what I think is that i wont work unless instead of harvesting your plants on the day you normally would, do it a week later because its the final stages of growth when the bud get some weight, and if you did the think with the wire a week before you normally would harvest, the bads wouldnt geain weight, but some more defense hormones or as it was said in the first post, resin.
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Choking your plants?
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i heard if you shoot your plant close to harvest with a 12 gauge shot gun will stress the hell out of the plant making it grw nice crystals and it will stress the neighbors.
This sounds like girdling which is perfectly valid means to increase fruiting as the agricultural industry does the same thing with fruit trees. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Girdling
oldschool55
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As a professional horticulturist, the scientific reaction marijuana and most plants reacts to certain forms of stress is called the is the Shikimic wound response. I will not attempt to explain the full physiological effects, but the short summary is when plants are stressed, whether through drought, mechanical damage, insects etc, they react in certain ways to fight the stress and defend them selves. Trees invaded by bark beetles secret heavy sap flow to flood or force the beetle out the cambium layer of the plant. Other plants fight drought by developing leave hairs to reflect light, or close the leaves etc.
Marijuana has been shown to react to wound response in certain ways. One of those mechanisms has been through production of resin as a means to provent additional moisture loss during drought. Girdling the plant around the base has the affect of depriving the transport mechanism of the phloem and xylem cells, thereby inducing the wound response. When I was a studying horticulture (graduated 1980) at a major university, I discussed the wound response theory with a professor, just as I also discussed how increased carbon dioxide concentrations caused stomata cells to open thereby increasing the photosynthetic ability of the plant. He confirmed and through experimentation, I confirmed for myself that stressing the plant near the end of flowering increased resin production. The process is no different the what everyone now does of not watering the plant the final week or two before harvest. Same process, that is stressing the plant, causing induction of the wound response.
I encourage growers to experiment rather than unknowingly dismiss proven techniques by other. This is not some story of driving stakes through the trunk etc, (although that is a technique I also heard of). Try it for yourself, either by depriving water the final 2 weeks, stressing by girdling the plant at the soil level etc, you might be surprised.
Marijuana has been shown to react to wound response in certain ways. One of those mechanisms has been through production of resin as a means to provent additional moisture loss during drought. Girdling the plant around the base has the affect of depriving the transport mechanism of the phloem and xylem cells, thereby inducing the wound response. When I was a studying horticulture (graduated 1980) at a major university, I discussed the wound response theory with a professor, just as I also discussed how increased carbon dioxide concentrations caused stomata cells to open thereby increasing the photosynthetic ability of the plant. He confirmed and through experimentation, I confirmed for myself that stressing the plant near the end of flowering increased resin production. The process is no different the what everyone now does of not watering the plant the final week or two before harvest. Same process, that is stressing the plant, causing induction of the wound response.
I encourage growers to experiment rather than unknowingly dismiss proven techniques by other. This is not some story of driving stakes through the trunk etc, (although that is a technique I also heard of). Try it for yourself, either by depriving water the final 2 weeks, stressing by girdling the plant at the soil level etc, you might be surprised.
oldschool55
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CDM:
An excellent explanation for the uneducated. Stress causes the shikimic wound response resulting in physiological and chemical changes in plants. Typically, it is increased resin production as the plant is desperately trying to reproduce before death, just as you noted it does as an annual plant.
An excellent explanation for the uneducated. Stress causes the shikimic wound response resulting in physiological and chemical changes in plants. Typically, it is increased resin production as the plant is desperately trying to reproduce before death, just as you noted it does as an annual plant.
Lots of ego-battling going on instead of the "real deal".
I see it simply like this.
Plants produce THC as defense mechanism. When plant feels he gets attacked, plant puts on defense. By common sense, this implies to me that it does raise the amount of pistils.
As some comparison. Human being feels threatened and pumps out more adrealine to your body. More adrealine than your normal amount.
More THC than plant's normal amount because plant feels threatened. Doesn't seem that far fetched.
I see it simply like this.
Plants produce THC as defense mechanism. When plant feels he gets attacked, plant puts on defense. By common sense, this implies to me that it does raise the amount of pistils.
As some comparison. Human being feels threatened and pumps out more adrealine to your body. More adrealine than your normal amount.
More THC than plant's normal amount because plant feels threatened. Doesn't seem that far fetched.
You are all wrong here, but close to the truth. The technique is called "girdling". I would think it would work and I plan to try it in a few weeks. But not for the reason your father cited. I have been girdling grape vines (I have girdled over 5 million vines) over 45 years so my knowledge comes from experience not from a book or theory. Girdling means to cut a ring around the outer layer of the trunk or the phloem and into the cambium. be careful not to cut too deeply into the xylem layer as that will kill or severly weaken the plant or vine. Water and nutrients are carried down to the roots from the canopy or leaves in this outer layer (phloem/cambium). In grape farming (table grapes only), we do it on certain varieties at Veraison (cell expansion) or the berry softening stage. this cut or girdle causes the water and nutrient to stop at the cut or "girdle" and since these plant juices cannot flow down past the cut in the phloem/cambium layer (until it heals) this extra surge of nutrients and sugars backs up in the upper plant where it enhances or super feeds the fruit or grapes causing them to double in size, color (if they are a colored variety) and to increase sugar. In this case the buds would be fruit and it would, in theory, enhance the buds. In the vineyard, we use a special knife that cuts a clean swatch completely around the trunk in a 1/8, 3/16 or 1/4" ring completely around the trunk. Old timers used to put string in this cut and remove it when it started to heal to keep the cut open a bit longer. Over the years I found that using the string weakened the vines and even caused some to die. If i wanted to girdle twice in a season, I would always make a second smaller fresh cut BELOW the first cut. This would cause the first cut to heal immediately (within a few days) as having 2 open girdles is almost certain death to the vine. I intend to use a small knife or razor with a guide so I will not cut past the phloem layer and leave a ring of about 1/16". These plants recover quickly so I believe it not only can handle the cut, but it will also enhance the weight of the bud. Doing a cut too deep on a plant will kill it. This technique is used on stone fruit (plums etc.) and grapes.
