The positives/negatives of organic hydro?

[Whatever]

ahh come on W,,, you know that wasnt aime at you brotha,,,


we all know the organic growers im talking about,,, the "holier than thou" my weed is better than your weed,, yada fucking yada yada yada,,,

but yeh its funy to hear alot of people preach about organics while sitting in the drive thru at mcdonalds.

wise man once told me,,, you have to learn,, BEFORE you can preach to gain the knowledge that you teach

be well. --BhT

LOL...I knew you weren't but just had to mess with ya! I totally her ya about the 'holier than thou' shit...totally. I never heard the McDonalds thing but did cross paths with someone who was basically the same way but ate at Taco Bell. Or then there's those peeps that rage about organic soil weed and smoke commercial ciggys and not something like American Spirit and I just shake my head. Live your philosophy or shut the fuck up. I got a friend that grew organic and ate organic so when he talked about organic grown weed his words carried weight for me and was not just some hypocritical BS.

 

[doubledotdank]

organic vs. chem

organic vs. chem

In my eyes, the organic vs chem argument only should make a difference to those who are eating the weed. Does it really matter when burning the stuff, what it was made of? I know it may taste different, but i'm pretty sure that the health differences are negligible. Smoking anything is bad for you.

 

[C21H30O2]

In my eyes, the organic vs chem argument only should make a difference to those who are eating the weed. Does it really matter when burning the stuff, what it was made of? I know it may taste different, but i'm pretty sure that the health differences are negligible. Smoking anything is bad for you.

that is not a completely factual statement. When you burn something chemicals in whatever you are burning are vaporized. So that means if there are harmful chemicals in the bud or heavy metals there is a possibility of inhaling them along with the smoke. If it were all smoke you wouldn't get high. on top of this cannabis is filled with antioxidants, anticarcinogens and anti-inflammatory agents which offsets much of the damage cause by smoke. however if a given sample of bud has a higher amount of carcinogens in it (noxious chemicals) then of course you will need more antioxidants, anticocinogens and anti-inflammatory agents. you can of course flush but if I have to flush my weed before I can smoke it that tells me I am putting something in it that shouldn't be in it. But this is just how I view it.

 

[doubledotdank]

that is not a completely factual statement. When you burn something chemicals in whatever you are burning are vaporized. So that means if there are harmful chemicals in the bud or heavy metals there is a possibility of inhaling them along with the smoke. If it were all smoke you wouldn't get high. on top of this cannabis is filled with antioxidants, anticarcinogens and anti-inflammatory agents which offsets much of the damage cause by smoke. however if a given sample of bud has a higher amount of carcinogens in it (noxious chemicals) then of course you will need more antioxidants, anticocinogens and anti-inflammatory agents. you can of course flush but if I have to flush my weed before I can smoke it that tells me I am putting something in it that shouldn't be in it. But this is just how I view it.

Right on...I'm not a scientist, but I have a good friend who is a microbiologist, oncologist, and hemp activist. He doesn't smoke, only eats or vaporizes. Also, he only grows and eats organically. We were having the organic/ chem argument, and I asked him if it even mattered if we were smoking the stuff. He got that screwface look, and admitted that smoking pretty much ruined many of the health benefits of the herb...guess thats why he doesn't smoke. That being said, I prefer organic herb over chem anyday. However, I have tried many tasting buds grown with gh refined mineral nutes. Also, I have had some nasty tasting miracle grow exhaust pipe herb too. (I'm here to learn..not teach) thanks for letting me participate.

 

[libby]

I prefer organic herb over chem anyday



I had this argument many yrs ago,but with food, and had your views,then i was convinced that to the plant, food is food, whatever form it came in.

The plant does not know the difference if it's eating a chemical feed or an organic feed, how can it? How can you tell the difference when eating food grown chem/organic, it's been tested, no difference.

It may taste better either way, but that's down to genetics.

Does feel better though, when it's organic, (even if youv'e been conned)

 

[doubledotdank]

^^guess you didnt really read what i wrote...

 

[Dee9]

My chemical fertilizer packet indicates only 12 different chemicals making up the balanced mix.
It works, and so does my organic nutrients. Both work if you do them right.

The organic nutrients often do not have all 12 essencial nutirents in a balanced compete ratio. Hence the mixing of this and that...But having said that, organic nutrients will often contain enzymes, amino acids, vitamins, hormones and additional trace elements, often not present in 'complete' chemical fertilizers.

And I think it may be these 'extras' contributing to the taste.

Chemical nutrients are processed, leaving a huge carbon footprint, but organic ferilizers also require some kind of processing, never mind the bottle you are buying it in... unless you somehow manage to make your own organic hydro fertilizer from scratch (plants and poop) and brew it in a ceramic pot you made yourself... ...

...under a full moon...

...wearing only natural fibers...

.........

;-)

 

[doogleef]

Organic DOES NOT MEAN BETTER! It simply means "sourced from natural materials" like guano. As previously stated organics take micro-bio to break them down and make them available where chem ferts are immediatly available.
To really get into the "this tastes better than that" theory you have to look at what aplant is made of. PLants are not made of nutrients. They are made of carbon. Not N P or K. All the nutes do is give the plant the fuel to grow.
CO2 in the air and O2 in the roots are for more important IMHO
It is a lot easier to burn your plants with chem ferts but that is they only downside I see.

 

[tintala]

DUPONT MAKES ALOT OF THE CHEMICAL FERTS OUT THERE< just be aware. Dupont has made the world a horrible , deathly place. for example: a documentary:
"I WANT MY FATHER BACK" part 1 and 2. Shows INDIAN farmers (IN INDIA) committing suicide... coz??? DUPONTS idea of putting fertilizers in cotton seeds. makes for a smaller yield

PLEASE WATHC IT:
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-6063387598655207801

 

[doogleef]

Holy off-topic, Batman!

The question was organic vs chem in growing hydro. A diatribe about a corporate chemical giant is irrelevant.

 

[movingtocally]

Very informative, thanks.

 

[tintala]

Holy off-topic, Batman!

The question was organic vs chem in growing hydro. A diatribe about a corporate chemical giant is irrelevant.

DOOGLEEF: well holy ontopic batman, your too righteous to even recognize the context of my post freako, DUPONT DOES make most of the fertilizer that goes ANYWHERE< fyi: organic vs HYDRO, if you had to decide, remember where the chemicals come from , and other reasons to consider NOT using chemcs and use organic. video: I WANT MY FATHER BACK asshole. so fuck off!

 

[C21H30O2]

Organic DOES NOT MEAN BETTER! It simply means "sourced from natural materials" like guano. As previously stated organics take micro-bio to break them down and make them available where chem ferts are immediatly available.
To really get into the "this tastes better than that" theory you have to look at what aplant is made of. PLants are not made of nutrients. They are made of carbon. Not N P or K. All the nutes do is give the plant the fuel to grow.
CO2 in the air and O2 in the roots are for more important IMHO
It is a lot easier to burn your plants with chem ferts but that is they only downside I see.

npk is not fuel the plant is made out of these substances along with carbon. by your reasoning the plant is just one big carbon molecule the processes npk for fuel... this is not what occurs at all. the fuel for biochemical reactions comes in the form of carbohydrates which are produced by the plant from CO2 and water. the npk and all other substance used by the plant (cal, mag, etc) facilitate the production of carbohydrates along with many other processes.

 

[tintala]

better watch out doogleef knows all and has a PH in botany / cannabis growing

better watch out doogleef knows all and has a PH in botany / cannabis growing

From harvard. lol. don't say anything a little vague though because this moron will fuck you up! he spews rhetorical diatribes about shit he doesn't even know about. I love organic weed vs gh fed cannabis.

 

[jtk707]

Cant we all just smoke the bong i mean get along

 

[nag-champa]

can anyone foresee a problem by growing organically, but adding a chemical pk booster, flushing the soil with water for a week.
and then reusing the soil, to feed with a light tea thereafter, probably mix in some poops
haha, i said poops