Swamps

[Jiu Jitsu Playa]

I have to move my entire picnic after discovering fresh cut vegeation (machete) and following the track directly to a decomposed deer carcass, and then a house 1.5mi away..


so i am using 5 gal grow bags and i am moving them from farmland, to a more swampy setting. water does not go above 3 inches and alot of vegetation growing of the water, it is not stagnant. My question is i am expecting the roots to exit the bottom of the grow bag eventually, so will having my roots come out into the water be an issue?

please send your input grow gods

 

[confused]

my advice is to read the stickies and stop making a post before you use the search function. you have a thread on the exact same topic that is on the second page of this section of the forum. (https://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?t=118383) the stickies pretty much answer everything, trial and error helps with the rest.

to answer this question. roots can grow out the holes in bottom of grow bags. if too wet, it will be a problem.

 

[Hindu Killer]

Lots of good swamp growing stuff in threads....good luck!

 

[Jiu Jitsu Playa]

my advice is to read the stickies and stop making a post before you use the search function. you have a thread on the exact same topic that is on the second page of this section of the forum. (https://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?t=118383) the stickies pretty much answer everything, trial and error helps with the rest.

to answer this question. roots can grow out the holes in bottom of grow bags. if too wet, it will be a problem.

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I am looking for info on people who have grown in swamps, this is common, so i am guessing that the roots will be WET, as swamps usually have water in them.
thanks for your stellar advice and the link to my old post


i still need some answers from swamp experts

 

[confused]

I just hope the information didn't get too old, but here is some stuff I dug up.

https://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?t=44400&highlight=swamp

^thread with 5 pages on info on swamp growing methods/theories

https://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?t=64573&highlight=swamp

^thread on swamp tubes

https://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?t=88368

^thread by silverback on root systems

https://www.icmag.com/ic/search.php?searchid=6786359

^search of the outdoor forum topics filtered for "swamp"

 

[MrMcBean]

Wow kinda sucks with your find.. well you seem to be taking care of it..

and without reading any of those "stellar" posts yet i would almost think its ok.. Well i grew in hydro for a while and im guessing "swap" water would be ok as long as it doesnt stink like sulfur or other non-oxygen bacteria... (only guessing)

Well i personally would not let the bags soak in the water.. those 5gal bags will do like a sponge.

If its only 3 inches of water maybe place some logs and or rocks as a foundation to keep the bags above the waterlevel/off the wet soil. If the roots later decide to grow through that and explore the brine i really dont see a problem.. if there is one tho youll see it

good luck!

 

[Jiu Jitsu Playa]

I just hope the information didn't get too old, but here is some stuff I dug up.

https://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?t=44400&highlight=swamp

^thread with 5 pages on info on swamp growing methods/theories

https://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?t=64573&highlight=swamp

^thread on swamp tubes

https://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?t=88368

^thread by silverback on root systems

https://www.icmag.com/ic/search.php?searchid=6786359

^search of the outdoor forum topics filtered for "swamp"

THANKS BRO.. (bowing like a china man)

 

[MrMcBean]

sure are great threads.. the question is still open if roots will thrive in swamp brine. Id kinda like to know that one myself

 

[still2big]

I have to move my entire picnic after discovering fresh cut vegeation (machete) and following the track directly to a decomposed deer carcass, and then a house 1.5mi away..


so i am using 5 gal grow bags and i am moving them from farmland, to a more swampy setting. water does not go above 3 inches and alot of vegetation growing of the water, it is not stagnant. My question is i am expecting the roots to exit the bottom of the grow bag eventually, so will having my roots come out into the water be an issue?

please send your input grow gods

Jesus sounds like you live down the street from me! Swamp, dead dear lying around...good times..haha

This is my first year in the swamp but from what ive read they say as long as you have 1.5m of dry soil above the water line you are ok and wont get root rot. Now thats just what ive read. Ill be able to tell you more as teh season gets going.

 

[boroboro]

My limited experience in swamps and marshes has been wonderful. The only problems have come when the water level was higher than I expected. I had the soil mix in mounds piled up 1-2 feet above expected water level, ended up about 8" above actual water level. This was too wet, and most of my plants died.

This year I may use containers to allow moving the plants if the water level changes.

Oh, and I'm no grow god -- just a lazy bastard stomping about in the muck. Swamp / marsh grows seem like the perfect set-up for me, as soon as I fine-tune placing the plant and its roots at the proper level above the water.

 

[wisco61]

Don't forget the lime. Swamp water has acidic PH so large quantities of lime are needed to offset this.

So the plants are already started in the 5 gal bags? If so you need to add some lime by dissolving in water and pouring in trying to avoid runoff.

If they aren't started you can just mix it into the soil.

 

[Mr. Stinky]

most swamp water is acidic...but not all. its easy to check.

 

[Jiu Jitsu Playa]

thanks wisco, no worries about the lime, i already had it premixed into the soil as i was going to use a stream that runs to the swamp for fresh water already.

 

[Jiu Jitsu Playa]

still2big, the dead deer carcass was killed and cleaned during the winter. alls that was left was the spine and fur i know that the hunter lives in the house because there were deer feeders in the backyard. i was actually quite impressed with myself i picked up the hunters trail from the previous winter and followed the 6 month old trail to his house 3 miles away. my tracking skillz have greatly improved.. thank you uncle sam

 

[Jiu Jitsu Playa]

again the water level of this swamp area does not reach above 2 inches there are spots that grass is growing above on mounds of dirt with small puddles. the ground itself hsa a shallow water line (2 inches below the topsoil) if you stomp you can drive your boots into the mud

 

[BACKCOUNTRY]

Sounds great! The basic thing to remember in swamp/marsh growing is to provide a bulk of soil above the highest possible water line for your roots to live in, and also to provide a way for the roots to find the water beneath them, and exploit it as they will.

It is also good to avoid swamps/marshes that have a water line that changes more than a foot through the season, this requires more engineering to accomplish.

Good luck! I wish I could do more swamp growing myself!

 

[Jiu Jitsu Playa]

Thanks for all your help BC