Cannabinoids Induce Cancer Cell Proliferation...

[devilgoob]

how the fuck are they tracking cancer cell proliferation in the lungs? is it in rats? is the pot schwag or dank? did they use just THC or other cannabinoids.

300 to 100 serum level, smoking serum level=850....plus I bet their dank aint even close to what we have ourselves.

 

[ROJO145]

Another thing to realize is that neither of these elements,D-Limonene or Flavonoids are exclusive to cannabis.
D-Limonene for one is the main odor constituent of citrus (plant family Rutaceae) and Flavonoids are compounds found in fruits, vegetables, and certain beverages that have diverse beneficial biochemical and antioxidant effects.A teaspoon of lemon peel has more d-l than a lb of herb.

 

[Weedhound]

Actually......I am one of THOSE statistics people are talking about. I tend to believe the opposite (as does the doctor who recommends mmj for me) that cannaboids DO indeed affect aptotos (sp?) or the life cycle of cells. Cancer is simply cells that do NOT die. That's what makes them cancer.......they keep growing and multiplying but don't die off like normal cell. Its now said that cannabis assists in normalizing the life cycle of cancer cells which helps them shrink. That's today's theory anyway.....tomorrow could change.

Long story short.......as a lung cancer patient I recommend not smoking the stuff at ALL. Use a vape and/or capsules or edibles etc. Why risk it?

One other thought here.....my oncologist (who is NOT my mmj doc) told me that he felt mmj could have a place in cancer therapy.........but won't be until it can be controlled and QUALITY regulated. Immune suppression is an extremely common side effect of many cancer treatments so ingesting crappy, pesticide or bug, mold covered weed that somebody who just cares about the $$$ grew are NOT going to help our cause. So my personal thought is that you aren't going to see a lot of improvements with mmj and cancer until (or if it ever) is legalized and regulated.

 

[ROJO145]

Elmanito, the heartburn article might be a life changer for me.
There're times when I have to pop anti acid medication like other people M&Ms.



Thank you.

Jonesy......heres one I know will help,next time heartburns gettin ya,take one teaspoon of vinegar!!!GONE,no heartburn,dont ask me how it works it just does.

 

[ROJO145]

Actually......I am one of THOSE statistics people are talking about. I tend to believe the opposite (as does the doctor who recommends mmj for me) that cannaboids DO indeed affect aptotos (sp?) or the life cycle of cells. Cancer is simply cells that do NOT die. That's what makes them cancer.......they keep growing and multiplying but don't die off like normal cell. Its now said that cannabis assists in normalizing the life cycle of cancer cells which helps them shrink. That's today's theory anyway.....tomorrow could change.

Long story short.......as a lung cancer patient I recommend not smoking the stuff at ALL. Use a vape and/or capsules or edibles etc. Why risk it?

One other thought here.....my oncologist (who is NOT my mmj doc) told me that he felt mmj could have a place in cancer therapy.........but won't be until it can be controlled and QUALITY regulated. Immune suppression is an extremely common side effect of many cancer treatments so ingesting crappy, pesticide or bug, mold covered weed that somebody who just cares about the $$$ grew are NOT going to help our cause. So my personal thought is that you aren't going to see a lot of improvements with mmj and cancer until (or if it ever) is legalized and regulated.

Hound,I feel for ya,cancer is a bitch.I have witnessed to many good people wither away from it,and anything that brings you relief is good.Heres a little sumtin for thought,I got it a couple years ago and it has some very interesting thoughts in it,its an ebook,totally safe,enjoy.
http://www.yourfilelink.com/get.php?fid=484171
Imma add it to my sig incase others wanna read it.

 

[Weedhound]

Uhhh....thats an AD for buying a domain name.

And just off the top.....I seriously doubt adding anything as acidic as vinegar to a health problem already created by too much acid is beneficial in ANY way. That just doesn't make any sense to me........sorry.

 

[Weedhound]

Oh....forgot to mention: I'm in complete remission right now and I personally feel (NO PROOF AT ALL) that mmj played a role in that. I eat and use capsules so ingest a LOT of weed on a daily basis. It certainly played no positive role in PREVENTING my cancer but I feel it may have been a boost or aid to my chemotherapy and perhaps why I have gotten such good results so far. My type of cancer (extensive small cell lung cancer) is a VERY tough one to beat, so I feel VERY lucky so far.

Just my personal 2 cents.

 

[NiteTiger]

Thank goodness I have discovered the wonder of tincture, because I'm absolutely positive I hit those macro levels, zipping right past the micro levels

 

[NiteTiger]

Oh, I discovered the tincture when I was specifically looking to relieve chronic pain. The most incredible pain relief.

 

[ROJO145]

Uhhh....thats an AD for buying a domain name.

And just off the top.....I seriously doubt adding anything as acidic as vinegar to a health problem already created by too much acid is beneficial in ANY way. That just doesn't make any sense to me........sorry.

LOL...Uhhmmmm....NO,its NOT!!Its a file hosting site where I personally uploaded a fucking book to try and help you,if you had the power to read a little,scroll down a little,and click the little download file button you could have read it,but I really dont care if ya do or dont
Part deux.......I again....really dont care if YOU believe taking a teaspoon of cider vinegar could help heartburn or not,but since you couldnt even grab a book I gave ya I better help you out again.
Apple cider vinegar and getting rid of heartburn? The two don't seem to go together. In fact, the thought of drinking even the smallest amount of vinegar when acid is backwashing into your throat and esophagus sounds counterproductive. Vinegar has a high acid content. You want to curb the acid. Why would you expect apple cider vinegar to do the job?
Apple cider vinegar is a folk remedy for getting rid of heartburn. In fact, it is the TOP folk remedy for heartburn and acid reflux.
Recipe for Relief
Taking apple cider vinegar for heartburn relief is quite simple. Simply stir 2 Tablespoons of apple cider vinegar into 1/2 cup of water or apple juice. Drink this immediately after each meal. If your problem is acid reflux, and you have just had a heavy meal, increase the amount of apple cider vinegar and decrease the amount of water or juice.
Another option is to mix a "cocktail" of the following:
* 1 quart apple juice
* 1 pint purple grape juice
* 1/2 cup apple cider vinegar
Drink 1/2 cup after every meal for heartburn relief.
Recipes that use apple cider vinegar for getting rid of heartburn vary greatly. This is because individual bodies also vary greatly. Try different amounts of apple cider vinegar until you find what works for you.
Some people have found that one brand or another works better for them. Again, the difference is due to the variations in physical makeup.
How Apple Cider Vinegar Remedies Heartburn
Little research has been done on the effectiveness of apple cider vinegar for heartburn relief. Consequently, it is difficult to say how apple cider vinegar remedies heartburn. It appears that the acid content in vinegar somehow tells the stomach to stop producing more acid. Perhaps, in that way, apple cider vinegar is like the prescription medications that "shut down" the stomach's acid pumps to stop heartburn.
"Nexium," for example, is said to relieve heartburn symptoms "by inhibiting the secretion of acid produced in the stomach." (from the Ask Doc Web)
It is possible that apple cider vinegar relieves heartburn symptoms in the same way.
Apples May Help as Much as Apple Cider Vinegar
Apple cider vinegar does not taste good to most people. Because of that, some have tried eating a few slices of apple after a meal, and have gotten rid of heartburn that way. Not every apple works for heartburn, though. Some stick to green apples such as Granny Smith. Others recommend Jonagold apples for heartburn relief. Some recommend eating a few slices of Jonagold apple with a coupe of dill pickle spears. It's apple cider vinegar for heartburn without resorting to basic vinegar.
Helpful Tip: If you can get over the taste of apple cider vinegar, you will find it one of the most important natural remedies in healing the body.


Go Fuckin Figure Huh
Whenever I have heartburn,it WORKS perfectly.

 

[Bruja64]

Thank you StormCrow for putting it in "laywoman's" terms! Good grief, my head started hurting reading the damn report.

Kudos again SC.

 

[texsativa]

how the fuck are they tracking cancer cell proliferation in the lungs? is it in rats? is the pot schwag or dank? did they use just THC or other cannabinoids.

300 to 100 serum level, smoking serum level=850....plus I bet their dank aint even close to what we have ourselves.

They aren't tracking proliferation, they are tracking activation of the tyrosine kinase, which is a receptor that stimulates growth when activated. They look at this receptor activation with a control, and compare with thc, other synthetic cannabinoids, and to the protein (EGF) that normally activates the tyrosine kinase receptor (EGFR epidermal growth factor receptor, yeah it actually makes sense), in the presence and absence of a tyrosine kinase inhibitor. The results show that they had tyrosine kinase activation even in their controls, which is not what they are wanting to show. From just looking at the expression patterns there was mild activation with control, moderate activation with cannabinoids, and extreme with EGF.

What they also show is that tyrosine kinase activity decreases with increasing levels of cannabinoids...which is why a concentrated thc tincture would probably very well synergistically aid and advance current cancer therapies. The other good thing is that thc can be taken in large quantities without death, which is not true for the majority of drugs currently on the market (namely aspirin, alcohol, etc)...that's huge.

But it is an interesting article

Uhhh....thats an AD for buying a domain name.

And just off the top.....I seriously doubt adding anything as acidic as vinegar to a health problem already created by too much acid is beneficial in ANY way. That just doesn't make any sense to me........sorry.

I read that the vinegar helps to close the lower esophageal sphincter, which helps to alleviate heartburn.

 

[Weedhound]

Well it's been a few years since I've been in the medical field and I do suffer from GERD (I take Prilosec for it at my doctors advice with fair results. Nexium actually worked the best for me but my insurance wouldn't cover that medication but will cover prilosec) and I must say i've never heard ANYTHING along the line of adding more acid to the stomach to cure an excess acid issue. But that could VERY easily just be me.......

 

[Weedhound]

Rojo, you will have to forgive me for not wanting to download unknown files from a stranger on a cannabis internet web site. Call me crazy......you sure wouldn't be the first.

I leave my heartburn treatment to my doctor.

 

[ROJO145]

Ya could always just scan it......but thats just me,far as the vinegar,your probly right there too,matter of fact,I wouldnt believe a word of the shit I spew either.After all,this is a pot site full of know nothing stoners rightGood luck with your ailments
Hey....did your doc give ya one of those cool purple pens,and the fridge magnet and notepad set?Maybe the nexium pen flashlight or coin purse?

 

[Weedhound]

Yes, I got a BUNCH of free samples. Did the stuff work for you? IT worked GREAT for me so I'm pissed my insurance company won't cover it but covers another med that is not quite as effective.

Good luck with all your endeavers as well! Don't let folks like me dissuade you....Rock on!! We're all here to learn!

 

[elmanito]

Another thing to realize is that neither of these elements,D-Limonene or Flavonoids are exclusive to cannabis.
D-Limonene for one is the main odor constituent of citrus (plant family Rutaceae) and Flavonoids are compounds found in fruits, vegetables, and certain beverages that have diverse beneficial biochemical and antioxidant effects.A teaspoon of lemon peel has more d-l than a lb of herb.

Try to realize it is the holistic activity of the herb, so this counts also for the flavonoids and essential oil of the herb whether it is in a small or a large concentration.
When you make a tea of the herb all the constituents of the herbs has a benefit on your health.

Namaste