How can I tell if my clone is growing roots?

[repoocbd]

Ok so I fnally got some growth tips I could clone and it's been 8 days since 2 cuts I am trying to clone and 6 days since another 2 I took. I am using the setup you can see in the pics below. I have a full aquarium hood with a piece cut out on the back to allow ventalation and a 15 watt 18 inch fluoro tube that is on 24/7. In the front I have an infrared heat lamp that I use as needed to keep the temp up. I have kept the pete pellets they are planted in moist at all times but now they are starting to turn yellow on the leaf tips and are looking like they might start to die. I appologize for the crappy photos, but my camera is not good at close ups. The two on the left are 6 days old the ones on the right are 8 days. Oh yeah I used rootone on the fresh clippings before I planted them too. So are they dying? Is there anyway to tell if they are taking root at all? I have nothing else I can try to clone the mothers are in full flowering now and looking awesome I can't wait till they are ready to harvest, but if these clones dont take root then I will have to start new plants from a seed again and as we all know it takes allot longer to grow and it is a pain having to identify males before they spew all over the place lol.



the ones on the right 6 days in


the ones on the left 8 days in

 

[GrowMe]

i cant see the pics son

 

[FirstTracks]

clones generally start to yellow on the lower leaves/tips as the roots start forming because the clones are using up energy stored in the leaves to grow roots. Try to wait til you see some roots popping from the sides.

 

[repoocbd]

i cant see the pics son

not sure what to tell you they show up for me on my other com too. Anyone else have trouble seeing the pics?

and Ty FastTracks for the info. Any idea how long it usually takes for the roots to pop out of the peat pellet?

 

[FreezerBoy]

No pics for me.

Clones can take 2 weeks or more. You'll know they've rooted when roots show.

 

[TroubleGuy]

No pics for me either.

I usually just wait til I see new growth before transplanting, cause (for me anyway) when new growth happens in the clone cubes the transplant to a bigger pot doesn't slow it down at all. That's the way I recommend doing it. You don't even need to check the roots, you'll know when it's got solid roots when it starts getting bigger

 

[sparkjumper]

If you use rootech gel after 5 or 6 days you can gently open the cube and see the bright white stem concealed in the cube,this means goody goody all that bright white is rootings.I never experienced anything like rootech after being pretty satisfied with Olivia's for years and years,This stuff is unbelievable

 

[LolaGal]

I think you have your pics so that only your friends can see them! You may need to change that in the controlpanel!

Mist your clones with a little diluted foliar feed. The yellow means they are using up the nutrients that they have in the leaves.

You will know they are rooted when you see this!


Some times they take a little longer to root. Be patient.

 

[ReverendRFB]

Leave em be for a week or better... once you kinda forget about them they grow their roots.

 

[repoocbd]

I think you have your pics so that only your friends can see them! You may need to change that in the controlpanel!

Mist your clones with a little diluted foliar feed. The yellow means they are using up the nutrients that they have in the leaves.

You will know they are rooted when you see this!


Some times they take a little longer to root. Be patient.

Yeah my photos were on private I changed it to public, sorry bout' that.

 

[LolaGal]

Let the clones root in the pucks before planting them. The medium you are using might mess up the pH of the clones. Peat is acidic anyway. I would not grow in the terrarium. Not enough light, and not enough drainage. Pot likes well drained roots. Standing water will rot them and they will keel over and die.

If they were mine I would remove them from the soil and let them root, then put in pots and try some CFLs instead of the light in the aquarium. Infrared heat is not needed. keep them in the 70s in a plastic tote with a lid. hope this helps

 

[repoocbd]

Let the clones root in the pucks before planting them. The medium you are using might mess up the pH of the clones. Peat is acidic anyway. I would not grow in the terrarium. Not enough light, and not enough drainage. Pot likes well drained roots. Standing water will rot them and they will keel over and die.

If they were mine I would remove them from the soil and let them root, then put in pots and try some CFLs instead of the light in the aquarium. Infrared heat is not needed. keep them in the 70s in a plastic tote with a lid. hope this helps

I am following the instructions from this post almost exactly. If this doesn't work I'll have to try something different after growing new plants from seeds and then I guess I will try rock wool it seems to be a popular choice, not quite sure what the pucks are.

 

[Mr. Stinky]

if they dont root for you, theres no reason you cant try again with the ones you are flowering. i dont know where you heard that you would have to start new plants, but its not correct i mainly take flowering clones and let them re-veg as they root. it makes for a branchier clone when they grow out...also makes far better mothers as they have 20 branches from the base.

the air temp is much less important than the base temp. for roots to grow, the medium needs to be in the high 70's. below 75 and you will have poor sucess. also, dont waste money on rockwool, at least not yet. you are using "pucks". the jiffy pellets that grow when watered are pucks. if they dont work for you (they dont do very well for me, and i blame it on the extreme acidity) try a perlite cloner. they are pretty much idiot-proof. i get 100% rooted with wet perlite in small sterilite containers on heat mats, and can clone up to 50 in each one. everyone has a different way, you just have to find the one that works for you. good luck

 

[LolaGal]

This Thread is For Da Peat Puck Freaks link

This Thread is For Da Peat Puck Freaks link

Here's a good thread on cloning in peat pucks or Jiffy Pellets (same thing)

http://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?t=74405


Hope it helps.

 

[FreezerBoy]

dont waste money on rockwool, at least not yet.

Uhhh ... how is 1¢ a plug wasteful? A 6 inch cube is what, $2? That's 216 starter plugs. Rockwool is fast, clean, requires no preparation, transplants to anything and comes so cheap it's practically free.

 

[Mr. Stinky]

or you can use rw...whatever you like. i just wont spend the money on it. 5 dollars for 24 2x2 cubes is pretty expensive as far as im concerned. ive never bought it. im sure it comes cheaper in volume as well, but i was just posting my opinion on the stuff. and i have excellent results with the perlite ill be using in mix anyway=free :smile: i do see some benefit to it if you are growing hydro, but im assuming OP is not since he is using peat pucks now also, theres only one reason people buy RW, really. ive never needed an rw cube for the farm, nor the veggie garden. just a thought

 

[FreezerBoy]

24 cubes for 5$? Try 216 for $2. A penny a cube is hardly expensive; It's barely more than free. There's a wide variety of reasons for Rockwool; Extraordinary low cost is just one of them.

 

[repoocbd]

i dont know where you heard that you would have to start new plants, but its not correct i mainly take flowering clones and let them re-veg as they root. it makes for a branchier clone when they grow out...also makes far better mothers as they have 20 branches from the base.

Well as you can see in this pic my plants don't have any growth tips I can take and I don't want to waste any flowers two of my clones had baby flowers with pistals on them already. So that is why I figured I had to grow new plants. I mean unless I am missing something I have wasted all 6 growth tips I had from the two plants on the left. The one on the right is a different strain and has not been trained well. It grew too fast and now I am wieghing it down to keep it from the lights and it does not have any lower growth tips at all. It is only in week 2 of flowering so it may still yet get them, but I wont keep my fingers crossed

 

[repoocbd]

try a perlite cloner. they are pretty much idiot-proof. i get 100% rooted with wet perlite in small sterilite containers on heat mats, and can clone up to 50 in each one.

One other question if you don't mind. What do you mean by a heat mat? Is it just like the normal heating pads you would use if you had a soar back? I am not sure my medium temp has been high enough and that has probably been the problem. I wanted to follow the idea in that post I linked earlier, but a water bed heating unit is like 50 or 60 dollars and I wasn't willing to pay that so I decided to use a infrared heat lamp I already had. However, I have not been keeping it on all that much since it always feels warm in the tank, but the bottom is covered in moist soil that probaly is not as warm as the air trapped in the aquarium. Anyhow all the info so far has been great so thank you all for the responses.

 

[FreezerBoy]

A root bed of 75º will solve many problems. Heat mats can be found at aquarium/terrarium supplies and garden shops in the $10-$20 range. I wouldn't sit plants directly on top. Use a cookie rack or similar to raise the plants 1/2 inch or more above the pad. Perhaps a lamp underneath would do the same.