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Show your good soil roots!

NorCal

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the soil that those moms were transplanted into was new soil, as i dont reuse soil

and i have watered with nematodes before and they seem to be pretty effective

i also try to let em dry out before rewatering

but im pretty speechless as to what it could be, i wish there was something i could just water into the plants to get rid of the issue but its not always so easy

I really hope someone knows whats going on here

only thing i have yet to do is wipe everything down in there

theres plants also in that mom room vegging in rockwool that seem to be doing fine and thriving

but those are in a hydro table and theres h202 in the reservior

im thinking i might try to water my soil plants with some h202 water and see what hapens then wipe everything down

thanks for the help
 
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TGT

Tom 'Green' Thumb
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Actuallty watering with H2O2 might kill what ever it is effecting your roots - thats a good idea. I would try that first. If nothing else it will supply more oxygen to the damaged roots. I have seen plants half dead come to life with using hydrogen peroxide.

TGT
 

Deft

Get two birds stoned at once
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I'm going to put everything outside for the beginning of summer, I can always clone later etc. That way I can clean everything real well and remove all soil/plants etc from the room for a while.

I've tried a lot of fresh soil of many kinds and the same thing happens every time. The roots start dying all of a sudden and healthy plants stop thriving and they stop taking up water and making over watering too easy, only a few ounces at a time to keep things from going totally dry.

When clones die the subsoil parts of stalks go moldy as hell, which makes me think there is some kind of mold problem even if its secondary.
 

SuperLarry

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mine look like mobudz.. just vegged about 10 days in a solo cup. they took off crazy since transplant into 1 gallons! healthy roots = healthy plants my friends. i see nothing but nice white roots being posted here.

 

Deft

Get two birds stoned at once
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Even my pumpkin and basil seedlings are affected with root death, pumpkins survive but basil never does.
 

TanzanianMagic

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Root Stimulator

Root Stimulator

To the original poster - I think that

1) Your soil is too dry (you should add grow rocks, perlite or fyto flakes to slightly higher than the drainage hole of the pots so your mix is free draining) and

2) You should foliar feed with a good root stimulator - Rhizotonic is a good one.

The root stimulator should make all the difference. You should also use a bloom stimulator when flowering.
 
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TanzanianMagic

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Root Problems

Root Problems

" Either I'm doing something grossly wrong or I have a pathogen like mold eating my roots alive, even dry. My roots are thin and brown with no hairs, my seedlings and clones all die even though I have had perfect 100% success when I didn't have the root problem... "

Maybe you changed the soil mix? One with more peat or sticks in it?

You should check your soil PH first, and check the ph of you water and nutrient solution. Between 6.5 and 7.0 seems to be ideal for soil. I like to adjust soil ph by watering with either one of the extremes. If it is closer to or below 6.5, I water with 7.0. If soil ph is 7.0 or higher, I water with 6.5 ph. That way, whatever adjustment happens is gentle and should be happening within the ideal ph range. Soil ph should be adjusted by adding lime to raise it, or adding more worm castings/potting soil/coco coir (and perlite to match) to bring it down.

Then, you should check if there is a good drainage layer (grow rocks, perlite, phyto flakes) in the pot that is at least half an inch higher than the top of the drainage holes. This is how you can achieve moist but not wet soil.

There is enough perlite in your soil mix. However, the mix is very dry. Roots don't just like dry soil. They like moist (and not wet) soil - which is where the drainage comes in.

Lastly and very importantly, you should use a root stimulator, which I prefer to administer by spraying it on the leaves so you don't have a buildup of nutrients in your soil. Rhizotonic (Canna) is very effective. The same for micronutrients (I'm using a kelp/seaweed solution right now, mainly to spray on).

Really lastly, I am using a soil mix with worm castings, and use Biobizz Grow because Biobizz's products have a really low EC, so even the higher concentrations are very light. And they stimulate soil activity, which makes the soil more porous and friendly to plants and worms.

So to sum up:

1) soil ph
2) drainage
3) root stimulator

I think the plant in the picture can be saved by changing the soil mix and giving the plant root stimulator.
 

TanzanianMagic

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Before you plant anything in soil, you should firts flush the soil with PH neutral water, until the EC of the runoff goes way down. If not, you gunk up the roots with dust, excess nutrients, lime and all kinds of fine particles. Compare the first runoff with the final runoff, and you'll see what I'm talking about. I think a way too high EC is what killled your roots.

(You should also first wash/flush grow rocks and perlite, and use a layer of growrocks at the bottom of your pot, high enough to cover the holes and keep them free of soil.)
 

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