dick...but ended up dismissing charges in the end--
Here is the Case--
http://www.chrisconrad.com/expert.witness/windus.htm

 

[HawaiianPunch]

Also, your medical records are private. If you get busted, you don't have to disclose your medical prescription status, it just makes sense to do so. A cop can easily say he thinks you forged your paperwork and still take you to jail or write you a citation. It is all personal discretion. This is why it pays not to be arrogant and loud mouthed when dealing with the law.

Lets say you got your recommendation two years ago and never renew it. If you get busted tomorrow you could go back to your doctor, renew your status and have the "Fresh Proof" that you can have your cannabis. Around my way the doctor says he wont write the license for people to have up to 99 plants because then he will probably have to go to court and defend his reasons to write such a prescription. IT IS ALL PERSONAL DISCRETION.

If you are growing more than 12 plants because you believe you have paperwork that says you can, be prepared to jump through many hoops and over many barriers when the shit does hit the fan. Even growing less than 12 plants you can expect a BIG headache if LEO ever catches wind of your situation and wants to F*** with you.

The best thing you can do is be respectful of people at all times. Stand up for your rights. Don't keep paying a quack med provider for paperwork you don't need. If you're going to be going to dispensaries, renew your paperwork. If you're trying to avoid exposure to LEO don't renew! Stay as self sufficient as possible.

 

[HawaiianPunch]

Also, cops can tell you ANYTHING they want. They can tell you they are gonna take you in for murder if they want to. Nothing is for real until they file charges and process you into holding after an arrest. Until stuff gets entered into a computer you still have a lot of wiggle room to get into that officers mind frame and figure out how to paint the picture like you're nothing but pure innocence.

 

[kmk420kali]

If you are growing more than 12 plants because you believe you have paperwork that says you can, be prepared to jump through many hoops and over many barriers when the shit does hit the fan. Even growing less than 12 plants you can expect a BIG headache if LEO ever catches wind of your situation and wants to F*** with you.

A doctor's opinion that the amount in the defendant's possession meets his or her personal medical needs may be proffered at trial.

I know that it is a pain in the ass to go to Court...but I also know this works--

 

[HawaiianPunch]

that's if you can get the doctor to show up to your trial

 

[kmk420kali]

that's if you can get the doctor to show up to your trial

I got mine through Medi-Mar...I think they changed their name now tho-- But I called them when my son got busted, and they were more than helpful!! I talked to their Lawyer, and he told me what to do...and assured me, that tho he didn't think it would come to that (and it didn't) but if needed, the Dr would show up in Court for any of their Patients--

 

[IE2KS_KUSH]

This is a very good thread. I lub it! Medi-Mar is now called MC2, or was last I renewed. And I mean "LAST" period ever. Self sufficient, that's the key. And having a back bone, and a little respect. I like it.