a question on clone growth

[Brother Bear]

when you take clones the lateral branching is always uneven right ?
well thats what i think
it was just pointed out to me that that is not always the case

being that this is kinda a argument now
not that i ever wanted it to be
but i just need more input thanks friends

 

[cocktail frank]

do you mean where the nodes push out the main stalk?
or do you mean how they will side branch and develop?
im kinda stoned.

if u meant the nodes, they grow uniform from seed, but will eventually stagger when mature.

 

[Brother Bear]

seed or clone growth ??

 

[Old Soul]

Tough call as it looks to me as a seed plant but maybe it was a clone that was taken from a plant that had not hit maturity yet.

 

[Weedninja]

It's called alternate phyllotaxy when the nodes stagger out. When you have 2 growth tips per node, that's called opposite phyllotaxy.

Alternate phyllotaxy when mature is mostly a sativa trait that most hybrids also carry. Your plant has opposite phyllotaxy when mature, so I'm guessing a heavy indica background is most likely.

 

[Brother Bear]

not my plant, and it's a satori
supposed to be mostly sativa if i am correct ?

so this COULD be from clone ??

 

[stoned teacher]

If the answer is yes, then I woulda been wrong too, Bear!

 

[Brother Bear]

well if i am wrong i owe someone an apology
cause i say its a seed plant

 

[Old Soul]

Doesn't look like a sativa to me but I think that it is possible it is a clone, although it does look like a seed plant to me. Like I said, tough call, that is in soil, correct?

 

[Brother Bear]

yeah its in FFOF

 

[Weedninja]

It definitely COULD be a clone. Did the nodes alternate at the top?

 

[Old Soul]

If you look at the top set of nodes that were cut off it looks like they are alternating slightly. I would say that if you took a clone from a seed plant that had not matured and flowered it immediately in soil then it is possible. How tall is it? Looks about 12 inches.

 

[Brother Bear]

not sure my friend, again its not my plant
i would guess yes, cause i have never seen different

 

[guineapig]

Is it just me, or is the plant in the background doing the same thing as the one in the foreground?

That is one nice looking plant for certain!!!! That cola is immense......

Is it possible that both those plants were from seed, but were chopped off at some point? The girth of the stalk of that plant seems quite large in proportion to the overall height of the plant.....i would expect a plant that short to have a lesser-diameter of a stalk.....

the picture is very interesting, though......is it possible that opposite phylotaxy is a genetic trait? I had always read that young plants start out with opposite phylotaxy and then develop alternate phylotaxy as they mature......

Great thread and topic!!!!! I would love to hear a botanist's opinion on this subject.....

kind regards from guineapig

 

[Brother Bear]

it is doing the same

I would love to hear a botanist's opinion on this subject.....

so would I my friend, so would I
cause i still have no idea, and now i kinda feel the fool for questioning this guy
well if i am wrong that is LOL

 

[Old Soul]

So it is supposed to be a clone, right? Is the one in the background supposed to be clone too?

I always thought they started alternating as a sign of maturity as well. I have never seen a plant that didn't eventually alternate nodes.

 

[InjectTruth]

I dont know Bear, Im with you though. Definitely looks like a seed plant to me.

However, it that is a clone, the grower did NOT know the sex before hand. That would make it a 'determining' clone (the clone that is clipped from a seed plant to tell what sex it is). This is the only way I can see this happening.

 

[Weedninja]

My vote is that it's a clone. Especially with the other plant like that.

 

[Brother Bear]

this is the satori's second run
perhaps first from cut

he has 40 plants from seed as well
and only 4 clones
by his word

my guess is the plant in the background is one of the forty

lots of guesses i know

 

[MeltingPOT]

Who's to say how long a certain strain takes to begin alternating pt?

Any pictures of the mother available? That is where you'll get your answer I presume. If she is opposite pt, than it would seemingly be genetic. If she has gone to alternating pt, than the cutting was taken before the biological "switch", and flowered.
Great question Brother...
MP