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Gold123

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http://www.hotshotbrand.com/ProductCategories/IndoorInsecticides/NoPestStrip/

The general consensus around here are these are generally pretty safe to use, however DONT use them the last 30 days of flowering or in an area of the house where people live... Basement is fine, Attic I would be a little more worried about because the fumes are heavier than air.

Although most said they only work on smaller mite problems....

These sound like a good idea, however if your grow room is vented how can the chemicals reach a high enough concentration to work? If the exhaust is off when the lights are off would that be enough time for it to build up each night?
 

thekingofNY

Cannasseur
These sound like a good idea, however if your grow room is vented how can the chemicals reach a high enough concentration to work? If the exhaust is off when the lights are off would that be enough time for it to build up each night?

the threads about the hot shot no pest strips say to leave them in, with ur exhaust off for the dark cycle if possible.

Art, I would get 2 of them, and hang them in their ASAP in the dark cycle with little ventilation on, let me dig up the threads i found on them...

Although technically, if u sprayed that avid thoroughly enough, it should be working... I know u wana really make sure u get rid of them permanently.

This link is great:
http://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?t=69392&highlight=hot+shot

Also Art, I can't remember if u were a member of overgrow, but all the grow faq's are archived, they have some great ones on mites, u can tell the good ones by how they were rated, go here:

http://www.drugs-forum.com/growfaq/GrowFAQ%20Basic%20Topics.htm

Hit Ctrl + F on ur keyboard, and type in anything grow related u could wana know, in this case "mite",

See at the top of this following article on Mites, how it was rated a 9.42/10 by 42 people? If u see one that is rated poorly, take that info with a grain of salt...

http://www.drugs-forum.com/growfaq/1552.htm

Notice the author of that article...
 
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irieeyes808

Member
Dude that is a cool little set up you have going on there. I like those strains especially the Bog stuff, hell it's all good.I have a problem though I have 28 in a 5x7x8 ft, with 1 600 watt you think I will be ok , well will have to thin out the males.
 

ARTofMAKINGfire

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irieeyes808 - After thinning out the males, you may be left with only 14 - 19 plants or so, more if you're lucky, but I think you should be good. My space 4 X 5.5 X 7 feet. I don't use maybe a foot. So in your case, just group them under the light as you see fit and be sure to trim off all the lower growth that doesn't get any light after you flower. The canopy will fill in and then the bottom will not produce and will be suceptable to powdery mildew (PM). PM sucks and can spread to bud in late flowering.

I'm battling a slight PM issue on a few lower leaves that shouldn't even be there. So I will probably just cut those branches off in a day or so. It will also increase airflow down low which will help to alieviate the problem.

What strain you growing?

King thanks again for the info. I think I'm going to go for it and go without the strips. I would only be able to hang them for a week or less anyway. I've found a few mites on lower leaves. Hopefully I'll get most of them out when I go through the lower growth. I think with a watchful eye I can keep them under control this run. Then it's an overhaul of a cleaning.

Along with a new spot! Can't wait! More lights!
 
S

ShawnyBoy

Hey ARt, hope ur probs disappear!!!
Lookn forward to seeing ur new location
all set up
Cheers
 

magiccannabus

Next Stop: Outer Space!
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Very high humidity(70-85%), combined with low temperatures(60-65F) are lethal to mites. Why mess with all those chemicals when you can just kill them the way nature does. Pull them all out and mist every single inch of them. Do the neem oil like others have said, and go in and clean out your grow space top to bottom. Don't leave one single scrap of plant matter in there. Then mist the plants one last time before drying them off with a fan(blowing hard on them, just short of being damaging). This will shake off eggs as it dries off the plant. The plant must be dry or water spots will cause lensing and burn your plants under that 600W light.

You can beat these things, just be diligent. There's absolutely no substitute for tender loving care, especially not when facing the borg. You've obviously got the green thumb enough to get this far, I am 100% confident you can beat the mites.
 

ARTofMAKINGfire

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magiccannabus - Thanks for the interest and advice! I would love to use natural conditions to eradicate them. However, I've been noticing several leaves on the lower growth with about square centimeter spots of powdery mildew (PM). I have been trying to lower RH to combat the PM. I know this makes conditions for a mite outbreak better, but what can one do? I can't let mildew grow on them. And a mite outbreak I can at least see coming (not overnight mold/mildew) and can at least combat it somewhat with a "fine tooth comb" approach. I can't see myself doing that with the PM, although after removing lower growth that isn't going to produce anyway, and doesn't get good air circulation hence the PM problem under there, I may take that same approach to the PM. Going through with SAFER's spray even in later flowering and hitting ONLY the fan leaves, then rinsing with pure water and allowing to fully dry before putting back into the cabinet. It surely will be a PITA, but at this point, with all that is riding on this grow, I have no other choice.

I know it's againt every rule in the book to allow one grow to "make or break you" but I unfortunatley find myslef in this position. Lucky for all you, I won't go out robbing and stealing. So when my legitimate job slows as it has, what else can I do? Alternate sources of income (legitimate) are going to be set up VERY soon. After this grow comes in and I break myself even!

I will beat the mites. That is not the question. It is when... There are still a few in the flowering cab on lower leaves. Not any on any buds...yet. Hopefully I can ride out these last few weeks without that happening!

Wish me luck!
 

Gold123

Member
If you still have them packed in there try a small oscillating fan at the bottom of the cabinet set it above the top of the pots and set it to a low speed. May help you.
The grunt work is what makes or breaks a grow.
 

magiccannabus

Next Stop: Outer Space!
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One tactic is to carefully cover the top of the soil with plastic, and then tape it down, so you have a poncho of sorts over the dirt.

Then you can lay the plant gently on it's side and use a spray bottle with filtered water in it to wash off the whole plant. Use a mist, but not too gentle. You want it to batter the buds a bit, but not too much. Once you get each plant cleaned up in this manner you can set them back up and dry them with a fan. This lets you soak the mites, wash off the PM, and then dry the plants again quickly. Now all you have left is mite eggs. If you coated the plant fully with water, all adult mites should be toast. Water is very deadly to mites, they just can't handle much over 70% RH. In nature rainstorms kill them off, and then the eggs hatch and the new generation works for a while till rain kills them too. They've survived a very long time this way.

Garlic powder also works if you put it on the soil. Helps reduce how many of them try to go in there and hide. Tobacco tea also works well, but don't drink it as it can kill you. Totally harmless to plants, lethal for a human to drink. If you can put the guts of a few rillos after making blunts into a sock, you can put that sock in a jar full of water, or better yet a saucepan. The tea that is formed after that can be used in place of that plain water for spraying them down.

Still try to drop the temps a bit for 3-4 days after you clean them off and kill all the adults.

Also I have to say I've never yet been able to hurt a plant with Safer 3-in-1 garden spray. It treats PM and mites, and it works really well. I have even sprayed it on seeds not even fully out of the pods to fight mold and PM, and it didn't harm them one bit. I'm sure there's a danger threshold, but it's pretty gentle stuff.
 

dontstepongrass

M.U.R.D.A. / FMB crew
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One tactic is to carefully cover the top of the soil with plastic, and then tape it down, so you have a poncho of sorts over the dirt.

sounds like my 1 hit fix veg method!

step 1: prep plants as stated above
step 2: have a clean plastic bucket (as deep as your plants are tall)
step 3: fill bucket with ro water with couple drops of dish soap in it.
step 4: take plant, tilt upside down slowly and slowly submerge into bucket.
step 5: let it sit submerged for half minute to 45 seconds and pull out slowly allowing it to drip off into bucket.

this method WILL destroy the borg at a rate of damn near 100% EVERYTIME

due to the dipping in water, is only good for veg tho
 
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dontstepongrass

M.U.R.D.A. / FMB crew
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also, any method of borg eradication that involves plain water as the active ingredient WILL NOT cause those little buggers to become resistant to it making them super mites
 

ARTofMAKINGfire

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Update

Update

Sorry for the delay. These photos are almost a week old.

The PM has re-surfaced slightly. I am going to be treating (carefully not to spray buds) with Safer 3 in 1. Then rinsing with water. Then drying. Thanks for the advice on that.

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Here is The White at week 3ish. By far the most covered so far... Little blurry, sorry.

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This is my C-13. 250 watts. This is the first day of flower. A mix of Dabney Blue, a "pot-O-Cheese" (5 clones in one pot), MSS, Blue J X Bogglegum, and some random BOG stuff.

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I can't wait until this grow is OVER already. I have never had this many issues in ONE grow.
 

Tonatiuh

its me Dave man open up the door...
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i hear ya art.it looks like they will be makin it to harvest though anyways.then you can do what ya gotta do to get it right.
still you will get some decent smoke and a ton of knowledge from what ya just went thru.
peace and good vibe =s.peace-T-
 

KUSHEATER1

Active member
i waited till I harvested and then I bombed the room took mylar down bombed again then painted the room bombed the room then waited 10days with box running empty befor I tried to grow again those bitches won't die you have to eradicate them .- no I thought I got them all, know you killed them all...
 

MeltingPOT

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Every run makes you a better grower ART....even if they aren't flawless...
The cuts under the 250 look proper, gonna be a hilarious mix of smells coming outta that tent...Cheesy Blue Skunk Goop Gum.Yummy :joint:
Keep it up, you got some good shit going.
MP
 
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