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Anybody else in fucking SHOCK at the mj discourse right now in the US?

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Every day some mainstream news network has an intellectually serious piece regarding marijuana these days. Just a few years ago it was not even an issue. When a candidate was asked about(well, any candidate outside of CA)it was usually with a corny joke about stoners, some vague statement about teenagers sucking dick for drugs behind dumpsters, and a promise to keep kids safe. Nothing serious.


Nowadays, mainstream people are talking like grown ups about pot on the national level. I talk to some stoners about it and they are kind of wishy washy. I personally never thought it would even get this far in my lifetime.

I still can't get over it: Did I seriously just watch al fucking roker do a marijuana special?


Times are a changin.' Thanks to everyone who is doing their part. This bowl of somewhat moldy but still smokable OG kush is for you.


:joint:
 

zingablack

livin my way the high way
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I kno it's great innit. I missed the al roker toker episode but seen a lot lately. Education is the key
 

med_breeder

Active member
I'm loving it. Everyday almost cnbc rplays Their marijuana inc, and msnbc plays theirs seemingly everyday. It has to help. The more exposure the better. Even if what they are exposed to in part is status qua BS, exposure helps. The economy tanking helps, when other states start to see the $$$$$$ that Cali will be pulling in in taxes, other states will come around.

peace
 

slappyjack

Member
I'm still trying to figure out why this is happening. Obviously Obama has something to do with it because he's the most progressive President we've ever had, but I don't think that's the whole story. Something else is going on.

For now I'm guessing that we're witnessing a "coming out" of cannabis smokers. Fact is, executives and board members smoke too, just like us peasants. :)

I rarely see any anti-cannabis stuff any more, except those stupid ads on TV. The world is pro pot by a huge margin regardless of what the polls say, and obviously the netroots are 99% pro pot. If a polling firm called me and asked if I smoke I'd certainly think twice about telling them the truth. The true number of smokers is probably double what the polls report.

The day cannabis becomes legal will be an amazing day. I can't wait to see how many of my neighbors are growers. :)
 

SuperConductor

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Be greatful, in the UK and most of Europe we are going through reefer madness mk.2 and it's getting worse every day seemingly.
 

iGro4Me

The Hopeful Protagonist
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Don't be lulled into a false sense of security by all the chit-chat.....They have something up there sleeve, call me suspicious.
 

Kush_Master

High Grade Specialist
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Be greatful, in the UK and most of Europe we are going through reefer madness mk.2 and it's getting worse every day seemingly.

Im from germany, 10-15 years ago everyone thought pot was gonna be legal soon.
Now situation is entirely flipped, USA is more progressive and in my country the situation has gotten alot worse. Same in lots of other european countries, switzerland, uk, netherlands....
 

VirginHarvester

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What would be interesting is to have been able to survey the "average" American a couple years ago to find out their views on a variety of levels and conduct the same survey today to see if a different mindset is present. Right now we don't know the effect. For example, I doubt most people in the Southeast care whether or not MJ is decriminalized and that it would still be unpopular in most of those states. Don't get me wrong, talk is good, but I think change is slow to come.
 
"I'm still trying to figure out why this is happening. Obviously Obama has something to do with it because he's the most progressive President we've ever had, but I don't think that's the whole story. Something else is going on."

Hmmm, he's been in the office for 3 months and you think he has something to do with it? I'm sorry, but this "change" has been going on for the last ten years. The people and organizations that have done the hard work over the last decade (ASA, Norml, etc, etc) deserve the credit.

Personally, every single person I know says it should be decriminialized (and most of the people I know are hard core conservative religious types... comes with the territory). There is no point in paying billions of dollars per year to fill prisons with victim-less crime convicts.
 

Lucky 7

Active member
What's changing is the degree of violence Prohibition has brought about. there's a good article on CNN by a setting ivy league Prof. about ending the Drug War.
More peeps were killed in Mexico last year than just about anywhere.

Juarez (across the border from El Paso) is now considered the most dangerous city in the world.

And kidnapping for profit is the new cottage industry in the Southwestern US. It is a by-product of the war.

Hopefully something will be done soon, or it's gonna by the 30's & Al Capone-like violence on American streets, not Mexican.

The aforementioned CNN article abdicates legalizing ALL drugs to bring a stop to the violence. Regulation & taxation are the new rallying points.
 
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WhoMan

Conciousness itself might be changing, IMO. And well it is the big pink rhino in the room they cant miss it. Whoman
 

slappyjack

Member
oldschoolfarmer; said:
Hmmm, he's been in the office for 3 months and you think he has something to do with it? I'm sorry, but this "change" has been going on for the last ten years. The people and organizations that have done the hard work over the last decade (ASA, Norml, etc, etc) deserve the credit.

Yes I do. There has been more mainstream pro-Cannabis programming in the past few months than during the entire history of Mankind. Obviously I give major props to the organized pro-Cannabis groups who have been working tirelessly on the issue.

The entire culture is changing and Obama's election is a big part of that. People are finally rejecting the status quo in huge numbers.
 

motaco

Old School Cottonmouth
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It's all over the news because its a happy distraction from the economy.

Cali is trying to outright legalize and it's a big deal right now. That is why they are all talking about it.

But nothing is going to happen at all. In fact I wouldn't be surprised at all if it got worse.
 

DieselsMMK

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It's all about making money and who profits the most from it..The government needs money and finds possibly legalizing marijuana might get them out of there own imposed crapper? NOW it's alright to smoke it..please
 
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sparkjumper

Its not changing for the best down my way,Florida just increased penalties in July making it so that you better have 24 plants or less in your house if you dont want to go to jail.I still love Fla though..I needed to chill anyway
 

nycdfan042

Its COOL to DROOL!!!!!!
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It's all over the news because its a happy distraction from the economy.

Cali is trying to outright legalize and it's a big deal right now. That is why they are all talking about it.

But nothing is going to happen at all. In fact I wouldn't be surprised at all if it got worse.

yea guys seethrough the smoke and mirrors, dont let wishful thinking ruin your third eye view, i agree with motaco 100% and all the other skeptical mofoes
 

Kinderfeld

Member
Hell yea I am in shock. It may not be a HUGE change to completely legal but we have to take small steps. Old traditions and old politicians are dying...and more educated, diverse, modern people are taking their places with more educated ideas instead of traditions and religious values running our government.

Sure, at a small pace but a pace nonetheless. Yea, this media attention may not be much but it is a small step, it gets people talking and more importantly thinking. I believe there is so much discussion now because people are more apt to questioning their government, and now have the tools to research themselves (internet, online libraries, technology) instead of just 'trusting' what the officials tell them. Just because the government can spill lies over decades doesn't mean the truth won't eventually come out!

Whether it goes down down hill or up from here, which no body really knows, this suggesting of legalization is still a step in the right direction. I am 100% SHOCKED as you are but sadly I see this slow pace as proof its not going to be legal until I am closer to death (and I am in my early 20s) in which case doesn't mean shit to me in the first place... but yay for the next generations for having a smarter gov than me!
 

Strainbrain

Chairman of the Joint Chiefs
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Yeah, pleasant shock for sure. It's certainly something that's hard not to notice at this point, and it's amazing.


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