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Weezard

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Decently? Yes, and then some.

Decently? Yes, and then some.

Not at first.
The first crop was spindly. Using 300 superbright, 10mm. Leds in an array. of 3:1 Red:Blue
Had them in soil .
Started some clones outdoors in the same soil but with tropical sun.
They were just as spindly! WTF?!


Aha! It was not lack of light!
Worth knowing.

Then I found Whiskey Tango's led grows and realized I was on the right track but would have to re-think the whole thing.
Big lesson? LED growing is different!

So, back to the drawing board and a LOT more reading.

4 generations of clones later, with a little help from e-friends,
I'm tickled to say that LEDs can and do produce fat, dense, (can't squeeze 'em) colas.
IF You pay attention to their needs.

Thanks KNNA n Sal, N Whiskey, n Stinky, n Weedhound n Physicsnole, n Opie Yutts, n British Hempire, n Puffzter, n Doughboy, n Onanon.

I now use one 5 gallon DWC (airstone only), per plant.
Dyna-grow n Dynabloom nutes at around 800 ppm and PH from 5.2 to 5.8.

Some day, forum willing, I'll be able to post pics.
Then I'll open up shop and start a thread, ya.

Meanwhile, I better quit jackin' this one, 'for the owner gets ticked.

Sorry 'bout that, brah.
"Patient tends to ramble":joint:
Weezard
 

micropro

Member
I really wanna see these pics.
To post on the board, u
"go advanced" >go into ur forum albums
enter the album and click the pic u wanna show
scroll to the bottom and it gives a url and bb code for the pic
copy the bb code to post pic, or url to post link

Ima go try to find ur album...
 
T

TrichyTrichy

I haven't seen any LED grows that are worth the money and effort. It's great research just needs more work. imo
 
Exact?
Ah dunno about exact.
Hmmm, I can tell you what works?

653 nm Red is center, but 660 nm. works quite well for photosynthesis and phytochrome conversion.
Plants will use 625 nm. as well, just not as efficiently.

435 - 470 nm. royal blue through blue will control internode length and flowering.

If you'd like to see what that looks like, lit up, you'll find snaps of my homebrewed lights in my profile album.

Did exactly what KNNA proposed a few posts back.
Did some research, built some lights, grew some plants.

Why bother?

Did I wanna see if application could approach what theory predicts?
For the selfless and noble advancement of our knowledge gestalt?
Cause I wear a tinfoil hat and have a masochistic bent?

Oh hell no!
None of the above.
The real reason is simple and pragmatic.
Here on da Island we pay 54 cents per KWH.:yoinks:
Hadda learn to yield more with less, ya?

Yours in frugality
Wee Zard

Show it to me please/.....how bout some more specs? what lamps? wattage? i have not seen an led grow that i couldnt outdo with cfl's
 

Weezard

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Bud pics

Bud pics

do u have any bud pics?

I just might.
Lemme look.

Ah found a few from last year.
They will not attach to the message.
Some nonsense about being 5.24 MB over my limit.
On a 465kb. jpeg!
No worry. I stuck 'em in my profile album.
Enjoy!

Weezard
 

Justa6655321

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i just got a UFO 90wt today. i'll post results. i'm looking for a little extra to help in the mother room. i know, i know, there is more "red" than blue but i'm going to see if it helps at all and if i find it's better for flowering i might move one of my t5 and use the ufo for flowering...
 

Tim_in_marin

New member
did you get them straight from China? I see about 20 companies all selling the exact same light. Are they all reselling the same light from some mystery factory or do they all create grow lights that look the same despite having different manufacturers ?
 

whiskeytango420

There is only one king, god picks em, hand pluckes
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OK...gotta chime in. Has anyone seen my LED grows? Cause other than a commercial level, I hit some good numbers, and DANK herb. If I wasnt trying to get the weight I am, I would have never went back to HID. I spent 2-3 years working with LEDs as well as Weezard.
I think either one of us will say, I am impressed with what we have gotten. 5-10 years from now, NO ONE will be growing with HIDs anymore....get on the wagon, or fall off.
good vibes
 

Tim_in_marin

New member
LumiGrow Light at 4 weeks into flowering

LumiGrow Light at 4 weeks into flowering

This is using 2 units, total of 500 watts.

Romulan, 4 weeks into flower. Good growth, penetration seems comparable to the HPS setup, which has the same clones.

So far so good.....
 

Tim_in_marin

New member
sorry, cannot seem to upload photo...

sorry, cannot seem to upload photo...

sorry all. I was trying to upload the photo, cannot seem to make it happen. I resized it so it is less than 1 mb and it is less than 800x800. any other ideas on what i could try?
 

DankHawk

Member
did you get them straight from China? I see about 20 companies all selling the exact same light. Are they all reselling the same light from some mystery factory or do they all create grow lights that look the same despite having different manufacturers ?


These are straight from HID HUT in FL. Not the china models. I paid 500 each for these. Never used em once. Still in the box.
 

DankHawk

Member
Hid hut seems to be full of shit. Tried to get a refund from them and they dont answer my emails. All the reviews on their website are phony, tried posting a real review and it got deleted, now it wont let me comment. HID HUT= scammers
 

Weezard

Hawaiian Inebriatti
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Too new? Who knew?

Too new? Who knew?

sorry all. I was trying to upload the photo, cannot seem to make it happen. I resized it so it is less than 1 mb and it is less than 800x800. any other ideas on what i could try?


Aloha T. in M.

Direct upload may have to wait untill you have more posts.

But, you might be allowed to create an album in your IC and then copy and paste from there.
Worth a try.

Regards,
Weezard
 

Weezard

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Fun from the future.

Fun from the future.

OK...gotta chime in. Has anyone seen my LED grows? Cause other than a commercial level, I hit some good numbers, and DANK herb. If I wasnt trying to get the weight I am, I would have never went back to HID. I spent 2-3 years working with LEDs as well as Weezard.
I think either one of us will say, I am impressed with what we have gotten. 5-10 years from now, NO ONE will be growing with HIDs anymore....get on the wagon, or fall off.
good vibes
:yeahthats

This years buds are twice the size.
Thanks for lending me the courage, mang.
Here's a li'l sumpin' to brighten your day.




Aloha,
Weeze
 

whiskeytango420

There is only one king, god picks em, hand pluckes
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Weez- Thanks for the hibiscus shot! She is a beauty...makes mine look like a home depot plant...lol

BHT- I respect you as a grower maing, and although they are not at 100% yet, 5-10 years fo sho. Check out some of these from my experiments last year. All under 5 Procyon 100W in a 2x8 closet. Yielded bout a half elbow. Not greatest yield, but NO heat, only 500w draw in entire room...If your growing for self, or you and a few friends, they are great. Not for bigger ops......yet. I have gotten some of the most resinous plants you have ever seen with LEDs too...Take a look at my Episode 3 log on c dot...the jawdrop strain I made then under those LEDs was PHENOMINAL. Too bad I lost it before I could see it under my 6k HPS now....lol
good vibes


bleh....try pics later...keep getting this message:

Failed to write file. Check disc quotas and permissions for the path: /data/web/icmag/icmag.com/www/ic/userimages/29/29520.picture
 

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