Earliest Finishing Landrace Sativas

[Guest]

Was wondering what some of the earliest finishing landrace sativas are Ace/Canna Biogen work with ?

Also i understand Lesotho is one of the faster ones,, will these be released in pure form by CannaBioGen in the future or any other fast highland africans ?

Wasn't their a release one time of a african strain from a highland region in southern tanzania if i recall ?

Would love to get my hands on some pure landrace sats that @ 30 deg latitude would finish by the last week of September.



Big Thanks

 

[dubi]

Good day LittleBigMan,

Lebanese and moroccan strains are probably the fastest landrace sativas we have found but it's hard to find consistency and quality with these kind of landraces, there are lot of hermies and auto flowering traits as well.

CBG's Leshoto is a very interesting highland sativa, it grows short, fast, robust, with good potency and it's consistent for many traits. Leshoto has not been a main priority latest years so i don think there's enough stock fresh for a commercial release. Not sure it will be released in the future, it's a CBG's line so it's charlie's decission.

I remember african seeds distributing 'tanzanian magic' which was suposedly a 8 week flowering pure sativa. I have never grown or smoked her so i can not comment much about it.

Alex/mano negra had a great ethiopian/malawi hybrid which sadly is probably lost now. It grew small and matured very fast for a sat, finishing late september. It had a lovely ethiopian taste and a very strong sativa potency.

 

[Smokey#1]

Damn, that "tanzanian magic" sounds cool. But who woulndt want a fast finishing Sativa?

 

[Stone Locust]

I remember a thread, maybe here on icmag, where someone said he/she grew the tanzanian magic. He/she said it was a typically longflowering sativa, unlike the description.

Peace

Edit: it was Thule in these threads http://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?t=57939&highlight=tanzanian+magic
http://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?t=90059&highlight=tanzanian+magic

 

[Guest]

Hey charlie & dubi, i would imagine theres some central/northern Mexican lines that finish late September also ?

 

[Goyakla]

get some seeds from DK... Leb 27.. aka Lebanes Hash sativa.. grown in DK for around 27-30 years.. she is damn fast here ... mold resistant and has wonderfulll colours... look at the danish growr forum here.. good luck

 

[goldking]

I did some tanz magic some time ago, in the high hopes of getting a outdoor auto flower to grow Under the 24/7 Midnight Sun,

they presexed in 4-6weeks, the males matured under 24/7 sunshine, but the females grew to 3'+- and stopped? they just stopped growing ??, they didn,t grow another inch in 157 days ??

maybe they have some use as a auto height controled strain??

i brought them indoors and finished them under 12/12

i did IB a male with a female and made a sack of TM kerns.

i,ll try them again someday if i,m really bored.

its -36f outdoors here, boreing as Hell. it must be time to try some more TMs hehe

stay warm GK

 

[dubi]

Good day all and happy New Year! :smile:

I remember a thread, maybe here on icmag, where someone said he/she grew the tanzanian magic. He/she said it was a typically longflowering sativa, unlike the description.

Peace

Sure, i was skeptic too. A pure sativa would rarely have such a short flowering time coming from this tropical latitude. Tanzania is a very tropical country.

There are many auto flowering african sativas, even auto long flowering african sativas like zamal or malawis. The shorter non auto flowering tropical african sativa we have found would be bangi congolese. You can also find 'short' flowering sativas in other african latitudes like ethiopia, leshoto, south africa ...

 

[dubi]

Hey charlie & dubi, i would imagine theres some central/northern Mexican lines that finish late September also ?

Old Mexican sativas are excellent to breed with. They usually have med flowering times, good branchig, short internode distance, they react also faster to flowering than other more tropical sats. Mexican sats are easier to adapt to colder climates than other sativas. Here in Spain they work great in most places, even in pure form. Mexican sativas are interesting plants to cross with other long flowering sats.

PD: Pure mexican sativas would rarely finish late sept, earliest we have work with finish around the first 2 weeks of October, usually mid October. Other mexican take a little bit more of time, finishing early November.

 

[dubi]

get some seeds from DK... Leb 27.. aka Lebanes Hash sativa.. grown in DK for around 27-30 years.. she is damn fast here ... mold resistant and has wonderfulll colours... look at the danish growr forum here.. good luck

Good day Goyakla,

We grow leb27 2 seasons ago, you can find our grow report at esbe's lines thread.

We found the lebanese very early flowering (indeed auto flowering) and outdoor resistant. But it lacked of resins, potency and terpene quality, at least grown in our hot mediterranean climate.

 

[dubi]

I did some tanz magic some time ago, in the high hopes of getting a outdoor auto flower to grow Under the 24/7 Midnight Sun,

they presexed in 4-6weeks, the males matured under 24/7 sunshine, but the females grew to 3'+- and stopped? they just stopped growing ??, they didn,t grow another inch in 157 days ??

maybe they have some use as a auto height controled strain??

i brought them indoors and finished them under 12/12

i did IB a male with a female and made a sack of TM kerns.

i,ll try them again someday if i,m really bored.

its -36f outdoors here, boreing as Hell. it must be time to try some more TMs hehe

stay warm GK

Thanks for share your experience goldking,

How was the Tanzanian magic smoke? Did you find any valuable traits or expressions to work with?

 

[indifferent]

I've seen phenos of Ethiopian Highland finish in 9 weeks. Transkei and Ciskei sativas can also be in the 8-10 week range. Nigerian as offered by reeferman was very fast too, about 9 weeks and would flower if given less than 19 hours of light per day.

Zamal will indeed autoflower, I lost my prized Zamal mother because she refused to remain in veg after a couple of years.

 

[elmanito]

The Oaxacan Mexican strain i have finish early as this count also for the Sativa's Leb27 & OLdfarmer Nepal from Denmark.

Namaste

 

[Limeygreen]

That Curandero (second Pic) looks simply delicous, is that the Leb27?

 

[dubi]

The Oaxacan Mexican strain i have finish early as this count also for the Sativa's Leb27 & OLdfarmer Nepal from Denmark.

Namaste

Thanks for let us know manito :smile: Does the mexican finish around late Sept or Oct? You have a lovely outdoor garden

 

[elmanito]

The Oaxacan strain finish late Sept/begin Oct and is very resistant against molds.Interesting strain for crossings in the future!!

Namaste

 

[lasko]

My Oaxacans finished outdoor end october at 45 N.
I recived some herbaria ciskai bushman seeds, some of the fastest sativas. I will let you know soon if they realy finish in 47 days indoor and when outdoor

peace

 

[elmanito]

That Curandero (second Pic) looks simply delicous, is that the Leb27?

No, thats the Oaxacan also but turned purple due to the cold weather.

 

[levant]

Nice thread, what about short flowering Nepalese sat's?
I would of thought they would potentially be earlier and particularly more mould resistant than S. Africans judging by climate.

Also I wonder if there are any strains grown on or around mt kilimanjaro in Kenya? Edit: Tanzania.
That I'd like to see!

Elmanito - the Oaxacan looks lovely, I'm amazed it is so early, is it straight from Mexico?
I'l be sprouting some leb27 soon!

Edit - Hi Dubi, what would you suggest your earliest strain is best for a cold climate?

 

[Stone Locust]

Hey levant
World of seeds' kilimanjaro is supposed to be a kilimanjaro sativa.
User "bob jones" on this site grew it. He said it was pretty early, old-school high and a 7 for potency. I would like to see more grow reports on it, or just have to try it myself .