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2x3x4 320w CFL scrog
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Fluorobuds
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Wow, sure did your homework on this one Rave, looks great. I like how you put the fan on a dimmer switch for speed control, might have to steal that idea from ya! Also, unbelievable luck finding seedlings in a playground, I'd play the lottery more I think you lucky SOB!
Keep it up man, I'll be in the audience with the rest of your crowd here
Keep it up man, I'll be in the audience with the rest of your crowd here
rave420
Member
dude, if you want to coppy the fan idea make sure you use a dimmer for CEILING FANS with SHADED POLES. At least that's the one that worked for me. I tried a plain dimmer switch for lights first, and it did not work at all. You should be able to find them at every hardware store.
eh, i find wild cannabis plants all the time. First, i live in Canada, and around here pretty much everyone keeps a couple of plants in their back yard. It's a small community here, and i talk to a bunch of cops all the time, they could care less weather you got a coupple of plants in your backyard. They say at least you don't have to go and give money to criminals anymore. So i am not supprised to find that stuff growing everywhere
I bet if you keep your eyes open you can find it where you live too!
eh, i find wild cannabis plants all the time. First, i live in Canada, and around here pretty much everyone keeps a couple of plants in their back yard. It's a small community here, and i talk to a bunch of cops all the time, they could care less weather you got a coupple of plants in your backyard. They say at least you don't have to go and give money to criminals anymore. So i am not supprised to find that stuff growing everywhere
I bet if you keep your eyes open you can find it where you live too!
rave420
Member
here is a quick update.
group shot, i still don't have a clue what sex they are, and they are 11 days in. Oh well. They will show me soon enough
here is a little macro of all some branches that are popping up everywhere. I am quite supprised, but the plants look rather healthy
And here is a shoot of the little ball thingy i posted earlier. Can anybody give me some insight?
Cheers,
Rave
group shot, i still don't have a clue what sex they are, and they are 11 days in. Oh well. They will show me soon enough
here is a little macro of all some branches that are popping up everywhere. I am quite supprised, but the plants look rather healthy
And here is a shoot of the little ball thingy i posted earlier. Can anybody give me some insight?
Cheers,
Rave
Debrickashaw
Member
looks like its possible it might split off two hairs maybe? you've got time before you need to pull it anyway
Looks like a male to me. Could be a sterile hermie flower, doubtful though.
rave420
Member
mhh that's what i thought. If that thing doesn't split off any hairs i'll kick it out. But untill now nothing showed any hairs, so i am not too impatient
rave420
Member
Anyway, here is the "sex update". If anybody has any clue if they see a male / female just let me know. help is greatly appreciated.
I fed them molasses / guano / EWC tea yesterday a coupple of hours before the lights turned off, and this morning OMG... Just check the pics, lol.
They have been in 12/12 for 12 days now.
Temp. Day: 77 HI 73 LO
temp. Night: 77 HI 58 LO
During the night the average temps in the box after the lights have cooled off is 58 F. I think that might be too cold and slow bud development.
Call me crazy, but i actually think i can see some calyxes, but no hairs comming out of it. I have not spotted a single hair on any plant. Plus some other plants are starting to show these little ball thing. Might i just be growing a hermie - crop? What are the chances of this? Oh well... here are some pics
I swear there is a calyx at the side. it has the wrapped form and a little slit in it, but no hair growing out of it
here is a better picture of that
And another one of those branches with weird calyxes (what is the plural of calyx?)
Here is the top of one of the untopped plants. Between the leaves there is some weird stuff growing out, i suppose more calyxes (plural?), but again, no hairs on this one either.
Another close-up of some branches without sign of sex
yeah, organics rocks! Before the lights turned off the leaves were still able to perk up without being held back by the screen. And today they can't ever perk up anymore because the stem outgrew the screenI believe i have some rather healthy plants!
Anyway, thanks for dropping in and leaving a comment. Thanks
I fed them molasses / guano / EWC tea yesterday a coupple of hours before the lights turned off, and this morning OMG... Just check the pics, lol.
They have been in 12/12 for 12 days now.
Temp. Day: 77 HI 73 LO
temp. Night: 77 HI 58 LO
During the night the average temps in the box after the lights have cooled off is 58 F. I think that might be too cold and slow bud development.
Call me crazy, but i actually think i can see some calyxes, but no hairs comming out of it. I have not spotted a single hair on any plant. Plus some other plants are starting to show these little ball thing. Might i just be growing a hermie - crop? What are the chances of this? Oh well... here are some pics
I swear there is a calyx at the side. it has the wrapped form and a little slit in it, but no hair growing out of it
here is a better picture of that
And another one of those branches with weird calyxes (what is the plural of calyx?)
Here is the top of one of the untopped plants. Between the leaves there is some weird stuff growing out, i suppose more calyxes (plural?), but again, no hairs on this one either.
Another close-up of some branches without sign of sex
yeah, organics rocks! Before the lights turned off the leaves were still able to perk up without being held back by the screen. And today they can't ever perk up anymore because the stem outgrew the screen
I believe i have some rather healthy plants! Anyway, thanks for dropping in and leaving a comment. Thanks
stanky bud
Member
Lookin good. Little too early to tell the sex. This may sound like a stupid question but what is the purpose of the screen? Does it allow more light to penetrate the lower branches?
And today they can't ever perk up anymore because the stem outgrew the screen
You need to bend that main stem over and keep it under the screen. Once it's bent over, the growth will go sideways and the lower branches will grow up to the screen. That's what Scrogging is all about.
rave420
Member
i abandoned the idea of scrogging when i flipped the switch to 12/12 and gave the plants no time to veg. I was in a hurry to get the cab dialed in, so the screen is pretty much useless. I think it kind of makes the plant more manageable though, since each plant stays in it's own square. Also, for the next proper scrog i'll use a smaller mesh.
I am actually playing with the thought of taking it out completely, but lets wait just a little more.
BTW, i tried bendinng one stem, but as soon as it approaches the 45 degrees it feels like it's ripping and i can feel single strands tearing inside the stem if i keep on bending it. No way i can bend it without breaking it. Of course i could just break it and let the plant recover, i know they will. But i'd rather not, you know what i mean?
I am actually playing with the thought of taking it out completely, but lets wait just a little more.
BTW, i tried bendinng one stem, but as soon as it approaches the 45 degrees it feels like it's ripping and i can feel single strands tearing inside the stem if i keep on bending it. No way i can bend it without breaking it. Of course i could just break it and let the plant recover, i know they will. But i'd rather not, you know what i mean?
JamericanSpliff
Member
sounds like you may want to use some LST. i dont see how people supercrop, you would have to be a seasoned grower not cringe at snapping your baby in half lol
Just squeeze the stem until you feel the fibers cracking. Turn 90 degrees on the stem (same spot) and crush again. Plant will easily bend over without cracking in half.
If you push too hard you CAN break it so it won't repair. If you splint it with a toothpick and some teflon tape, it will grow back together. Try to fix it while it's still 'bleeding' from the original wound.
rave420
Member
thing is i'dn rather not go and break my plant.
That's like saying... I break your leg. It will grow together again of course. So why not do it? For the slim chance of a higher yield? No thanks.
I will scrog/lst the hell out of my plants, but i will not purposely harm the plant. That's against my world view, really. Plus, the seeds were bagseed, most likely from a hermie mom. So i let the plants do their thing. they have another foot to grow before they get too close!
Don't forget the goal of this grow, it's to get the cab dialed in. Once i pulled the last plants out of there i will make some modifications. I am really back-and-forth between scrog and a perpetual SOG, i don't really know yet.
That's like saying... I break your leg. It will grow together again of course. So why not do it? For the slim chance of a higher yield? No thanks.
I will scrog/lst the hell out of my plants, but i will not purposely harm the plant. That's against my world view, really. Plus, the seeds were bagseed, most likely from a hermie mom. So i let the plants do their thing. they have another foot to grow before they get too close!
Don't forget the goal of this grow, it's to get the cab dialed in. Once i pulled the last plants out of there i will make some modifications. I am really back-and-forth between scrog and a perpetual SOG, i don't really know yet.
Check your local laws. Where I'm from, the jail time is measured by total weight. No mention of # of plants. Unless the laws where you're from are based around number of plants, you'll theoretically get a better yield from a perpetual SOG. Since you're taking the time to try to dial in your plants and your containers, seems like you'd benefit more from SOGing many plantlets than SCROGing a few plants.
thoughts.
yes me. I do. this gal right here has SOME exp with a home made bubble cloner.
I have some pix of mine if U want to see 1 of the 100,000 ways ya can build one.
even though there is a seedling in this one which dies 2 days ago it was my fault. but I have had a whole lot of success with cloning in my bubbler cloner.
getting my clones to root was one thing but keeping them alove was a whole nother thing. it worked most of the time.
and I have had 100% success with mine over the past 10 years or so.
I'v even rooted a tomato clone and other flowers also.
well hope this helps a little bit.
I have some pix of mine if U want to see 1 of the 100,000 ways ya can build one.
even though there is a seedling in this one which dies 2 days ago it was my fault. but I have had a whole lot of success with cloning in my bubbler cloner.
getting my clones to root was one thing but keeping them alove was a whole nother thing. it worked most of the time.
and I have had 100% success with mine over the past 10 years or so.
I'v even rooted a tomato clone and other flowers also.
well hope this helps a little bit.
also I wraped some black tarp around it to keep the light out of the water. did this 1 week after these pix taken.
rave420
Member
holly crap, is that a seedling in a spaceship ?
I build my cloner today, VEEEEERY simple. Just took two square Ziploc containers, put a silicone tube on the bottom, hooked it up to an aquarium air pump, poked some holes in there for some smooth bubble action, put the lid on and held one test-clone in place with a piece of foam that i borrowed from my couch lol. I made sure the stem is about 1/4" submerged in the water. Placed another clear ziploc container upside down on top, and voila. See if that baby roots
here is a picture of my construction, it's currently sitting in my mom/veg-chamber.
And here are the three most promissing plants (coincidence that all of them are in the larger pots?), i am almost certain that none of these three will be male. I still see no pistils though. But, i can't spot any weird ball-like growths on them either, so that's a good sign. On some plants more balls popped up, but they don't look a think like male flowers, so i wait for them to develop a bit more before yanking them (or rather, planting them in my yard, since i can't purposely harm a plant)
Here one more closeup
I would say this is a girl, if it wans't for the odd ball that is growing out of some internodes.
Manomanoman... i am scared that ALL my plants have fucked up genes and will turn hermie an me. Ah well, lets see
?I build my cloner today, VEEEEERY simple. Just took two square Ziploc containers, put a silicone tube on the bottom, hooked it up to an aquarium air pump, poked some holes in there for some smooth bubble action, put the lid on and held one test-clone in place with a piece of foam that i borrowed from my couch lol. I made sure the stem is about 1/4" submerged in the water. Placed another clear ziploc container upside down on top, and voila. See if that baby roots
here is a picture of my construction, it's currently sitting in my mom/veg-chamber.
And here are the three most promissing plants (coincidence that all of them are in the larger pots?), i am almost certain that none of these three will be male. I still see no pistils though. But, i can't spot any weird ball-like growths on them either, so that's a good sign. On some plants more balls popped up, but they don't look a think like male flowers, so i wait for them to develop a bit more before yanking them (or rather, planting them in my yard, since i can't purposely harm a plant)
Here one more closeup
I would say this is a girl, if it wans't for the odd ball that is growing out of some internodes.
Manomanoman... i am scared that ALL my plants have fucked up genes and will turn hermie an me. Ah well, lets see
looken super great.
