Selling back to clubs?

[purrpullkush]

also, your numbers were off, how do you figure you are going to cut clones, have them rooted and truly get a 30 day veg, all within a 30 day period? Also...do you get 100% survival rate on your clones? I've seen alot of strains that clone easily and just as any that don't...wouldn't you almost certainly have to make some extras? You are also advocating running 6 plants per light...even with a thirty day veg, it is not easy to pull 1 pound per 1kw with 6 purple or OG Kush plants, let alone substantially more than 1 lb per.

 

[NiteTiger]

Did you even read my post man?

I specifically said I was being conservative on my numbers. As a matter of fact, I said that I can drop it at $4k a pound in under an hour. Tell me I grow bullshit man, WTF?

Conservative estimate, it means I was overstating costs and understating returns. If you've got some golden shit, which I have no doubt you do, being in a state where you have the option of running down the street to grab clones, great. You're getting more than $2500/lb, then you just made my argument for me.

Actually read for comprehension next time. I'm not going to sit here and debate this with you, because you're convinced you need to run from seed/no veg clones every time, and can't make decent money providing meds to clubs.

Even though there are apparently folks all over your state doing it day after day.

Tell you what, send me some cuts of that OG Kush, we'll see what I can do with it.

 

[NiteTiger]

also, your numbers were off, how do you figure you are going to cut clones, have them rooted and truly get a 30 day veg, all within a 30 day period? Also...do you get 100% survival rate on your clones? I've seen alot of strains that clone easily and just as any that don't...wouldn't you almost certainly have to make some extras? You are also advocating running 6 plants per light...even with a thirty day veg, it is not easy to pull 1 pound per 1kw with 6 purple or OG Kush plants, let alone substantially more than 1 lb per.

What the hell man, are you purposely not reading my posts? I never advocated doing 6 plants per light? I said 25, specifically.

No, I don't have a 100% success rate for my clones, and if I get too many, guess what, they go into the fire pit. Don't sit here and talk about your 100 count numbers then ridicule me for only running 6-8.

In my state, I do actually have to worry about state and local guys jumping my shit, not just the feds. I get over 10 plants, and I'm looking at much more time.

I'll admit to being off on the veg, you're right, you need about a week for them to root. Three weeks veg though, still plenty.

 

[purrpullkush]

Did you even read my post man?

I specifically said I was being conservative on my numbers. As a matter of fact, I said that I can drop it at $4k a pound in under an hour. Tell me I grow bullshit man, WTF?

Conservative estimate, it means I was overstating costs and understating returns. If you've got some golden shit, which I have no doubt you do, being in a state where you have the option of running down the street to grab clones, great. You're getting more than $2500/lb, then you just made my argument for me.

Actually read for comprehension next time. I'm not going to sit here and debate this with you, because you're convinced you need to run from seed/no veg clones every time, and can't make decent money providing meds to clubs.

Even though there are apparently folks all over your state doing it day after day.

Tell you what, send me some cuts of that OG Kush, we'll see what I can do with it.

Most of the people all over my state making a bunch of money off of this shit are not staying below 100 plants, let alone actually staying below local senate bill 420 guidelines which is 6 flowering plants OR 12 vegging plants. A person can always be a caregiver for other patients but even if I am the primary caregiver for 17 patients and legal with my 102 plants under california law, I am subject to federal sentencing guidelines if the locals decide to turn the case over to the feds which they seem to do somewhat unpredictably. If you have ever been wrapped up in the legal system before, then you probably understand where I am coming from, if not I can see how you might not get it. I don'[t want to go to jail for providing medicine to sick people.

 

[purrpullkush]

What the hell man, are you purposely not reading my posts? I never advocated doing 6 plants per light? I said 25, specifically.

No, I don't have a 100% success rate for my clones, and if I get too many, guess what, they go into the fire pit. Don't sit here and talk about your 100 count numbers then ridicule me for only running 6-8.

In my state, I do actually have to worry about state and local guys jumping my shit, not just the feds. I get over 10 plants, and I'm looking at much more time.

I'll admit to being off on the veg, you're right, you need about a week for them to root. Three weeks veg though, still plenty.

you said 25 plants per room, 4 lights per room, you are right, only 3 out of the 4 lights would have 6 plants, one would only have 5 plants.

it doesnt matter if you throw the extras away at some point. The point is to NEVER be over the limit, not just "most of the time".

Then you should be even more worried than I am.

Three weeks veg is not enough time to get a good yield with a good strain like GDP or Kush with 6 or less plants per light, I'd go as far as to say you couldn't pull 1 lb per light with that scenario.

I am being realistic about the numbers, you are taking a pretty lax approach to your calculations.

 

[NiteTiger]

Damn, we should take this to chat we're posting so fast

Look man, I'm not trying to run you down, really. I certainly don't want to see anybody go to jail for growing our favorite plant. However, to say a medical grow can only be run from no veg clone is wildly inaccurate. If you're looking for consistent stream of survivable income by providing meds, then you need to go perpetual. It's simple as that. And it certainly can be done.

I wish I was in a situation like yours, where I could do it and show you, but I'm not, so this is all just a theoretical exercise for me. But considering I'll go to jail for up to 6 years for my 10 little plants, I can certainly understand your reluctance. Plus, I have been in the system, and you're right, noone who's been there wants to go back.

We may just have to agree to disagree on this one. If I ever get out to Cali, I'll burn one with ya man, I'm dying to try this OG Kush I've been hearing so much about

 

[NiteTiger]

you said 25 plants per room, 4 lights per room, you are right, only 3 out of the 4 lights would have 6 plants, one would only have 5 plants.

it doesnt matter if you throw the extras away at some point. The point is to NEVER be over the limit, not just "most of the time".

Then you should be even more worried than I am.

Three weeks veg is not enough time to get a good yield with a good strain like GDP or Kush with 6 or less plants per light, I'd go as far as to say you couldn't pull 1 lb per light with that scenario.

I am being realistic about the numbers, you are taking a pretty lax approach to your calculations.

A lax approach, yes, but erring on the side of caution. Like, for instance, assuming you could only get $2500 per. I have no doubt you're getting more.

 

[purrpullkush]

fair enough, I think we got all the information out there...we'll let the people decide what to believe, lol good game.

 

[NiteTiger]

fair enough, I think we got all the information out there...we'll let the people decide what to believe, lol good game.

Yes indeed, I think we laid it all out, to say the least

Also, I'd like to say I appreciate your approach. Too many people here think that you can't disagree with people without attacking and spewing hate. Glad to see there are still folks who can agree to disagree, and still realize we all have the same goal.

PazVerdeRadical is another. You should see some of the discussions we've had on politics. You'd think that we'd rip each others throats out if we ever met, but I respect him, and I think he respects me, even if we can't agree.

Great convos are often with those who don't agree. After all, if we all agreed on everything, it's be pretty fucking boring around here

 

[greengorillaz]

damn

damn

very entertaining thread, thanks!

 

[Thundurkel]

Nice argument I have a similar one with my buddy cuz I run perpetual CFL cabs and he runs a room with 2 1K HPS with 32 plants of Purple Kush or Mendo Purple and he gets 1lb per light and I'm on a mission to beat his 2lbs every 2 months cuz I like harvesting each week! I have noticed that with my High Density SOG I am able to always get the 7g per cut that I go for no matter the strain but his results change dramatically with different strains but yea nobody wants to go to jail for growing a plant!!!

 

[highbrid]

After reading this thread (for the third time) I really need to say that you guys are very cool and relaxed people with an outstanding look on life. Not only are you "pot smart" you reek of intelligence on topics that needs to be touched outside of mmj, also purp and nite are right, its ok to agree to disagree something that never really happened on OG. And yes its hard to pull elbows from any purp (cali ones) or OGs with 1kw.....one grows not so huge buds and streches and the other dont really strech and needs a hell of a veg time.... From all the time I have spent on OG...CC and IC...I learned everyone is right, due to their own situations. peace

 

[theLION]

well put poeple need relief

 

[purrpullkush]

for real

 

[SemperAltus]

good too know guys great info, invalauble to future collective owners

 

[paulobaca]

So I guess you can say to expect/demand about 50% of the total revenue that they are projected to make.

I was at one dispen NWLA that only carries expensive high quality flowers, talking to the owner. He said they paid $3,000 a pound even though they charged $70 an 1/8th.

He also said growers should pull several pounds off EACH PLANT.

That pretty much drove me away from the clubs, but what you guys are saying is much more reasonable,50%.

 

[SemperAltus]

So I guess you can say to expect/demand about 50% of the total revenue that they are projected to make.

I was at one dispen, on Pico blvd. AWLA that only carries expensive high quality flowers, talking to the owner. He said they paid $3,000 a pound even though they charged $70 an 1/8th.

He also said growers should pull several pounds off EACH PLANT.

That pretty much drove me away from the clubs, but what you guys are saying is much more reasonable,50%.

ya the problem is that 7- buck 8ths should never go down even if your paying 5gs. but more people are in to grab the bank and try to not get popped.... sadly their are people who take advandtage of patients. real patients that have gnar problems...

 

[Pirate]

He also said growers should pull several pounds off EACH PLANT.

Then he don't know crap.

I would say that 99% of all MJ at a club is indoor hydro. I wish to God I could pull #s per plant indoors. More like a 1/2 oz per plant in a SOG.

 

[BiG H3rB Tr3E]

Then he don't know crap.

I would say that 99% of all MJ at a club is indoor hydro. I wish to God I could pull #s per plant indoors. More like a 1/2 oz per plant in a SOG.

actually alot of is it greenhouse. most people just cant tell the diff......

 

[Greyskull]

actually alot of is it greenhouse. most people just cant tell the diff......

CORRECT! It doesn't take a good eye or nose to detect, either...

I was at one dispen, on Pico blvd. AWLA that only carries expensive high quality flowers, talking to the owner. He said they paid $3,000 a pound even though they charged $70 an 1/8th.

He also said growers should pull several pounds off EACH PLANT.

I'd love to see what they offer for $70/3.5g if they are only paying $3gs.... they are either buying in EXTREME bulk (25eLBows + at a time) or its all outdoor/greenhouse goods brought down from the triangle. or really crappy indoor.

sounds a lot like highway 420 pharmacy off of the 5... nice place to avoid.